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Jorster
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Monday, April 16 2018, 1:10 am EST
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Deadline is in less than two days, that's not an early lynch. Your only argument seems to be the godfather thing, which isn't strong at all. Mymop, please hammer


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Yeah, I feel like Kro's recent post is just reiterating everything he's accused me of since he first voted for me this game day, so I don't think anything new is going to exactly come to light at this rate. But I know Mymop has been hesitant to hammer too early in the past, so I guess it's up to him as to how to take things.



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Monday, April 16 2018, 1:53 am EST
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You said Yaya's role is inconsistent with everyone elses, while in the same sentence talking about how shos probably didn't make a perfect setup and that proves your role is more likely to be true, which doesn't make any sense to me

I'd also like to call to attention this, more specifically the part where you said you thought yimmy was scum and then didn't vote him, even though a bandwagon was forming and the real possibility for a lynch was there. This is weird to me, not to mention that weird quickhammer when you replaced in.

Also yes, I realize I was incorrect that if we don't lynch we lose, so that's my bad.  


Jorster
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Monday, April 16 2018, 8:38 pm EST
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Less than 24 hours until the deadline


krotomo
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Monday, April 16 2018, 10:17 pm EST
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'Jorster' said:
Your only argument seems to be the godfather thing, which isn't strong at all.

No... your godfather thing was the only reason you gave for why Yaya would support a mymop lynch as town, and I showed definitively that the argument was weak. What evidence-based reason can you give that explains his actions, since your first and only one turned out to be poor?


'Jorster' said:
You said Yaya's role is inconsistent with everyone elses, while in the same sentence talking about how shos probably didn't make a perfect setup and that proves your role is more likely to be true, which doesn't make any sense to me

Game balance isn't the same thing as whether or not shos used Normal or non-Normal roles.


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I'd also like to call to attention this, more specifically the part where you said you thought yimmy was scum and then didn't vote him, even though a bandwagon was forming and the real possibility for a lynch was there.

I voted for yimmy on the next page. It's far more suspicious that HB and yimmy had almost no interaction, as you pointed out earlier, than it is that I delayed my vote on yimmy by a bit. Yimmy also wouldn't be trying to get me lynched so badly during Day 2 if I were scum.


Again, the evidence we have indicates Yaya is scum. HB's lack of interaction with yimmy was suspicious, while yimmy trying to get me lynched supports the idea that I'm town. Yaya's attempt to push a lynch on mymop supports him being scum far more than it supports him being town, for reasons I've already explained. Meanwhile, I've pulled no similar moves to Yaya's recently. The only real piece of evidence you can judge me to be scum on is my RG lynch, which was literally my first Mafia post ever; and even then, the person who played the next largest role in getting rocketguy lynched would be HB, who consistently put suspicion onto him throughout Day 1.

Jorster's analysis of the roles is incorrect, probably because he came up with it while he was already suspicious of me, and because it's largely based on his gut rather than actual reason. If the roles were actually severely unbalanced, I'm certain soccerboy would have said so, considering he had the best understanding of the game and was by far the one who spent the most time analyzing my miller role.

A huge number of things that have been used against me are like Jorster's roles analysis; they are things that don't actually indicate my alignment, but people convince themselves they do. For instance, Jorster states in an earlier post that Yaya's reaction to Jorster's vote "feels" more like a town reaction than mine, without providing any actual argument. To be honest, I'm struggling to put my finger on what exactly the justification is at all for my lynch? Pretty much every reason given in favor for lynching me is either vague, twisted, or heavily opinion-based, while all the pieces of evidence that support that Yaya is scum are being interpreted by Jorster in ways that make literally no sense.

Jorster: Where is the reason for my lynch? Legitimately, where is it? You've pointed out a much of small, meaningless things this Day, all or most of which I have addressed, and none of which provide an serious argument. Meanwhile, you ignore or explain away the actions Yaya has taken that clearly indicate that he is scum.

Mymop, I would suggest not voting at all. The town still survives if there is no lynch, and there's essentially no argument for lynching me. I have no idea what Jorster is doing: he's probably stuck in his own head. Take a step back, look at the arguments Jorster has provided for lynching me, and ask yourself if they are really solid; in fact, ask yourself if they are even arguments at all, because a lot of them aren't.
Mymop
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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 12:28 am EST
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I think we should consider whether it's actually worth continuing for another day; at this point it seems like Jorster is somewhat eager for the game to end, and Yaya and Kro might feel similarly. Going one more day will give the town time to consider more arguments and more evidence, but since Soccer's dead there's no way for us to get definite evidence anymore, so going through another day might not yield any results. Also, judging by recent posts, it doesn't look like Jorster is going to change his mind, so a Kro lynch is probably inevitable.  

None of the evidence stated so far definitively proves either Kro or Yaya guilty, but due to the votes cast so far, there's pretty much no chance of Yaya being lynched. Anyway, if we lynch Kro, then if he's scum the town wins, but if he's not and someone dies during the night then it's a draw, unless I'm mistaken. But, either way, if Kro is lynched today the game is over. If we don't lynch anyone but someone dies during the night then the town will either outright win or outright lose on the next day.

So, do we want to end the game now, or wait another day? I'll be on tomorrow before the deadline.  


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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 12:30 am EST
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I mean, today before the deadline. I typed that before midnight.  


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Jorster
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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 3:19 pm EST
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Mymop, please hammer. If you don't, tonight you will be killed, since I'm essentially immune to night kills and Yaya's role can cause scum to die too, and the next day me and yaya will lynch scum.  


Mymop
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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 4:03 pm EST
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Looks like Kro is going to be dead no matter what. I might as well do it.

vote: krotomo


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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 4:53 pm EST
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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 6:20 pm EST
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  VOTECOUNT OF THE DAY

With 4 alive, it takes 3 votes to lynch.
Day ends in: April 17th, 6.00 p.m. INTERGUILD TIME.

Krotomo (3) - Yaya, Jorster, Mymop.
Yaya (1) - Krotomo.

NOT VOTING:
[None]

Krotomo has been lynched.


shos
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Tuesday, April 17 2018, 6:27 pm EST
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Krotomo has been lynched.

He was...

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Night 4 starts now. It will end in 2 days exactly from this post.
Anyone with a night action - please PM me your actions.
  


shos
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 5:29 am EST
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Mymop has been killed!


He was a...

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shos
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 5:29 am EST
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With only 2 alive, the scum win!

CONGRATULATIONS JORSTER!


...jk, congratz yaya!


shos
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 5:45 am EST
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SETUP:
1. Yimmy - Falling Boulder - Rolecop
2. Isa - Fake Tile - Miller
3. HB - Stalactite - Goon
4. Rocketguy - Platform - VT
5. Soccer - Hannah - Cop
6. Mymop - Box - VT
7. Jorster - commuter - secret area
8. atvelonis - Water level - VT
9. darvince - Metal crate - VT

Kro replaced Isa, and Yaya replaced HB.
Yaya has truly played brilliantly. That was gamechanging!


krotomo
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 7:52 am EST
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'Jorster' said:
If kro is town I will chew a sock on camera
Isa
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 8:59 am EST
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soccer played very well

krotomo played well apart from the hammer

i have no idea how yaya turned that

jorster, eat your pants while youre at it


shos do you intentionally give me miller roles
Yaya
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 10:25 am EST

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Here's the strategy-filled scum chat for anyone who's curious.

I didn't particularly want to play mafia, but I figured it'd be rough to see the game implode due to lack of activity, so I joined. I mainly didn't wanna play cuz I thought it might add unnecessary stress to my life, but I guess overall it was manageable. Still I would've preferred HB just sticking in the game and getting lynched. Even before I joined, I knew there was a very good chance she was scum. So to HB I say, heck you.

I'm pretty shocked at how things turned out myself. Like, I accepted I was gonna get lynched when I wrote this post, I wasn't really trying at that point. Buut things miraculously swung in my favor, and I managed to hold out. I feel bad for Kro, cuz he was spot on in basically everything he accused me of D4-- I wanted a Mymop lynch cuz he'd likely poorly defend himself. When everyone else told me that was a terrible idea, I backpedaled the hell away, focused on Kro, and scrounged up some "evidence" to show that he's scum.

For those wondering why my claim was kinda complicated, I was entering the game with a lot of heat on HB, and I wanted something that'd dissuade people from lynching me right away or night actioning me. I was very surprised that nobody wanted me to claim when I joined the game, but I held onto roughly the same claim until I eventually had to (I tweaked it a little). Also I was under the impression that there was some sort of roleblocker/doctor in the game because of Yimmy. As far as I can tell, the scum tried to kill Soccerboy N2, and that obviously didn't happen. Idk if it had something to do with him investigating Jorster, or if he was one-shot bulletproof or something. Regardless, Yimmy suggested there might be a jailkeeper among the townies, and that got me worried that Soccerboy wouldn't go down easily.

I think that covers everything. Good game, everyone. Shos plz stop using me as a replacement in games where I'm not signed up to be one



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Yimmy
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 1:26 pm EST
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https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/CQMhsLaSr827a
Dead chat (aka i continue to pretend im smarter than everyone)
krotomo did good, everybody else was painful to witness.  


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Jorster
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 4:33 pm EST
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Jorster
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 4:35 pm EST
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I feel like one of the reasons I missed scumya was because it was all too easy for him to pull the replacement card to get out of questions. my bad kro, I tunneled too hard


shos
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 6:49 pm EST
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'Jorster' said:

LAWL
yes
'Isa' said:
soccer played very well

krotomo played well apart from the hammer

i have no idea how yaya turned that

jorster, eat your pants while youre at it


shos do you intentionally give me miller roles
YESZ
and no lol
RNG did that this time


@yaya - I had nobody! but as you've proven, twas a good choice man


krotomo
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 6:54 pm EST
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I wish we won, but regardless of the outcome it was a fun game. We would've possibly won if it weren't for my RG lynch, which is a bit frustrating. Soccerboy played really well while he was alive, which gave us a good chance of winning.

Good job following through on the sock thing Jorster

I was surprised at how much of a commitment this was. I wrongly expected it to be like any other forum game I've played in the past, where you just spend five minutes making a post every other day. But I guess the thought and involvement required is a necessary part of what makes Mafia interesting.
soccerboy13542
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Wednesday, April 18 2018, 9:26 pm EST
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so yaya DID have a strategy-filled scumchat!


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You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
Isa
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Thursday, April 19 2018, 5:04 am EST
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one thing people need to keep tabs of is anti-town behavior vs. noob-town behavior. i think all of our games have had the same start - we lynch the seemingly worst player on day 1 and he is always town. i called RG as town, but i did suspect mymop was scum, so im not perfect either. something for the collective as a whole to think about

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