Lol at shos wondering if he was Canadian. Also, he claims to be 20; you're 19, shos

I'm kind of disappointed we haven't heard back from Dando/Wiley yet. Perhaps he decided that he'd rather wait for things to cool down before responding to our posts. Or he could actually just be busy.

Since were all confessing things, I'm pregnant... And Shos is the father...

I THOUGHT WE AGREED TO KEEP IT SILENT TILL THE BELLY CAN BE SEEN?!?!?!?!?!

*sigh*

...yup, I'm gay, and am in partnership with the master of puppets. dance, my puppets, dance.

And apparently I'm a tansgender....

I feel like I'm the only one not blown away by this stunning relevation.

But I must say I am kinda weirded out by it.

I agree. This whole Jorster-shos thing really isn't all that surprising.

Shos and I have been seeing each other for about 6 months now <3<3<3<3<3<3<3

In case you hadn't guessed, its a joke

The picture was just some woman I found on Google Images. I had no Neopets account before dando52, and if you go to my user page on Neopets, I never changed my gender from Male. And I didn't explain myself when Wiley was uncovered because it still seemed interesting to me. Had I known the Interguild would last so long, I probably would've thought twice about it.


Yeah, the Wiley explanation was made up on the spot. I think it shows, lol (like saying I was inspired by Batman). The whole thing with Wiley is kind of weird and over-complicated. I joined as Wiley right after I made Dando leave. I made Wiley type poorly at first because I wanted to avoid drawing any comparisons to Dando, and I think I said I was Australian because I didn't want to say I was Canadian (for the same reason). The plan was to quietly slink in, differentiate myself from Dando in a few subtle ways, and then gradually go back to being myself. I quickly realized I didn't have the patience for that and wound up starting a giant argument with everybody on the site instead, lol.


It was entirely an act at the beginning, but it deteriorated over time. The difference in tone between some of my posts can seem pretty jarring when I look over them. I feel like I mostly just post as myself now, but it's hard to describe what's an act and what isn't because it's sort of melded together to me. Stuff like silly nicknames or remarks about Ikea's great cinnamon buns were Flora/Dando.

I'll post a real picture later. (bed time for me)

lol, you must be a real badbutt if you actually made all that up on the spot and fooled us all. that was so long ago, lol; when Isa joined too, right? pfft. *waits for pic*

So a few random things popped into my head.

I remember you telling us once about how you had a flash drive with all your caves in it, and you accidentally put it in the laundry, and when you realized what you had done you blurted aloud something like "No! My caves!" Was that just a story that you made up or did that really happen?

And additionally, it seemed like every time you were inactive, it was because of some wedding. Did you just say that because you figured that was something someone in their mid-20s would be involved with, and you were actually just going on normal vacations?


Some general thoughts on this:
I thought it was kind of funny that one of the first things Isa thought following the revelation was "does quirvy have anything to do with this?" I've built myself quite a reputation for these things, I suppose.

Now that you're no longer in your mid-20s, I guess that CSD is going to have to fill the role of the mid-20's person...

You said that you like writing, and you did write a bit; there was your story surrounding that one competition's results, Farmer Dandonovitch, and the mafia game you hosted. Were those stories written in your pure writing style, or did you write them as you would think that Dando would write them?

And one thing that I've always wondered but never asked you was, did it make you a bit uncomfortable how much you were idolized? I mean, Dando was hands down the coolest member here, but nonetheless I felt like you might have found it a bit uncomfortable. I kind of began to feel like it was weird how every time you would come online, someone would go "Hi Dando!", and you were the only person that really got that treatment (although Livio gets the "Wow, Livio's online!" treatment), and that you might have also thought it was a bit weird and not liked it.


Also just a general thought that isn't aimed at Dando/Wiley; I don't think that his post should be karma rated at all; He obviously shouldn't be +1'd since you don't want to reward people for pulling a stunt like that, and at the same time I think that it's wrong to give out negative karma to him for coming clean rather than keeping the secret to himself. He did mislead us, but it wasn't with malicious intent or anything. Plus I feel like seeing a Dando post with negative karma will let people know that something is afoot, and while the reveal will still be a total surprise to anyone reading it just for the first time, I feel like seeing the negative karma will prepare them for it a little bit, and it won't be as out of nowhere. And the feeling of reading that without expecting anything like that was awesome(although perhaps that's just because I love big twists like that). And Livio hasn't read it yet. So I personally encourage you to nullify negative karma on that post.

I have to agree with Quirvy and Silver on this one. I find it hard to care all that much about Dando's true identity. If I was surprised by anything, it was how unsurprised I was. These kinds of revelations seem to happen pretty often on here, so I guess I never really get too attached with my image of what someone is like in real life. Just because someone was pretending to be someone else doesn't mean that the good times we had together were fake, so I don't see much reason to get worked up about it.

I was chatting with Thomas on gmail, and like shos, he asked me for my reaction live. At one point, the conversation went like this:

Also, +1 on Dando's avatar change, lol.

lol I just realize that I misread Silver's post as "I feel like I'm not the only one blown away by this stunning revelation." I'll have to edit my post following that...

Unlike you, I was very surprised by the revelation, but like you say, it isn't something that I deeply care about. We might see a personality change with Dando/Wiley, but ultimately it's the same intelligent, mature person.

Sorry, I haven't had much free time these past few days.


Nope, that definitely happened. It was a floppy disc though.

And I actually did go to a wedding last week, but for the other times, yeah, that's pretty much it. That time I stayed in BC for five months, I was actually just working a summer job at a painting company.


Nah, I didn't really consider Dando at all when I wrote anything like that. Likewise, all of the "serious" posts (like discussing stuff about the site, or critiquing levels) were mostly just myself as well.


I always saw the "Hi Dando!" as being more like a joke or Interguild-meme type of thing. I don't really mind it, lol.

Anyway, here's my real picture:

I vaguely remember that one wedding that somehow spread itself out into a 5 month event or something. I honestly never noticed a difference in tone between you in the staff discussion and you outside of it. Just that you were more serious and goal-oriented in the staff discussion topic, I guess.

Well, I think I've just about run out of questions that interested me. Although one more popped into mind: what was the deal with that two minutes to midnight topic you made way back when? If you even remember it.

And of course, what should we call you? Right now it seems sort of awkward calling you Dando since you've kind of come out to reveal yourself as a different person from the Dando that we know, and perhaps you think it's weird, too, since you are used to being called by that name in a sort of indirect way. Should we continue to call you Dando, or are you going to change your username to something new/go back to Wiley?


Hopefully this means we'll get to see you post a little more. You may not be the same Dando, personality-wise, but regardless you're still probably the best user on this site when it comes to the quality of your posts.

dat.


Also, you definitely look like a guy who is prone to make caves, imo. dunno why. have you ever tried making a level in another game?

I don't remember that topic, but that's a song I used to like.

And yeah, I'll change my name. I'm thinking either Wiley or Sefro, which is my name on Steam and a few other things.


Yeah, I made a few levels in LittleBigPlanet for PS3. I also tried making a Portal 2 level a while ago (inspired by HatPC, actually).

If Sefro is your main online name, then maybe that would be the best pick, although I kinda like the historical irony of using Wiley.

From what I recall, you made basically made a topic in the random chat section, titled "TWO MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT" and the post was some of the lyrics in all caps or something like that. IIRC, Jebby's take on it was that you were drunk. It was a great "lol wtf?" topic.

Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

"Wow... Scary what can be done behind the anonymity of the Internet."

that's jeb's response to this, btw.

Aw, you don't have to say that. I'm sure no one will judge you just because your with shos. I think it's cute.

I view everyone on the internet as androgynous sock puppets. So, that combined with my newness to the interguild makes me indifferent.

To be more eloquent (because we all know I need to be), impersonal electronic communication allows me to view people less as physical realities and more as semantic systems. For us, it can be seen that the reality of gender has little effect on the preexisting personality profile we associate with "Dando", although many of the more veteran members will feel a measure of alienation regardless of what they say. In the end, I'm largely indifferent and predict that most members will move towards acceptance.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still gonna give you crap until the end of time
I'm sure it'll evolve to be just another running joke of the interguild.

That is one of the coolest explanations I have ever heard. Now I will be required to view each mental representation of every member as sock puppets occasionally. Let the fun begin...

If were going to be sock puppets, I want to be Kermit.