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Isa
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 6:09 pm EST
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Welcome, dear friends! Welcome back! I have glorious news for you. I am very excited, as you may see. And I tell you, it's not without reason! I've received the most wonderful news...but I already said that. Let me tell you what has happened...no, I'll show you. Here, it's a letter, and you won't believe who wrote it. I won't tell you...just read it. It'll be good, don't worry!

"Hey Gramps! I'm alive!

Armin has told me that you've been receiving letters written by him. I know that he's been trying to help me, but he said that it was really hard to get me out safely. He told me that he got lost, but you should hear his brilliant plan of getting me out without finding me! He found a source of water inside the cave system and created a small river that eventually reached me and got me to the entry of the cave. He had to shut it down at some point as well, but I don't know how he did that...Armin just smiles at me when I ask him.

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DeathBunni X was "Water Tap", CRATE aligned.

As "Water Tap", you are a cool person, but somehow, slipping into obscurity.




Because of your non-cratiness, you can't be destroyed in a regular fashion. You are immune to all actions during the night.
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Armin bought some interesting things up from the caves as well! Not only did he find Mars's invention, he also discovered that there were crates similar to the ones I used to find in the first caves I explored. You remember those? The ones filled with pirates and monsters and having lots of dirty water? Well, some wooden crates from that time floated up close to Armin while he was working on closing the tap. Boris have a hard time swimming, but with the aid of these wooden crates, it was apparently easy to get out. Sometimes, you're really fortunate, I guess.

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Quirvy was "Wooden Crate", CRATE aligned.

As "Wooden Crate", you're not very noticeable. Most people pass you by without thinking twice about you.



When you are you killed (either night-killed or lynched during the day), you will not receive access to the "graveyard" where other fallen members can talk about the ongoings of the game. This is because you have the power to respawn once as a new Wooden Crate.
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One of the two crates turned out to be really dangerous though. Inside one of them was an arrow, pointing at Armin! Thankfully it didn't break, but you can never be too sure, so Armin decided to drop it and continue floating on the safe, empty crate.

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Harumbai was "Arrow Crate", CRATE aligned.

As "Arrow Crate", you have a sharp mind and recognize that you're just a small detail in a chain of events mostly out of your control.



At night, you may select one player. If you're killed during that night, the targeted person dies during the same night. You may also, at any point during the night, trigger your own ability through suicide.
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Armin says that when he got out, the first thing on his mind was to find me, however he was lucky because while I was unconscious, the water level didn't get high enough for me to drown in it. It was however JUST high enough for me to float along with it safely, so now I have a few bruises, but nothing too serious (this scar on my head won't go away anytime soon, I'm afraid...). I'm not complaining though, and I know who to thank for this...so yeah, thank you, Armin!

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Yuggy was "Armin", PROTAGONIST aligned.

As Armin, you have slept inside the Ice Caves for a long period of time. When Hannah woke you up, you became friends and are now forming a team together, where you complement each other nicely.


The bringer is loose? The others, we must warn them! [actual quote]


When you kill someone during the night, you can choose to run through your target so hard that you leave no traces of said target.
Due to your size, you can dodge all dangers during the night and is therefore immune to night kills.
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I'd like to end here, but before that, I must mention a very strange happening. A man, looking like he was in his twenties, met us outside the cavern. He was just as drenched in water as me and Armin were, and also holding a most precious gem. When I asked him what he was doing with us, he just laughed out loud. Seemingly this man was in the cave at the same time as us. Sadly I never got to talk to him more than that, he started to walk away during his laughter and I was not feeling like stopping him...what confuses me is that he dropped a map of the cave system when he walked away. How did he get hold of that!?

Jellsprout was "canadianstickdeath", PROTAGONIST aligned.

As "canadianstickdeath", you have observed all of Hannah's adventures from a distance, often recording them with your home camera. You've successfully manipulated Hannah into doing your biddings, and when she befriended Armin, you quickly took control over him as well. You mainly use your minions to collect treasure chests.


Lol.
Hey, does this seem familiar to you? Chances that Isa is Neezles: 97%.


On nights where you are performing the Protagonist kill, you will have the option to use your CaveMaker to ensure foolproof deletion of anyone.
If investigated by another member, you'll show up as "canadianstickdeath, CRATE" instead of "canadianstickdeath, PROTAGONIST".

You can't win the game if both of your Protagonist brethren are dead. You may sacrifice yourself during the day phase to ensure that a player isn't lynched during that day.
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Was that Mars? I don't think so, Mars should be too old...but you never know, do you?

Anyway, I'm returning home soon. It'll be fun to see you again.

Take care!

Love, Hannah"

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Protagonists wins the game!

Sorry about the late start of "day". It's finally done, though. Expect further comments later on.

Survivors:
1.Jellsprout, "canadianstickdeath", PROTAGONIST aligned
2.Yuggy, "Armin", PROTAGONIST aligned
3.Quirvy, "Wooden Crate", CRATE aligned
4.Harumbai, "Arrow Crate", CRATE aligned

Dead players:
1. Bmwsu, "Fuel Container", CRATE aligned - Lynched Day 1
2. Yaya, "Gem Crate", CRATE aligned - Killed Night 1
3. Nebnebben, "Hannah", PROTAGONIST aligned - Killed Night 1
4. Guyguyxtreme, "Protector of the Ice Caves", INDEPENDENTLY aligned - Lynched Day 2
5. Soccerboy13542, "Captain Oblivious", CRATE aligned - Killed Night 2
6. Jazz, "Life Crate", CRATE aligned - Lynched Day 3
7. canadianstickdeath, "Water Tap Crate", CRATE aligned - Killed Night 3
8. Thomas, "Treasure Crate", CRATE aligned - Lynched Day 4
9. DeathBunni X, "Water Tap", CRATE aligned - Killed Night 4
soccerboy13542
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 6:15 pm EST
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I was...

CAPTAIN OBLIVIOUS. due to my obliviousness, i was going to join the last game but instead joined this one. in every post, i had to ask 3 random questions.


'Livio' said:
You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 6:16 pm EST

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Wuirvy was "Wooden Crate", CRATE aligned.

Lol?

EDIT: And why does it say
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You are "canadianstickdeath"
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ANOTHER EDIT: 1111 posts!

ANOTHER EDIT: Geez, you had to fix them.
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 6:26 pm EST
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I think he directly copied that from my role PM. I'll look in the Graveyard and do some shoutouts tomorrow.


Spoiler:
Isa
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 6:29 pm EST
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Fixed stuff.

Revealing boards.
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Anyways, before reading that entire long post, I just wanna get this outta a few things out of way first:

I believe I suggested the idea that Jellsprout could be telling the truth about him being CSD, but that CSD was actually part of the protagonist, so at least I got that right.

Out of all the people I figured that jellsprout was the most likely to be mafia, because I could only see Jell-Thomas and Jell-Silver as being partnerships, but I didn't think that I could lynch him, so I tried to figure out whether Yuggy or Thomas was his partner, and I couldn't and the mafia gained the advantage.

I wasn't sure whether or not Jellsprout and Thomas were partners and were trying to get the other lynched so that the other would look innocent in the next round (aka: Thomas messed up with his fake role, and jell wasn't going to risk trying to save him), or if Yuggy was the our mafia as he showed with his attempt at lynching Thomas.

Which reminds me, Isa, Thomas may have acted like an idiot, but what made you think that the role of "Treasure" was a good idea? Yeah, I get that it's a hatpc reference but that role was completely useless! He can't get killed by non-mafia at night? The chances of that happening to the average player are extremely slim, and forcing him to do 5 posts per day or his character dies just seems like you needed something to give him something else so you just threw that in there at the last minute. Thomas was acting like he wanted to get lynched, but it didn't help that he had one of the most illegitimate roles in the game.

Although, I'm confused as to what Captain Oblivious has to do with anything, too. You failed to post his role here, and it doesn't really seem to relate to hannah much at all.

Of course, I haven't actually had to make a mafia game, so perhaps I don't know all that needs to go into choosing roles, but you didn't need to do the treasure chest just because it was a vital part of hatpc.

But don't feel like that role was the solely determined the outcome of the game because Thomas was acting like an idiot all throughout the game.

Also, yuggy, you may have not gotten Silver lynched, but from you did a terrible job as her replacement. Her role went from, "She's probably not mafia" to "I think there's about a 50-50 chance that Yuggy is mafia" because of your poor arguments and your vote against Thomas. I feel like if you give out awards, the only people on the mafia who actually would be deserving would be Jell and Silver. Jell did a great job of deflecting my arguments on the final day to the point where I gave up on attacking him, and Silver actually made herself look very much like town when she disappeared after we killed Jazz. nebneb got killed before the game really was able to get going, and Yuggy almost got himself lynched when he was coming into a position where the person he was taking over for looked like town.

But that's just from my honest perspective, and without having fully read Isa's post yet.



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Isa
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 7:21 pm EST
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My post's almost just flavor.

I do realize that Thomas had a poor role. I expect to get flak for this. Originally his role was that the game couldn't end as long as he was alive but I figured that it was an even worse ability. I felt rushed to release the game of Mafia and well...the end result.

Captain Oblivious had some interesting flavour...he was supposed to join the previous game of Mafia (and would be fitting in perfectly with the theme, mind you) but got confused and joined this one instead. He starts as a regular townie with no abilities. On Night 2, Soccer would recieve a PM declaring a role change, where Captain Oblivious realizes that he joined the wrong game and now wants to get out of it as soon as possible. He turns into an independent and wins when lynched but loses if night-killed. The game progresses as normal when he dies.

I'll be honest and say that it wasn't very fun to mod this. Writing flavor isn't fun and the story became weird when Hannah died night 1. The arguments with Thomas in the YOU'RE DEAD topic also sucked energy out of me. CSD did a better job at most things.
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 7:34 pm EST
  

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At least we can say that this mafia game ended with more of a bang than the last game. Everyone voting to lynch Thomas, including Thomas, in addition to a record breaking (for mafia day topics, at least) 193 posts.

Even though you messed up on Thomas' role you get + karma for Captain Obvious' role, that was pretty funny.



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Isa
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 7:36 pm EST
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Too bad Soccer never got that far.
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 7:42 pm EST
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I just wanted to say that you guys should always listen to me:
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 7:44 pm EST
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Thanks for reposting it so that I can finally rate it, haha. Legit drawing.
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I don't exactly know the details of my death, but way to go most likely Jell for randomly killing the detective the 1st night of the game (I'm pretty sure there was no way he could've known). Not trying to sound cocky or condescending, but I'm pretty sure the crates would've had a slightly more pleasant run if the had a detective. You rock Jell, go to a casino and win something because of your 2nd-to-Isa cognitive abilities.



COMING SOON: A giant meteor. Please.
Give me +karma. Give me +karma.
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 8:15 pm EST
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It was Silver because when Jell kills he also Janitors.
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Thursday, June 30 2011, 8:16 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
It was Silver because when Jell kills he also Janitors.


Wrong way around.
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From the You're Dead topic:

'canadianstickdeath' said:
I read day 2, and I now I'm semi-convinced it's Jell and Thomas.

"CSD was also suspicious, leading every lynch so far and killing nobody."
That's not fair -- I wanted to lynch you SOO bad. Quirvy wasn't on board, though, so it wasn't happening. If I could have had confirmation you were scum (which I still can't be sure of, obviously), a reread might very well have pointed me in Thomas' direction... Of course, if I'm completely wrong, then I guess he's got me there.

"I may be playing 'illogically' or something, but I wouldn't do something that stupid."
Ignore this. There's too much WIFOM here to garner any information out of it.
It wasn't that I wasn't on board(although I wasn't because at that time I wasn't sure he was mafia), it was that you were fighting a battle that you weren't going to win when you tried to lynch Jell on day 2. DBX made herself a prime candidate to be lynched when she hopped on board so fast without providing reasoning, and her reasoning was very flawed. When I noticed that you were sticking up for her depsite how poorly she was performing, I thought that you perhaps knew that she was town(or alternatively you were both mafia), which is why I asked you if you knew for a fact that she was town(and then you revealed your roles). When it was 4-2 in favor of DBX and she was only 2 away from getting lynched, I realized that the outcome was going to be DBX getting lynched if I didn't diffuse the whole thing. I wanted to lynch guyguy that day, not DBX, and jell if you got lucky enough to gain everyone's support. The way that guyguy was acting during day 2 convinced me more and more that he was a bad guy. I just didn't think he was independent.

Which reminds me of that one post in the same topic where guyguy called me something like "a silly silly townie lynching people for silly reasons". If my reasons were so silly why didn't you counter them? You were online, hidden, because you didn't want people to see you online without responding to the accusations. If you were going to give up you could have at least told us that you were an indie, or maybe come up with some last second thoughts on who's who.

You also said that if the town followed my lead we'd be lynching townie after townie. Even though it may look like that happened, actually, if anything, the biggest mistake I made was not leading anything in this game. Jazz' lynch? I may have been the one to push at him but it was CSD and Harumbai that really got that one started, I just got really fed up with jazz' refusal to cooperate. Thomas' lynch? I didn't vote until there were already enough votes to lynch him. Even with you, I was too afraid to go out and straight up try to lynch you after dispersing the CSD/DBX vs. Jell thing, because it would look like I had an agenda which was to kill you. I was happy when CSD chose you, and was glad to provide tons of reasons why you looked guilty.


Even if I tried to lynch jell on the last day, I'm not sure I would have succeeded. He was very good at brushing off my early arguments, and it would have been hard to get all town members to agree to lynch him. But if I didn't question Thomas aiming at Jell instead of Yuggy, I might have voted with him and DBX and Harumbai might have jumped on board with it.

And then Thomas probably would have gotten himself lynched the next day anyways.



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I thought Jell was obvscum. I'm not sure how you guys didn't see it.
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I did see it, as the only 2 scenerios I thought made sense was Thomas-Jell and Jell-Yuggy. He was good at deflecting arguments (maybe you say that he wasn't, but he was a helluva lot better than Yuggy and Thomas), and additionally Thomas switched votes from Jell to Yuggy after I questioned why he was going after the one that was harder to lynch.

Regardless, we would have had to find out who his accomplice was, and I couldn't figure out whether or not it was Thomas or Yuggy. I thought Yuggy was acting like one when he voted for Thomas, and he made bad arguments, but lynching him would have felt a lot like lynching. Thomas I was suspicious of because of everything he'd been doing from day 1. The only good defense he had was that nebneb was going after him on day 1. Other than that, he claimed to be intentionally voting for town, he was bandwagoning all the time, his role had holes in it and he was obviously saying things only with the intention of sounding like he was town. I couldn't figure it out, and never made a real decision. I basically left it up to Harumbai and whether or not he was willing to go after Yuggy, or if he was going to stay with Thomas. He went with Thomas, that was his decision which I can't criticize because I wasn't even able to decide between the two of them.

I'm thinking about making a post outlining the reason for why Thomas was obviously independent on day 2, and seeing what holes I missed, because I was almost entirely sure he was our indie.



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Thursday, June 30 2011, 11:01 pm EST
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Quirvy I am always town. It's like how Silver is always mafia.
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Are you sure you're not independent?



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Thursday, June 30 2011, 11:10 pm EST
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Explain why you thought I was indie.
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Gladly.

The first thing that caught my eye was when you claimed to be a "wooden box" in response to something CSD said, obviously because I was the wooden crate.
'Thomas' said:
'canadianstickdeath' said:
So I was actually curious about support for lynching Thomas. Show of hands: If you think we should lynch him today if we can't find a better candidate:
I'm a wooden box!
At that point, I thought you were mafia, and this is why I said "If I die tonight, my dying wish is that you lynch Thomas." Of course it looked like it was just a joke, and I wasn't going to die on night 1. And even if I did I'd have came back day 3 to lynch you anyways.

But then guyguy killed nebneb, and he turned out to be mafia(keep in mind that I didn't know back then that guyguy was the independent, nor did I know that he was the one to kill nebneb)

I thought, that doesn't make any sense, because you two looked nothing like partners in crime. Another one of my initial reactions was why would an independent kill nebneb on night 1? He didn't look particularly suspicious from what I'd remembered, he was just posting really stupid accusations.

And that's when I first suspected that you were independent.

You were very patient with nebneb. He was accusing you for practically no reason, and you were maturely responding to each post of his with legitimate posts. If anything nebneb was acting like you normally do. And I realized that probably would have annoyed you quite a bit. Do you know who else annoyed you? Bmwsu. You voted to lynch him. You'd want nebneb dead because he was annoying you. (or at least he should have)

Here's their interactions:
'nebnebben' said:
Yeah, theres probably not going to be any lynching, because nobody has enough information yet, woe betide anybody who does get lynched today Also I think suspecting Thomas is a bit much after just one exclamation mark, maybe its just the rivalry between you?
'Thomas' said:
@nebnebben I think we should lynch somebody who does not post here often.
'nebnebben' said:
But are the people who post the least, bigger suspects or the people who post the most? Because the people who post the most might have more to hide, so by posting more they are trying to cover themselves up? Is this a good theory, or wrong in every way?
'Thomas' said:
@nebnebben People who don't post often are likely trying to hide something so they can be suspects. It doesn't mean somebody who posts a lot isn't a suspect at all tough but it's a way to build a list of suspects.

According to Isa from the last game it's no loss to lose somebody who doesn't post and apparently statistics show it's a good thing to do.
'nebnebben' said:
Thomas and Quirvy are either just normally arguing or (possibly) are both Mafia and are arguing so no-one suspects they are together. Also Thomas is making loads of crazy accusations to try and stir up suspicion against not mafia. That or he's just trolling. To be honest though, this is just a guess, and I don't have any evidence to support any really conclusive theories.
'Thomas' said:
We do this all the time like in the chatbox but usually through PM's. Everyday Quirvy sends me an Interguild warning message with a dumb warning reason then I just reply with something stupid so it's basically similar to what is on the first page of this forum topic.

So guyguy, Quirvy was just trying to bug me with the exclamation point suspicion.
'nebnebben' said:
Soccerboy and Bwmsu haven't posted yet; they better get a move on before we all think think their Mafia!
'Thomas' said:
Soccerboy is sick and Bwmsu has been working on minecraft but he should post soon to avoid suspicion because he has been online. All he has done is post stuff in the chatbox like "MAFIA!  MAFIAMAFIAMAFIA!".
'nebnebben' said:
I didn't say I wanted anybody lynched, I didn't even FOS them. It was just a blind theory which has an extremely low chance of being right.
'nebnebben' said:
FOS: Thomas
FOS: Quirvy
Vote: Bwmsu

Here is my list of possible Mafia:
-Jellsprout
-Quirvy
-Bwmsu
-Silver
- Thomas
These are all the people who I think have been acting strangely. Though its still probable that none of the above are Mafia.
'Thomas' said:
@nebnebben

You need to bold your FOS's and votes for them to count. You should also provide a reason for your FOS and votes. In the last mafia game I FOSed Silver and put no reasons then I got lynched because people thought I was mafia when I wasn't. It turned out Silver was mafia so I'm psychic.

Your mafia list is more like a list of all non-mafia in my opinion (apart from Jell).

If I was in Thomas' position I'd be annoyed. And what does Thomas do when people annoy him? (I'll give you a hint: He tries to kill them)

Secondly, you and nebneb didn't look to be partners of crime. So when I noticed that you voted to lynch Bmwsu, but you didn't even put him on your list of possible mafia people, well, it looked suspicious. Then there's also that you voted for him second, which really got the lynch rolling, oh and you didn't really provide any reasons. You seem to want people dead, not caring about what they are, but you don't appear to be mafia. That seems to indicate that you are independent. This was later backed up when you voted for DBX with almost no reasoning. You just wanted to lynch someone, without having the proper time to make a good decision. Independents don't really care who they kill.
Here's Thomas' possible list of mafia:
'Thomas' said:
Here's my list of possible mafia:
- Jellsprout
- Yaya
- Jazz
- nebnebben
- DeathBunni X (maybe)

There's more than 3 (or however many mafia there are) on the list because I can't settle yet on just 3 people.


And another thing that crossed my mind was that last game, jell didn't want to start off with a kill. He wanted to wait until day 2 to get the fireworks started. You, Thomas, were lucky to last to day 2 in the first mafia game, you're just happy that you made it past day 1. You're probably not going to last long, so obviously you'd kill someone if you were the independent.


Then on day 2, you said this:
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I'm not really suspicious of Jellsprout. I think nebnebben put a list of 5 non-mafia. Perhaps Jellsprout is independent?
"Hello, I'm an independent. To not look like I'm an independent I'm going to suggest that someone else is possibly independent to shift suspicion away from me."


I rest my case.

(When I said that it you were probably not mafia on day 2, I specifically didn't say that you were probably town because you were probably mafia, and I didn't want to go after you, because knowing that you were independent was an advantage that I would have had over the mafia)



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Well I'll eventually gladly post why Jellsprout and Yuggy were mafia and why you should have lynch both.
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Shoutouts:

CSD - Great game bro. You were the only one the legitimately had me scared. Though your reason for thinking I was mafia, my vote for Bmwsu, was false. I would have voted for Bmwsu even if I were Town.
Quirvy - Again, great game. You should have taken the gamble that final day and vote for me. Thomas would have joined, DBX would have joined and I think Harumbai would then also join the vote. Still, you showed great leadership during the game and prevented a stalemate on Day 2.
Thomas - You cost the Townies the game. Not Harumbai, not Quirvy, not Silver, you. It is not enough to know who is Mafia, you have to convince the Townies of it. Show exactly why you know so certain that they are Mafia. With your playstyle the best you can ever achieve is annoying people so much they won't ever agree with you.
Jazz, Bmwsu and others who had given up - Always respond if you are being voted on. It may feel like you can't others to change their vote, but if you don't even try you know you will get lynched for certain.
Nebnebben, Silver and Yuggy - Great job. Although it all didn't go perfectly, we still managed to pull out a win. Congratulations.

And finally,
Isa - Great game, great host. I really enjoyed it. But please, don't make me CSD again. I am getting a bit tired of that role. Next time just make me a vanilla Townie.


Spoiler:
Thomas
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Friday, July 1 2011, 7:48 am EST
the clique shall prevail

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Shoutouts:

CSD - I'll always follow you in mafia games from now on if you stop being a meanie.
Quirvy - You should have voted Jell/Yuggy.
Jellsprout - obvscum.
Jazz - Post more.
Guyguyxtreme - Good job for killing nebnebben.
Yaya -
Harumbai - I'm always town. When you are town you should try to look more like a townie rather than flying under the radar.
Silver - You are always mafia.
DeathBunni X - My apologies for voting for you on day 2. At least you tried to lynch Yuggy though... unlike [content deleted]
Nebnebben - obvscum.
Soccerboy13542 - I wish I had your role then I could win a mafia game.

And finally,
Isa - Next time you make roles don't listen to Jellsprout.

I wonder who posted the most in this game... me?
canadianstickdeath
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Friday, July 1 2011, 8:24 am EST

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'Jellsprout' said:
Though your reason for thinking I was mafia, my vote for Bmwsu, was false.

It wasn't that you voted for Bmwsu, it was how you did it that was the scummy thing. And then after I accused you, most everything you said pinged my scumdar in some way. It's too bad you can't really submit the "scumdar" as a sufficient evidence to lynch somebody.

And as much as I like to blame Thomas for things, if we're going to pick somebody that "cost the townies the game", my pick would have been Jazz. He had too important of a role to just go ahead and let himself be lynched like that. All he had to say was "Life Crate" and then we could have spent the day lynching somebody else. Instead he let us do the mafia's job for them.

I wish I had remembered this post by Silver on Day 3. I think if I had, I would have gone after her instead of Jazz.
'Silver' said:
Vote: DBX
Oh god there are so many arguments and stuff against DBX I can't exactly fathom my own. But I do agree with the fact that her explanations were flawed. Also, she's only going after Jell - aren't you going to go against someone else? Also,

FoS: Jell
Seems a little too smart for a Townie - but this is Jell I'm talking about. Aside from that horrible sentence, he seems to know quite a bit much about the Mafia, so I think it's possible he might be a Mafia. But I'm being loose and stupid here, I'm having a horrible day because I was abandoned by my friend.

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