Are you one of those people that's pumped for Diablo III, Jell?

No. I hardly get pumped for new games anymore, especially those from Blizzard. Blizzard has been dead to me ever since they replaced "4" with "World of".

"4 Warcraft"

I didn't know you were a fan of chatspeak, Jell

I guess you're right, but otherwise doesn't what you said ruin the purpose of "Member Chat Box"?

I think we should have a specific forum that doesn't show up in the "Recent Posts and Comments" box specifically for Thomas' chat or Darvince/Cedric/Silver's chat.

This would of course require livio to do that... so maybe it's not such a good idea.

R.I.P. Jim Marshall, the founder of the Marshall guitar amp company. I know that for you people who aren't as musically enthusiastic as I am won't think it's as much of a loss as I think it is, but still. Even if the Jim Marshall has passed away, the Marshall amps will live on.

Just thought I'd bring this up..

I'm not trying to suck up when I say that Thomas has gotten a lot better recently, IMO. I may be on at the wrong times or maybe he seems better in comparison to... others, but I smell improvement.

Yeah it's because I'm the worst person. In the world. In the universe. Maybe even for all 13.8 billion/6-10k years that it's existed.

Sure, but there's still the posts that Quirvy bring up that I doubt we've seen the last of. Until those are gone, Thomas posting is still E tier at best.

Blizzard's old games still rock. I'm 19 and I still get super tense when playing diablo 1.

Quick quiz! Where does the mass of a tree come from?

(just wondering how many people know)

Hmm, science?  

No, I take everything seriously so I want to talk to serious people. Soccerboy is 14 and I'd still talk to him though and stuff.

No, I used "members under the age of 15" because I did not want to use names here. There are some people under the age of 15 who are mature though, trust me.

Yeah they're not mature enough and/or serious enough to talk to me.

Okay, it's not a "normal" conversation. Look at this: http://www.chrisbrogan.com/five-levels-of-social-conversation/
I dunno how you define the work "normal" but I'd score your chats, based on that blog, a 0.5-1. All you do is say "Hai!!!" or something like that then go on to post random emoticons and stuff. Quirvy summed it up in his post but he failed to mention that this has happened on more than one occasion. I'm sure Yaya only brought that up up because it happened many times. He wouldn't jump on to you guys that fast.

Next, you can annoy people unintentionally. Here's some real life situations: you turned up your crappy music too loud on your iPod in a classroom or an elevator or something, or maybe have a habit of fiddling with stuff and you click your pen a lot. This too could happen in a classroom environment. I hope you were not serious about ignoring the chat box when it is centered at the top of every page on the page. Also, some people did manage to ignore this up until Yaya's complaint but it gets harder and harder to ignore something when it happens more than once.

With that put aside, the quoted above also sounds like you admit that you know those chat box conversations are annoying. Now what are you going to do to change that?

Oh yeah I'm sure there's other people who don't want to talk to those "members under the age of 15" in the chat box but they're less open about it than me. But I guess you're only accusing me because I'm too open about it.

Time to take on both sides, making me unpopular in the process.

Okay, first of all, I'm going to start off by addressing the whole "Are their conversations annoying" thing, by posting this excerpt from the chatbox that I almost used yesterday, but decided not to, because I figured it would be better to just focus on Thomas since I find him and the way he was acting to be more annoying:

Wednesday, 11:56pm - ★Cɛdɾıc★ :c
Thursday, 12:11am - Silver Hi guys!
Thursday, 12:12am - ★Cɛdɾıc★ Silverr =DDD
Thursday, 12:12am - Silver (:
Thursday, 12:14am - ★Cɛdɾıc★ Haiii c:

I see stuff like this and I skip past the entire conversation because I infer that there is little if any content in it. It's true that the chatbox is used for chatting, and that's why you guys haven't been warned by anyone or anything, but that doesn't mean that it isn't annoying when you hold conversations like that.

Excerpt from earlier today:

Thursday, 9:27pm - ★Cɛdɾıc★ LOOLL. xDD
Thursday, 9:57pm - ★Cɛdɾıc★ :c
Thursday, 9:57pm - Silver Dead IG is deeeeeeeead.
Thursday, 9:58pm - ★Cɛdɾıc★ Mhm. :c
Thursday, 10:05pm - ★Cɛdɾıc★ =\

Additionally, just in general when people see you three having giant conversations, even if they are filled with content, they are so massive and often occurring that they just don't want to bother reading any of it. I think that Darvince isn't really as much a participant in these emoticon wars as much, but he still gets drawn into this because he's often a participant in their lengthy conversations, and he also acts really quirky all the time in different ways. Way early on he would often use kol, and then more recently he because obsessed with "o hi" and "o bai" and he was overdoing it so much that I felt compelled to make that censor. I think darvince also tends to be a little bit on the dramatic side, sometimes:

Thursday, 1:59am - Captain Annoying Hey, is my mental age negative? Should I suicide now or later? I know this sounds completely pathetic, but the world is too stubborn. Or maybe I'm too stubborn. In fact I think I'm the stubborn one that should be cleansed off of this Earth.
Thursday, 2:04am - Captain Annoying Thomas do you want me to die?
Thursday, 6:32pm - Captain Annoying PEOPLE I LEAVE BEFORE SILVER AND CEDRIC START FILLING THE CHATBOX
Thursday, 7:33pm - Captain Annoying i know i'm rude, it's because everyone hates me anyway so it couldn't get worse

Seriously, those are some very disturbing posts which make me worry about you. Just because some people associate you with some annoying chatbox conversations, doesn't mean that everyone hates you and wants to see you die. You're still an relevant member, and you shouldn't let Thomas being a douchebag to you make you think that we don't want you on here or anything like that.

Oh, hey, look at that, a perfect opportunity for a transition.
Because I specifically said "(note that this indicates these are my thoughts, and not facts so please refrain from trying to tell me why my thoughts are wrong)" I am not going to address you answering a rhetorical question, and disputing my personal opinion. But instead this interests me.

What you basically just admitted to is that because you view them as less mature than you, you don't want to talk to them and don't plan on doing so unless it's about how they need to change their behavior. I find this very ironic and humorous.

It seems like it was only yesterday (it was probably more like a year) when I was annoyed by your constant bombardment of private messages and your lack of willingness to take responsibility for your own actions, that I declared that I was no longer going to respond to your private messages. And do you remember how you reacted? You demanded that I reply to your PMs, and continued to send me more. I think you even got Silver to call me immature for ignoring you or something. Basically, my point is, you are a massive hypocrite in my eyes.

So here's what I'm thinking: From my perspective (which is of course different than yours), you're behavior towards our younger members is immature, and you take yourself way to seriously.

Let me go off on tangent: What is with the seriousness? Is having fun against the law in Canada or something? On April fools day, you were busy trying to get out information about who is which agent, and I deleted one of your chatbox posts and gave you a warning for "Compromising the integrity of other agents", and then you revealed Agent Peach to be D52, and then I deleted that and decided to chatbox ban you for a while to stay in character and remain consistent, with "Actions have consequences" as the reasoning. And then you sent me a questionable PM.

2 things here:
1. While I'll agree that it wasn't that brilliant an April Fools Day joke, you never really wanted to participate. I think I recall you making a few agenty posts, but that was after I responded to your questionable PM denying your request until your behavior improved, and it seemed to me that you were doing that mostly to indicate that your behavior had improved. Before that, though, you were coming off as "I'm to serious to participate in these childish games"

2. If I took things as seriously as you, you would have received punishment for that PM, maybe a suspension for a day or two. I don't care if you censored out a few characters, you don't say that to a staff member(or any member for that matter), nor do you try to boss a staff member around like that. You should be very appreciative of the fact that people aren't as serious as you, yet you despise people for not being serious.

Furthermore, here's where I'd say that because you're too immature and too serious for me, that I won't be talking to you anymore. But I'm not actually going to not talk to you anymore, because I don't alienate members for silly reasons like "they're not mature enough and/or serious enough to talk to me".

Also I don't think people really want to talk to somebody who is considering (or maybe joking) about suicide.

Yeah that's right. I don't see what's so funny though; I'm not laughing.

Well, on the bright side, it's mature towards older members. So you guys here are gamers and I'm not and you guys sure like to joke around and stuff and I don't.

No; we're not communist or something like that.

Those posts I made were not related to the PMs. I made up the IC thing because I thought I could make up an okay story with screenshots of posts by Livio and Haily and stuff that I created on my IC dev server or something. I was too busy later that day and kind of lazy as well to bother.

I was frustrated that you were deleting my chat box posts and then proceeding to chat ban me when no rules were broken. Also, I'm not amused with D52's "I'm better than you" crap. I guess I could be a jerk and say April fools?

Well you did alienate members for silly reasons last summer, August 1st to be exact.

Much lighter post, following a more serious one, which will probably end up being overshadowed by more long serious posts, but hopefully not. Oh, look, Thomas has already written his rebuttal to my post. Won't read it until tomorrow.

Thomas, I wanted to let you know, that when asked Livio how he knew that it was you posting as Mr Snuggles and Barack Obama, you were actually jumping the gun in that instance. We knew it was you(or at least that was what the last post about it in the staff forum said; "Actually, it's probably Thomas. He knows how to make chatbox posts as other users." - Me), but whatever made you ask Livio how he knew it was you, wasn't targeted at you, and we hadn't publicly acknowledged that we thought you were Mr. Snuggles. I even asked Livio about in the staff forum later on, because I thought it was kind of funny:

Yeah I already knew that Livio probably thought it was me because he knows that I'm the only person who knows how to do that. I forgot that you knew about this as well though.

I don't see how Livio was not talking to me though. If I recall correctly, Livio said he could ban the people abusing that censor and then I said something about not banning Obama. That's when he said "what you did actually wasn't that annoying." If he wasn't talking to me then who was he talking to? After that I asked him how he knew it was me and he said because I was the only person who knew how to do that. If that was his lead to the suspect the whole time then I would have been the only suspect and his post would have been directed at me. That's kind of funny though, lol.

It assimilates components from the air and soil, such as carbon dioxide and water, into complex organic structures. To build these it uses sunlight as an energy source.

Like the conversation above. This isn't L-1 in a mafia game, geez. I'm sure you guys had some fabulous points to prove, but they aren't worth THAT much attention...

Lol just got ninja'd by Yaya(26 minutes ago?!) about posts being too lengthy and stuff.

I don't really care to respond to all of those things Thomas has said. If he doesn't want to change his behavior, that's up to him. But I will respond to this:
Not responding the massive numbers of Private messages you were sending me (as a result of you trying to get people to -1 me for things that you did), but still communicating with you in the chatbox is not the same thing refusing to communicate with users by saying things like "So members over the age of 14, how are you today?" with the reasoning being that they're not serious or mature enough to talk to you.

Also if you're trying to say that my only argument for why I'm not going to ignore you is invalid, then that would indicate that I have no valid reasons to not ignore you like you are doing to Darvince, Silver and Cedric, and that I should just ignore you. But I'm still not going to do that.

I'm not getting into an argument with you about all of that other stuff; I'm just giving you my point of view on the way you're acting right now. Whether or not you decide to take my point of view into consideration is up to you.

But on a brighter note, it is still true what Yaya mentioned like last page or earlier this page; You may have some shortcomings in the chatbox from time to time, but at a larger scale you have massively improved your behavior in the chatbox

Also:
He was referring to people overusing the random color censor. I think that specifically jazz was using it a lot in the chatbox, along with some other members. What he said immediately before "what you did actually wasn't that annoying." indicated that he was talking about those groups of people, not you.

Said before making a massive post.

I only responded to 1/7 of his post, added some additional thoughts, and then responded to a separate post. So, yeah, I didn't care to respond to all of those things that Thomas said, so I didn't.

I wouldn't say that.

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Vote: Thomas


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FoS: FlashMarsh

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