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Thomas
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 7:53 pm EST
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@Jazz

'Thomas' said:
so is it against the rules to call somebody an ass when they're being one?


'Quirvy' said:
No, but it might be overkill to do it 3 times.
Quirvy
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 7:54 pm EST
  

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I can't say for sure since there's no context. If he's just PMing him saying that without bmwsu doing anything, I'd say so, but if there's an actual reason for why he's calling bmwsu an ass then technically I don't believe it's against the rules, even if it is a little rude.



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Thomas
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 7:55 pm EST
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This is why I pm'ed him:
'Bmwsu' said:
He is Thomas.  You can't expect anything good from him.
Quirvy
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 8:00 pm EST
  

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Oh, so when you were quoting him saying that, that was you showing us that's why you sent those PMs? I thought that was you  admitting that nothing good can be expected from you, and using that as an explanation for the PMs.

PMs still lack context, though.



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Thursday, July 21 2011, 8:03 pm EST

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I'm not going to say I was kind, but I wasn't saying anything bad at him.


shos
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 8:09 pm EST
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actually, if thomas(or anyone else, for this matter) would send me such a message without explaining or anything, I'd firstly ask immidiate reasoning, and if that's not enough(and it probably won't be) you're gonna be temporarily banned. these stuff are pretty obvious for a serious staff discussion, so I think immidiate suspension is something you should expect. for how long, well, that'll be decided after you're suspended, by the staff.


Thomas
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 8:29 pm EST
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Well shos, Bmwsu annoyed me with his "He is Thomas.  You can't expect anything good from him." post. If that's even a joke it's wayyyyy too old and it's just getting annoying. So I pm'ed him and it wasn't just a random pm I sent him. After I tried to talk to him then he's being annoying and he decided to post my messages here which is annoying too since I wanted to keep this in private messages.
Bmwsu
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 8:37 pm EST

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Last I checked, if somebody is annoying you, it's generally not a good idea to come out and boldly say how much of an idiot they are.  And Quirvy said I should post the "love" PM that I mentioned.
'Quirvy' said:
hey you should share that thoughtful letter with everyone on the random chat

Besides, I took a slight offense to it, because no matter how it's used, I am not a fan of swearing, especially when at somebody else.  You could have simply told me "Please don't say things like that.  It's kind of annoying, and I don't like it."


jazz
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 9:43 pm EST

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What, are we gonna need to go to court for this?

Thomas, if you're gonna stay here, you're gonna have to get used to being the butt of jokes.  It's what helps (repeat: helps) this community stay together.
Silver
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 10:42 pm EST

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What the HELL.

I think you guys are being way too hard on Thomas.
Quirvy
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Thursday, July 21 2011, 10:52 pm EST
  

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Because the word "ass" isn't censored, it technically isn't considered a swear word by interguild standards, just like hell and damn. If he gets suspended, I would think it would officially be for not respecting other members/sending malicious PMs.

But let me just get a few things out there first:

First of all, Thomas, if you're so tired of people making jokes about nothing good coming from you why don't you take yourself more seriously? Whenever you figure out that a specific person -1'd one of your posts, you go out of your way to tell them that you know it's them, and that you will get payback for that karma rate, and then you usually go on to actually -1 one of their posts, and then when someone berates you for it you criticize them because they're not being nice to you? I mean, come on, Thomas, I think if you get suspended, it should be for being a whiny hypocrite.

Next I'd like to point out that if you want to have a legitimate conversation with someone unrelated to them being an ass, you probably shouldn't start the conversation with "stop being an ass"

I think that the three PMs were taken a little bit out of context because they were presented right next to each other(not BMs fault). If Thomas had sent 3 PMs in a row saying "bm ur an ass" "stop beingg an ass" "im not sending you no more pms cuz ur an ass" then I'd be pretty mad, but at least he tried to have a conversation with bmwsu. With that said:
1. You seem to just want to be using the word ass just because you can. Next time, try saying more interesting things
2. I gave you a much worse runaround today in the PMs and you didn't call me an ass, and I am offended that bmwsu gets some special treatment where he can annoy you more easily than I can. Seriously, what's up with that?


For those curious, this is the runaround I gave Thomas:

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After that he gave up. No rude PMs or anything


I disagree with shos and don't think a suspension is warranted here, but you might want to think your actions though a little bit better in the future, Thomas.



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Thomas
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Friday, July 22 2011, 12:19 am EST
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'Quirvy' said:
First of all, Thomas, if you're so tired of people making jokes about nothing good coming from you why don't you take yourself more seriously? Whenever you figure out that a specific person -1'd one of your posts, you go out of your way to tell them that you know it's them, and that you will get payback for that karma rate, and then you usually go on to actually -1 one of their posts, and then when someone berates you for it you criticize them because they're not being nice to you? I mean, come on, Thomas, I think if you get suspended, it should be for being a whiny hypocrite.
These people are karma spammers and you won't take action so I will try instead to the best of my ability. That is, get revenge for a minus rate.

'Quirvy' said:
2. I gave you a much worse runaround today in the PMs and you didn't call me an ass, and I am offended that bmwsu gets some special treatment where he can annoy you more easily than I can. Seriously, what's up with that?
Yeah that stuff you said to me sure annoying me but I got mad at Bwmsu so fast because I have never really even talked to him or PMed him I believe and he posts false information about me (even if it may be a joke.) If I had talked to Bmwsu before or somebody else posted that and I had actually talked to this person before then I wouldn't really care.

Also I think this isn't the first time Bmwsu has posted false information about me in the chatbox.
Quirvy
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Friday, July 22 2011, 12:26 am EST
  

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'Thomas' said:
These people are karma spammers and you won't take action so I will try instead to the best of my ability. That is, get revenge for a minus rate.
The rate that you are referring to was on a post where you apparently violated the rules of a forum game by making 2 guesses in a row. -1ing someone for not abiding by forum game rules is not karma spamming.



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Thomas
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Friday, July 22 2011, 12:31 am EST
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He's probably a repeat offender so just assume I'm getting him back for some other rate he made against me.
jazz
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Friday, July 22 2011, 2:17 am EST

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Please, just STOP playing these childish games.
shos
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Friday, July 22 2011, 5:59 am EST
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thomas, seriously, you haev Karma: -449, hwo much do you really care about karma spammers?

the mods can interfere if they see any karma spam; but as quirvy said, you can also try being alittle more normal, it'll only do you good and if someone annoys you, pm them about it, don't curse them

i think my suspension would have ben 3 days for that.


Isa
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Friday, July 22 2011, 6:25 am EST
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Let it be known that the only reason "ass" isn't censored is because it'd censor words such as bass, assassination, mass, glass and so on.

Thomas, you're the worst offender here, not Bmwsu. You have minimum Karma because of posts like this, this and this. Do you see why you recieve negative karma for that or not?
jellsprout
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Friday, July 22 2011, 6:49 am EST
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What is wrong with donkeys?


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shos
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Friday, July 22 2011, 7:04 am EST
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'jellsprout' said:
What is wrong with donkeys?
hmm? nothing, it's just that Okapis are much better  


jellsprout
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Friday, July 22 2011, 7:29 am EST
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But is that enough reason to ban people for calling others donkeys?


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shos
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Friday, July 22 2011, 8:36 am EST
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<_>
I'm pretty sure that donkey isn't the meaning thomas meant, in that conotation..
anyways. it doesn't matter, people here should not be offending any others. if you don't like being called "a mindless bug", you shouldn't be called that way, even if it makes others laugh. if thomas doesn't want stuff to be going on, he should say it, and not respond with 'stop being an ass'.


Thomas
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Sunday, July 24 2011, 5:43 am EST
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'shos' said:
thomas, seriously, you haev Karma: -449, hwo much do you really care about karma spammers?
You're right my karma is really low and I don't care about my karma anymore. It's more annoying that you staff aren't enforcing your rules about karma spamming.

'shos' said:
the mods can interfere if they see any karma spam; but as quirvy said, you can also try being alittle more normal, it'll only do you good and if someone annoys you, pm them about it, don't curse them
Well as long as the staff are trying to make me look like an idiot with this avatar, "I am not Worthy of this User Profile" and other stuff I'm just going to be an idiot on this site. The joke is a year old and nobody is laughing anymore. Before the day people started spam rating me I was "acting normal."

'Isa' said:
Let it be known that the only reason "ass" isn't censored is because it'd censor words such as bass, assassination, mass, glass and so on.
I heard it was because it isn't considered a swear word on this site.

'Isa' said:
Thomas, you're the worst offender here, not Bmwsu. You have minimum Karma because of posts like this, this and this. Do you see why you recieve negative karma for that or not?
When I posted those posts I was expecting to get minus karma there but you didn't link to any posts where I fell victim to an unnoticed karma spam rating spree. Here's some examples: here and here. Do you see how I am spam rated?
jellsprout
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Sunday, July 24 2011, 6:05 am EST
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I have karma locked you, Thomas. I have gotten pretty sick of you complaining about losing karma, then other people minus karma'ing the complaining and then you accusing other people of spam rating and complaining again, so I have karma locked you. I will remove this lock once things have cooled down again.


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shos
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Sunday, July 24 2011, 6:47 am EST
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from your profile - "user profile - quirvy" lol. so uh, since I haven't really been here for the last 6 months, and don't know how/what has been done there, you're welcome to pm all your troubles to quirvy. now remember not to swear mate; it's legitimate to be angry at times at people, even if we're staff - we're humans. I was once quite mad about something here as well, don't remember what tho(it was in the old interguild). so hey, pick yourself up the floor, calm down, and no worries


Livio
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Sunday, July 24 2011, 4:29 pm EST

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what's this trend of people having avatars that are pictures of someone else? First CSD does it, and now Jazz. It's kinda annoying.

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