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This is something I should have made a long time ago. You know, back when I still made caves and it'd actually be useful to me. Anyway, I posted the link a little below, and I'd appreciate it if you all'd download it, play around with it, and tell me what you think. I don't want you guys to mention any potential new features just yet, I just want to know if you can find any bugs, or anything that doesn't function in the way that you would perhaps expect it to.

http://www.interguild.org/hatpc/cavemaker.zip (EDIT: You cannot trust this link to be remotely up-to-date.)
original link:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BNp_r4-qIIZ8QuNE1wRw6Vi9HT526aDL/view

Due to a forum bug, you'll probably have to copy that and paste it into your address bar.

To run that, you'll first have to extract that all into the same folder. If you can't extract zip files, download WinRAR: http://www.win-rar.com/download.html

You'll also need to make sure you have the latest version of Java: http://www.java.com

Inside, there's a file named cavemaker.bat, which you will double-click on the run the program. A cmd window will pop up and hang around with you the whole time as you use the cavemaker. Close it, and you close the cavemaker with it, so, just ignore it for now. If it comes up and then just goes away, then you (probably) have not, either, followed these steps properly, or you do not have the latest version of java on your computer. I'm working on a way to make it stand-alone, but for now this will suffice. Also, you can make a short-cut of the .bat file (right-click create shortcut, probably) and then you can paste that into wherever you'd like to be able to open the cavemaker from. Also note that, since this was coded in java, it should be able to run on systems other than Windows. I haven't seen fungus in a while, but if you see him, direct him here so I can get that straightened out. We might have to jump through a few hoops, but it should be able to run on his mac. Update: The cavemaker program is now in a jar file. You should be able to run it by double clicking but, if not, set java as the default program from opening jar files. The .bat is still there if needed.

If you have Windows 7, check out this short topic for help: http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/topic.php?id=5124

I'm going to attempt to list some of the changes that I've made from the Neopets version. Here's what I could think of, in no particular order:

Spoiler: ''List of Changes from the Neopets Version''

So yeah, try it out, and if there's anything that gets on your nerves, let me know I'll try making changes to it. I'll work on adding new features at an unspecified point in the future. For now, I'd like to ensure that this is working properly and there's nothing about it that people just hate to death.

Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 1''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 2''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 3''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 4''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 5''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 6''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 7''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 8''


Spoiler: ''Changes in Update 9 (Current Version)''
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That is a fake tile. CSD renamed it for whatever reason.
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Catt, That's what Ced and all those who can't get it to work have been doing. I was in the same situation as Ced. However, I downloaded the lastest version of java and it worked. I would recommend for you to do that, Ced.


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I want this link to be featured in the sidebar.
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So yeah, I figure I should mention that you need the newest version of java in order to run this program. If you had java 5, maybe it could work but I doubt it. It'd probably compile in java 5, though.

Also, let's not jump the gun and give me a like in the sidebar just yet. A link to this thread in the download cavemaker page, maybe, but I don't feel ready to make this some sort of major site feature, yet...
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'12cattatron10' said:
Click the cavemaker program. It has a weird wheel shape on it. That opens the Cavemaker.
I did click that, and it opens a black window.
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yeah, this isn't even done yet.
'csd' said:
Nobody notice that the horizontal scroll-wheel won't work? It really bugs me. It's a bug in java. If you make the cave so short that there's no vertical scrollbar, you'll scroll horizontally using the vertical scroll-wheel.
yeah that's super annoying. I forgot to mention that. I'm glad how the scrolling isn't based on the tile, though. I never got used to that, so I don't know how anyone would ever want that.

hey, maybe while we're making the new game, you can make a few changes so that it can work with it. that way we'll have a level maker to help us make levels with, since I wouldn't have one made by that time.
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and you should download the latest version of java cedric.
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I already did that, but it still doesn't work.
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Detailed information of what you're doing then, please.
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I still have yet to try this new version. Maybe I'll redownload it when csd changes the bg color. or when HATPC stops freezing my computer.
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Cedric, click the program that says:
"CaveMaker
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Catt, I'm quite sure he knows what the .bat file is. His computer just doesn't have the requirements to run the program most likely.

Ced, are you sure you're downloading Java v6?


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Yes. Downloaded that. Clicked cavemaker. Nothing happened.
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What site did you download it from?


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Java.com .
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Alright. Then, specifically explain what you did (like in steps)


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yeah and be super specific.
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Ok. I went to google and typed "install latest java plug-in" then i saw a sponser from java.com, and that was version 6, then I clicked the url, then when the page fully loaded, a small window poped up saying "install" then i clicked install. that was it.
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Lol.. We meant how you tried to download the cavemaker.


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Oh, that was easy. I just copied the link off of csd's post and so on.
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Yeah, but we need to know the PERCISE details. Like first I hit open, highlighted all files, extrated all, etc etc.


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ok new glitch. and to think that I got it right after downloading the new version.

I opened a file. I copies something. then I tried to undo. It didn't undo. Instead, it undoed the opening of the file and everything disappeared, but the name of the cave stayed at the top of the window. So I tried to redo, but it couldn't do it.

and command prompt is filled with text with stuff I don't understand and a lot of "<Unknown Source>". or is it supposed to do that?
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csd, undo doesn't work at all for me
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But it works for me.
Also, CSD, can you try to upload your fixed version of this cavemaker? I need a 70x70 cave, but the old cavemaker sometimes crashes.






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I thought this was the fixed version. and he told us not to use it to make caves with until we hammered out all the bugs. well, I'm using it to work on my cave, which is great for looking for bugs, but I press save after like every tile I place. just in case...

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