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Livio
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it was Isa's idea.

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Isa
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Perfect.

Except for the Brits, do anyone of you guys follow the British elections? Right now, the conservative party Tories is in the lead (boo!), with the liberal democrats (who have gained like 15-20% in a month, I think) and the Labour (social democratic party, rules the UK as of now) fighting to catch up. An interesting situation will arise if the Tories doesn't get up to 50%, because the UK will then for the first time ever (?) be ruled by a minority government or a coalition government.
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Sunday, May 2 2010, 6:27 pm EST

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I don't really follow politics, other than the American politics that I run into every other day. But it sure would be cool if the media here was more internationally based, because we Americans tend to have our minds closed off from the rest of the world too much
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I'm not an American. I am a Canadian. I only care about Canadian politics.
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Sunday, May 2 2010, 6:44 pm EST
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I'm not an American, Canadian or Brit. I am a Swede. I care about politics other than the ones directly concerning my country.
Livio
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Sunday, May 2 2010, 6:44 pm EST

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how are canadian politics? Are they just like everyone else' politics or are they more peaceful?
jazz
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Sunday, May 2 2010, 6:59 pm EST

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Basically, we just worry about getting the Canadian Dollar worth more than the American Dollar.
Livio
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I learned about that in my Econ class. When a currency is worth more than another, it will depreciate as people take advantage of the opportunities that come along with that.
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Meh, never interested in politics, never will be.
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Um Silver do you know what politics means?

Anyway I don't really follow politics in other countries (or my own really), but I'm in favour of saving the environment so if anyones planning on doing that anytime soon that would be fantastic.


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One thing that most people in other countries have done: cheer when George W. Bush left the White House.
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I'm Brittish. The Lib Dems are meant to get 26%, Labour 28%, Other 10% and the rest Conservative. Which means a hung parliment.
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Monday, May 3 2010, 3:22 am EST
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As long as the conservatives doesn't get to power, I'm happy.
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Labour have failed.

There, the truth.

I doubt Labour will get into power, especially under that mingebag Gordon Brown.
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I don't REALLY CARE who gets into power but a lot people hate Labour.
Trust me, I live in London.
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Sorry for the triple post, but Labour are fairly right-wing now, like Conservatives. Lib Dems are the left wing party.
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Monday, May 3 2010, 10:28 am EST
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Being Dutch, I see pretty much all parties from other countries as right-wing. Especially in the US. I laugh when people call Obama socialist, as they obviously have no idea what that term means.

Anyway, the Dutch government fell a month ago. A report appeared where it turns out our Prime Minister was lying to the parliament about the Iraq war back in the time. The two biggest parties, the CDA, a Christian Democratic central party, of who the Prime Minister was a member, and the PvdA, a left-wing labour party, disagreed about the interpretation of the report. The two had also been fighting for a long time over other subjects, such as heightening the retirement age from 65 to 67, so the PvdA stepped out and the government fell.
What is worth noting is that the Netherlands have a load of parties. Unlike the US, where you've got only the Democrats and the Republicans, or the UK, where you've got only the Torries, Labour and the Liberal Democrats. Over here in the Netherlands we've got the CDA (Christian democrats), PvdA (left-wing party for the working class), VVD (right-wing party), SP (heavy socialist party), GL (green left-wing party), CU (more fundamental Christian party), D66 (democrats), PVV (far right-wing party against immigration) and PvdD (party for animal rights). And those are only the large parties. We've got many more smaller parties that don't hold a significant part of parliament. So to form majority, the (usually) three largest parties have to work together. And if one of those parties steps out, like with the PvdA now, the government falls.

There is also the Belgian government that fell a bit back. Belgium is seperated in two parts: Flanders, the Dutch speaking part, and Wallonia, the French speaking part. During the elections, the people in Flanders may only vote for Flamish parties, while the people in Wallonia may only vote for Wallonic parties. The only difficulties lies in the region around Brussels. Brussels lies in Flanders, but there are both French and Dutch speaking residents there, so the people there are allowed to vote for Flamish and Wallonic parties. This upsets the Dutch speaking people in Wallonia, because they are still forced to vote for Wallonic parties. The government was ordered to find a solution for this, but couldn't find one. So the largest Flamish party stepped out of the government.


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politics fail. always.


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Monday, May 3 2010, 1:08 pm EST
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So do you support anarchism or dictatorships?


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I hate politics, which isn't a good thing for someone in my position. A lot of my friends like to drone on about it, and I can never just shake the feeling like they're doing it just to sound intelligent and opinionated and mature. One of them is going on all the time about, "the Liberals are blah, but blah blah Conservatives blah blah, and the US and yada blah," and when I actually got into a discussion with him about it, it turns out he didn't even know what an electoral college vote is. He also goes to Starbucks to type away at his Macbook.

I'm pretty Liberal, but I dunno, maybe I just don't see why people like to get riled up about politics. Maybe in other countries, but not in Canada. But I guess I have to get over it since politics and political systems are pretty relevant in law school. Quite a bit more than I was expecting, actually, and especially when you're studying International Law.

That isn't to say Canadian politics can't be interesting once in a while.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOt2Qp0H9G8
Livio
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Arizona strikes again! Some school boards want to remove English teachers who do not pronounce certain words correctly, either because they have a strong accent or they just don't know English that well. The logic is understandable to an extent, but this will further fuel the wrath of minorities as they take it to be just more racial discrimination.
Isa
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Monday, May 3 2010, 8:24 pm EST
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Pronunciation? What about spelling, then? Isn't that equally as important?
Livio
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Monday, May 3 2010, 8:35 pm EST

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I guess they're targeting Kindergarten and First/Second/Third grade teachers, where teaching English is really easy and simple that non-native speakers were probably seen as something that wasn't so bad.

And now that I've read the posts before me....

Most people hate politics, and the reason is probably because everyone involved in politics is so opinionated and ideological. The way I see it, people act like they're fighting a war of perspectives. What this means is that they think politics is a battle between good and evil, and that you should never listen to the other side or risk being corrupted. For example: if you can't understand why someone would try to protect illegal immigrants from dying in the desert, it's obviously not because they just happen to value human life; no, it's because they're evil-- they're from the dark side...

I'm sure no one consciously thinks this way, but they certainly act like this, and I'm talking about both sides. I've heard people talk about how to fix "the political system" but if anything has to be fixed, it's our culture and the way we approach politics. I'd much rather prefer a system in which political controversies were approached from a more scientific perspective, where people look at issues as puzzles to be solved and not as battles to be won. That way there is no demonizing and more open-mindedness.
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Friday, May 7 2010, 12:14 pm EST
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Results from the British elections are in. Results are as follows:

Tories (Conservative): 306 (out of 650)
Labour (Social Democratic): 258
Liberal Democrats: 57
Others: 29

I am not content, as you may have guessed. Tories and Lib. Dem. have started discussions about a coalition government. If the two parties can't get along (which I think is quite plausible), then Lib. Dem. will most probably enter discussions with Labour instead. However, even if those two parties decide to form a coalition government, they need the support from some of the minor parties to get majority in the Parliament. Alone, they have 315 seats in the parliament, and 326 are needed for a majority. My personal belief is that (unfortunately) if that situation arrives, Labour/Lib. Dem. will have a hard time finding parties willing to cooperate with them, and vice versa, because they'll have to cooperate with at least two parties.

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