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   am I ever supposed to knock this down? b/c no matter how long I try, I can't

You don't knock them down using Hannah directly.

It is impossible to knock down using Hannah only.

You're going to have to find something else to knock them down with then, aren't you? Use the map generator - it really helps...

I can't get ANYWHERE

I beat it! It's cool how you can beat it with or without the water, even if that was unintentional. lol But the overall puzzle here is pretty good and like so many other puzzle caves this week I had to use the map generator to beat it, but that's not really a bad thing.

these types of caves are very satisfying to beat.

Thanks for the rate.

I think a walkthrough is very much in order as it seems that quite a few people have played this and haven't progressed enough to be able to give feedback. I'm eagerly awaiting the opinions of the veterans - whether it's good or bad...

I've played this cave for a solid fifteen minutes, I think, and have gotten relatively far. Then I kept dying trying to hit that damn underwater arrow crate, so I took a break. I shall return to it, though. With a vengeance!

lol I died there too, but it's really not that hard as long as you're not directly over it....

Maybe the name should have been 2084, because thats probably a better estimate of when I will finish it (without help). I got to the top and after several tries managed to do the speed trap with the boulder, but now I am just as stuck as before.

Done!

So that was an enjoyable cave; it kept me hooked long enough to beat it, anyway. The best part of this cave, in my opinion, was that it was all over the place. I really love it when backtracking is used, y'see, and so jumping from one part of the cave to other to solve the puzzles was great.

However, there were some annoying bits as well. The jump you have to make at the right side of the map (from the boulder to the terrain) can be a bit too tricky to pull off since that's the maximum distance Hannah can jump and you're screwed if you miss. I want to complain about the secret area to the left of the cave because I was stumped trying to figure out how to get to the last few treasures, but I guess it's my fault for not noticing it on the map generator. Still, a normal passage would have been nice, or if you used terrain 4 or something... Bah, nevermind.

But those things aside, it was a great cave and, again, the fact that it all ties together compliments the work you put into designing it. And even though I absolutely despise red herrings, especially when they're used in HatPC levels, the ones here weren't too bad. (Especially since it's possible with the water).

Thanks for the feedback! I'm glad the loopiness of the cave satisfies you. I've amended the two areas that you disliked - hopefully making the cave a tad more playable.

I'm still looking for more feedback!

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I did look at this cave. But I didn't get very far in it... man I suck with these caves. I'll look at it again later, maybe? I dunno. I have work starting at 7:30 AM tomorrow, and I'm doing things later today, so I don't have much time >_<

Come on, this can do better than two votes - if Awesome Cave 3000 can get three, this one can (not that there's any competition between anyone ). I'm looking at isa, quirvy and shos here...

This reminds me very much of pretty much every cave I've made: scrounging and begging for more recognition for my creation and the effort I put into it. I think Quirvy has experienced this same frustration. Oh, for a bigger community...

I think everyone else just can't be your cave. And I'm not sure if the walkthrough helped people look at your cave....

Livio, I cannot argue with that, I am contrary to popular belief not 1984.

Will write a more serious comment on this cave soon.

I agree with Livio, the cave seems cool, but I can't really figure it out and the walkthrough is too fast to help me.

Wasn't 1984 some book about a Big Brother government?

kay; I tried playing, and geez, i'm lost. so many things aaargh!!!

walkthrough exists, tho. so....i can rate this thing. very nice design; few traps that haven't been used much; and some other very nice traps. i wonder if the cave is possible in another way, with the water...

You're right, Jell, it is about a Big Brother government that manipulates the media to an even more profound degree than the Nazis - it's a good story, but it always depresses me when I read it.

Thanks very much for the rate, shos - according to Livio, it can be beaten by water.

I'm uploading a normal speed walkthrough for those who were confused by the 'entertaining' one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxsZYJgHkmc

I think it's good, and deserves the 5, that vid. livio, why not upload YOUR walkthrgouh for this cave, with the water?

I think it's a cool idea, possibly, to have caves beaten in different ways, while not meant to be multiple-ways-caves. i usually debug my caves to prevent cheating or doing anything unplanned, but other caves...

pretty challenging puzzle