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Yaya
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Don't use big words, they're very scary and halloween was yesterday.



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so that means LOL isn't that scary?
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When was it?


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You've helped prove my point about this board. Now we've gone from drugs to how fear-inducing certain words are. Do not question the Random Chat board.



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'The Title' said:
****Random Chat****
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'Isa' said:
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does that include second-hand smoke?

public smoking ban FTW!


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too bad it'll never happen here. People will start freaking out about how their freedoms are being suppressed....

Speaking of cigarettes, I always thought that it was unfair business practice to sell anything that gets your customers addicted to your products. But I guess people care too much about their freedom that lets them give up their freedom like that...
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'Cedric_09_' said:
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True, but wasn't that sort of a non-sequiter?


This is coming from the person who would randomly post "*subject change*" when the topic did not please him...

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Yeah...

*subject change*

Hugebutt184... LOL



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Monday, November 2 2009, 2:00 am EST
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lol, do you think a huge butt can smoke by itself? :O


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Monday, November 2 2009, 12:04 pm EST
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Don't buy drugs, kids. Become a rockstar, and you'll get them for free!
And alcohol ftw.


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'jellsprout' said:
Don't buy drugs, kids. Become a rockstar, and you'll get them for free!
And alcohol ftw.


I support the right to legally buy any drug, whether it be wacky baccy, smack or crystal meth - I think that there will be less crime from illegal dealing and higher rehabilitation rates. Drug addicts will only be able to take drugs in special state-owned clinics where they have better connections with therapists and have greater control over their drug-taking - therefore, they'll be able to slowly reduce their intake to zero without being tempted by drugs on the outside. People won't be stealing, killing and working in the red light district for drugs when they can get them for cheap prices from the government. I'm still not overly sure whether this will counterbalance the small group of people who think it'll be okay to try drugs once they're legal, but I'd take that risk. I believe that, in the future, there will be no need for drugs anyway as everyone will have a permanent heightened sense of mood through brain implants. The argument against this idea would be: if people are always happy, wouldn't they lose all incentive to do anything? Controversial paragraph, right there - discuss.
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Talking about the red light district, I support that too.


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I support legalizing drugs through the government. It'd cut down crime and the government would make money. Some specialists say that crack and other drugs can help you.  



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I support non-addictive drugs such as mariuhana and XTC. I'm opposed to addictive drugs such as cocaine. I support weak alcoholic beverages such as beer and wine for 16 year olds and strong liquors for 18 year olds. I am opposed to tabacco. I support prostitution. I support abortion. I support gay marriage. I am strongly opposed to any form of religion in politics or law.
What did I forget?


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Lol Jell. You opinions almost exactly match mine.



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Although I believe that safe marijuana use (vaporisation) in moderation (like alcohol) is perfectly okay as a treat, but it can have damaging effects on a person's life if used regularly. In my opinion, it's a big no-no when you're in education: it can make you lazy and hamper your memory. If it were to be legalised without including the big-government-owned-drug-houses idea, I think there should be a high age limit on the drug - probably 21. There are also detrimental health effects such as psychotic illness and lung damage, but I think the latter is reduced greatly when the drug is vaporised. There is supposedly a 15% chance of getting addicted to the drug - marijuana can be addictive, I know this for a fact having seen countless people get psychologically dependent on it. Easier to get off it than hard drugs though.

I oppose all forms of smoking - I find it a disgusting habit that destroys peoples' bodies and ruins social environments. If you're going to use marijuana or similar drugs, vaporise it. Make that a law if necessary. If people are really worried about weed making people lazy at work, then put the age limit up to 65 so the elderly can have a fun time enjoying the various medicinal benefits while they're retired. I also believe that the stronger marijuana variants such as White Widow should be banned - there should be a maximum limit on how much THC a plant produces. Perhaps there should be only one state-grown type of plant that can be used by all.

And don't ask how I know all this.
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I partially support prostitution. I think it is wrong that women often use this as a last resort when they are scraping against the poverty line or in need of drugs - this shouldn't be necessary. Women should only go into this business if they actually WANT to do it and that they have an interest in... the subject. There should be some kind of welfare agency that these women can go into if they don't like what they're having to do.
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'jellsprout' said:
I support non-addictive drugs such as mariuhana and XTC. I'm opposed to addictive drugs such as cocaine. I am opposed to tabacco. I support prostitution. I support abortion. I support gay marriage. I am strongly opposed to any form of religion in politics or law.
What did I forget?


Word.

I am very restrictive when it comes to alcohol, though, so I disagree with you there.
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Here in the Netherlands, you need to license to become a prostitute. That combined with proper social support should prevent women form going into prostitution as a last resort. The real problem are women dealers, who force women into prostitutio against their will.

It is best for alcohol to be introduced in two fases, first with weak liquors and next with strong liquors. The biggest problems come from people going all wodka on their first time. They haven't build a resistance against it yet, they don't know their own limits and they don't know how it feels to be drunk, so they will drink far too much strong liquors at first. By first only allowing them to drink weaker liquors, they should get more experienced.


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I agree with most of what you guys are saying, but I don't support prostitution at all. If anything, I think they should crack down on it more than they currently are (in North America, anyway). It would force women to find other alternatives to get money without the part where their lives and self-worth spiral downwards and crash into the side of a mountain.

And yeah, if alcohol and cigarettes are legal, marijuana should be as well. I've had some experience with all three and can testify that marijuana is the least damaging of them. We actually did a study on the legalization of marijuana in one of my courses and the general consensus we reached was that it will be made legal within the next couple decades, when newer and more liberal minds come in to power. Who knows, though; people really like to keep to tradition.

I have a friend who does cocaine, though, and judging from him and how he treats it... yeah, it should remain illegal.
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yeah I don't believe that women fall into prostitution because they are poor. The fact that they need money is more of a "temptation" to go into prostitution, but it's never simply a matter of survival-- there are other alternatives. I heard that there are people who can't even get out of prostitution even though they already have enough money because for some it's an addiction.

And yeah, there's a couple bad sides to making things illegal. Suddenly everything gets pushed underground and people who need help the most are suddenly less likely to get it. But then again, it's not like everything can be fixed by simply making everything legal. Maybe we can make every substance legal, but make it illegal to be addicted to any of them? If you are caught breaking that law, then you're sent to rehab? But then we'd also have to deal with the businesses selling those drugs. It'll sure be one dirty "industry" to deal with.

Conclusion: if only drugs never existed. they just ruin everything...

when it comes to how society should treat drugs and stuff, I'm not really sure, since things get complicated. But personally, I would just tell you all to stay away from that kind of stuff. It just always seemed gross to me. Smoking is 100% bad for you and 0% good for you, and it's not like it makes you feel better or anything. Alcohol always smelled really bad, and I'd prefer if my brain wasn't potentially damaged from drinking it, even if it's just "short-term side effects". And all this stuff has the potential to get you addicted to it (well, I guess you only get addicted to alcohol if you drink enough of it, like how people get addicted to coffee), and I don't feel like giving up my life for any addiction...

So that's why I've made the bold decision to not even try alcohol or anything for the rest of my life. *is noble* I kinda sound like a little kid talking but seriously, all that stuff grosses me out...
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So that's why I've made the bold decision to not even try alcohol


Support.

Regarding prostitution, here in Sweden, we got some odd laws, meant to protect the women: It isn't illegal to be a prostitute, but to make use of their services is illegal. Very odd.
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I said I'd never drink alcohol, but light drinking helped me fit in initially at college (regarding nights out etc.). A little conformity never hurt anyone - though generally, I despise it. I'm still not a fan of the stuff though and stick to cider only - I find beer rather nauseating after the first pint.  
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speaking of college, how is it that people can go through all the trouble of spending thousands of dollars for college, and the next thing you know, they skip classes, party like crazy, and basically waste their money? Or I guess that happens when your parents force you to go to college.

hey this random chat topic has finally gotten interesting lately
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One should NOT have to pay for education. College should be free as it is here in Sweden.
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Yeah I was thinking the same thing. But it's more complicated than that. Paying actually produces competition which forces colleges to be better. That competition actually makes up for the lack of quality that the regular public schools have. So if we ever want to make all education free, we seriously need to figure out how to increase the quality of public schools. Or maybe just have government pay your fees....

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