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The Karma System was an alternative to the old points system. It was proposed by Dando on December 1st, before the Interguild's current site was released. The idea of the Karma system is to encourage our users to make better and more thought out posts.

The idea of the Karma System is that you get to vote on posts depending on how you feel about them. The total count each post is displayed at the top right portion of the post. That total gets added to the user's total karma, which is the total score of all of the user's posts.

3 simple scenarios to follow:

Scenario 1 - A post is very clever, insightful or useful, or you agree with the opinion presented in it very much. In this situation, you should choose to hit the + button, which is a green upwards arrow on the top right portion of the post.

Scenario 2 - The post stands out as being rude, offensive, spam, poorly thought out, or something that you just plainly dislike. In this situation, you would hit the - button, which is a red downwards arrow on the top right portion of the post.

Scenario 3 - The post does not stand out. It is simply just an ordinary post. In this scenario, you wouldn't do anything, because there is nothing special about this post, and you shouldn't be rewarding or punishing users for making average posts.

Restrictions to the Karma System:

Firstly, you cannot rate posts that are 10 days old. This is to prevent people from spam rating, or in other words, going around and rating a specific person's posts negatively/positively with no regard to the content of the post, but merely because they like or dislike that person.

Mod powers have been created to ensure that there is no foul play going on. If you are found to be spamrating, you will have the ability to rate posts permanently or temporarily taken away, and have your spam-rates deleted.

You will not be able to rate your own posts, for obvious reasons.

Having a negative karma doesn't necessarily mean that people hate you, but are more likely the result of a few bad posts with no outstanding posts to bump your karma back up. If you do end up with a negative karma, it's nothing to be ashamed of (unless you're jell, in which case, you should cry and eat ice cream in a dark room)
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krotomo
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Monday, July 20 2009, 1:12 pm EST
The Shepherd

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Bmwsu said:
shos said:
Bmwsu said:
Quirvy said:
No. Anyone can submit an article; Staff are the ones who approve it.

Although, so far, staff members have been the only ones to write them.

Non-mods! Change this!


I am working on one.
which one is that? i mean, what topic?


A Free Rider 2 one, and then a Line Rider one.
wait. non-mods like me can write articles? Can we write guides too?
Quirvy
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Monday, July 20 2009, 1:15 pm EST
  

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yes.



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Livio
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Monday, July 20 2009, 1:32 pm EST

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if you look at the Guides Index, there's a big fat button on the top-left that says "Submit a new Guide"
krotomo
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Monday, July 20 2009, 2:27 pm EST
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I wanna make a line rider guide about a trick and useful tricks and glitches is part of the hatpc manual. what do i do?
Bmwsu
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Monday, July 20 2009, 2:29 pm EST

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krotomo said:
I wanna make a line rider guide about a trick and useful tricks and glitches is part of the hatpc manual. what do i do?


No stealing my guides that I will do.


Quirvy
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Monday, July 20 2009, 3:05 pm EST
  

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Then do it before he does.



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krotomo
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Monday, July 20 2009, 3:05 pm EST
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I'm not. Just becuz I am making a line rider guide doesn't mean it's the same exact thing
Livio
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Monday, July 20 2009, 4:18 pm EST

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or both of you can contribute to it. Because it's possible to have more than one author per guide....
shos
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Monday, July 20 2009, 4:58 pm EST
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yeah, and it's possible even to create 3 thirds of the article. if i managed to make a cave with 3 shoses...


Quirvy
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Thursday, July 23 2009, 1:03 pm EST
  

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Wow, right now, everyone is really close to eachother. Well, just ignore me. I mean, look at these karma rankings:

1) Quirvy -- Karma: 44
2) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 40
3) Dando -- Karma: 37
4) Livio -- Karma: 24
5) shos -- Karma: 24
6) Isa -- Karma: 22
7) dando52 -- Karma: 16
8) krotomo -- Karma: 16
9) jebby -- Karma: 12
10) Yaya -- Karma: 12

At this rate, everyone, except for Livio, is projected to have their karma increase over the week!

So, lets go over each matchup one at a time

2) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 38
3) Dando -- Karma: 37

This matchup was pretty much fated to happen. Dating back to the old interguild, long before the real karma system was made, I made a "Graph of Greatness", depicting the greatness of our mods and such. Dando and CSD started at above 100%, CSD above Dando. Dando's greatness was rising faster than CSD's, but then he became a mod and uncensored the word "crap", which skyrocketed his greatness out of the graph.

It appears as though the same thing is bound to happen here. A few days ago, dando was down with Livio, shos and Isa, but then her snowflake walkthrough lifted to her within striking distance, and eventually she managed to catch CSD, but soon, we will see CSD pulling away from Dando

4) Livio -- Karma: 24
5) shos -- Karma: 24
6) Isa -- Karma: 22

Livio started out pretty slow, hanging around in the negatives for a while, but he's finally decided to join us here in the positives, and now is tied for number 4 on the list. However, we all know that this will not last. Even though Shos isn't going to be here until august or something, Livio is bound to make quite a bit of bad posts, bumping his karma down to the single digits, or possibly even the negatives. You can Expect Isa to move into 4th place with ease.

7) dando52 -- Karma: 16
8) krotomo -- Karma: 16

Kroto's karma has been rising for quite a while, since making the hatpc quiz. luckily for him, the hatpc quiz shutting down didn't mean that his karma was going to shut down. Recently, he took a 16-15 lead on the D52, but that was a short-lived lead, as Dando52 regained her composure and tied him. Things are not looking good for kroto; He is facing the almighty D52, so the best he can hope for is 7th place, sadly


9) jebby -- Karma: 12
10) Yaya -- Karma: 12

Despite Yaya being possibly the coolest active non-mod, he doesn't make as many cool posts nowadays. And well, Jebby just got started, so it's not looking good for him

But at least he'll be ahead of Accel.

With all of this said, this is our projected Karma rankings 1 week from now.

1) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 138
2) Quirvy -- Karma: 51
3) Dando -- Karma: 43
4) Isa -- Karma: 30
5) shos -- Karma: 24
6) dando52 -- Karma: 22
7) krotomo -- Karma: 18
8) jebby -- Karma: 16
9) Yaya -- Karma: 12
10) Harumbai -- Karma: 8
?) Livio -- Karma: -7



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canadianstickdeath
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Thursday, July 23 2009, 1:08 pm EST

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Georgia said:
1) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 138
2) Quirvy -- Karma: 51
3) Dando -- Karma: 43
4) Isa -- Karma: 30
5) shos -- Karma: 24
6) dando52 -- Karma: 22
7) krotomo -- Karma: 18
8) jebby -- Karma: 16
9) Yaya -- Karma: 12
10) Harumbai -- Karma: 8
?) Livio -- Karma: -7

Fixed.

I'm on to you, you know! You're just posting this to get people to give you positive karma, but I'm not going to fall for it!
Isa
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Thursday, July 23 2009, 1:12 pm EST
No. I'm an octopus.

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It's not like I'm actually posting that often, you know. During the latest two months I've made around 100 posts or so.
Quirvy
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Thursday, July 23 2009, 1:12 pm EST
  

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But you're still better than shos and Livio



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Quirvy
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Monday, July 27 2009, 1:10 am EST
  

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Lol. My post actually HELPED CSD catch up to me. His reaction got 2 karma, mine only 1

EPIC FAIL.

Anyways, as expected, CSD's karma is getting closer and closer to that infinity mark.

It's still a little early to finalize the results, but I thought I might update you guys.

Before said:
1) Quirvy -- Karma: 44
2) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 40
3) Dando -- Karma: 37


After said:
1) Quirvy -- Karma: 49
2) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 48
3) Dando -- Karma: 42


As you can see, the Dando vs. CSD battle is over; CSD's RoDB walkthrough skyrocketed his karma, and eventually went on to take a 2 karma lead in the interguild, with him 48, Quirvy 46.

Recently, though, he has lost his lead, but this event may be shortlived; he is CSD after all.

But, yeah, I finally get to compete for first place with someone else. BRING IT ON, CSD!!!

Our computers predict that a week from now, CSD will be at 288, and I will be at 55, but in the mean time it's at least close, right guys?




As for the updates for predictions, Dando52 has taken a 1 karma lead over Krotomo(18-17), Jebby is now leading Yaya(13-12), and unsurprisingly, Livio's karma has dropped(23), and Isa's has risen(23)!

1) Quirvy -- Karma: 49
2) canadianstickdeath -- Karma: 48
3) Dando -- Karma: 42
4) shos -- Karma: 24
5) Isa -- Karma: 23
6) Livio -- Karma: 23
7) dando52 -- Karma: 18
8) krotomo -- Karma: 17
9) jebby -- Karma: 13
10) Yaya -- Karma: 12

BTW, interestingly enough, CSD was the one to +1 my post...



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dando52
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Monday, July 27 2009, 1:12 am EST

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D52 IS GOING TO LEAVE MR KROTOMO IN THE DUST!!!
Silver
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Monday, July 27 2009, 1:14 am EST

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Quirvy's prediction is coming true: but the karma numbers won't really be exactly exact now.
Isa
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Monday, July 27 2009, 5:25 am EST
No. I'm an octopus.

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Lol, the reason Quirvy is up there at all is because he got +10 Karma from the HatPC Quiz that Krotomo held. Without that, he'd be in third.

Also, Harumbai is now in 9th place, with 15 Karma!
Quirvy
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Monday, July 27 2009, 11:27 am EST
  

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+7, actually. Even without that 7 karma, I'd be in second place, only trailing by 4.



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Isa
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Monday, July 27 2009, 11:35 am EST
No. I'm an octopus.

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Huh. I thought someone said +10. Ah well.
Quirvy
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Monday, July 27 2009, 11:38 am EST
  

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Dando estimated it in the staff forum, just as a general guess. She said something like, "I'll let you keep the 10 karma you gained from the hatpc quiz"

I should have gotten +8, but kroto never rewarded me for my last correct answer, despite it being before the rule change. Oh well, not like I'm mad about it, because that would be a totally unfair way to gain karma. Right?



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Harumbai
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Friday, July 31 2009, 4:01 am EST
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I was wondering about an addition to the Karma system for negative rates. I thought that maybe there should be a page so that if you rate someones post negative it then asks you to specify why and there could be a drop down list and an other option. You then would say why you thought it was a bad post and it could be both filed and sent as a PM to the user so that they firstly know which post it was and why this kind of post is not good to post and how they can fix it. This also may stop people giving negative karma for posts that they don't like the idea behind rather than it actually being a bad post and will get rid of clutter from people telling people why not to make posts like what they just have in the main forums.

The PM could read something like:

Your post ".........................." has been rated negatively because it was considered to be "............................." please refrain from making posts like this.......................


I don't know it was just an Idea  .


Upcoming HatPC level: Sanctuary, coming soon to an internet browser near you...
Quirvy
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Friday, July 31 2009, 11:12 am EST
  

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I'm tempted to say, "but then catta's inbox would be full"

I think that the reason behind why some certain are negatively rated is pretty clear, and that whole process would be somewhat unnecessary. We don' have too many problems with opinion related -1ing.

Of course, we are planning on making a system where you can +1 or -1 a user, and give an explanation for why you have chosen to +1 or -1 that user. But it may be quite a while before that happens.



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Harumbai
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Friday, July 31 2009, 6:16 pm EST
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Well at least something that told you which posts of yours have had karma added and subtracted, I'm still trying to figure out what I got bad Karma for.


Upcoming HatPC level: Sanctuary, coming soon to an internet browser near you...
Isa
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Friday, July 31 2009, 6:18 pm EST
No. I'm an octopus.

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Quote:
Then how can you be justified in rating it?


This one got you +2 at first but then a user -1'd it.
Livio
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Friday, July 31 2009, 6:29 pm EST

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Harumbai said:
Well at least something that told you which posts of yours have had karma added and subtracted, I'm still trying to figure out what I got bad Karma for.
that would be useful...

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