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Quote: This is only the second time I'm playing this game and I'm still learning. First timer here.
I disagree, I think that the third day was the biggest disaster. Jazz made us blind when he refused to provide legitimate counterarguments, and as a result the day was all about her.
At least on day 2, despite you were blinded by being attempted at lynched, we managed to prevent DBX from getting lynched, and got the independent instead. I wasn't focusing all of my attention onto keeping you 2 alive, I had been looking at guyguy and Thomas that day, seeing Thomas' posts as continued signs of him being the independent, and seeing guyguy's posts as being continuing to be suspicious. I wanted to break up the fight between you 2 because I had my suspicions that CSD knew DBX's role and wasn't letting us in on that he knew her role, whether it be mafia or town, and I wasn't convinced you were mafia, and that even if you were you were not going to get lynched.
Had CSD chose jazz, I probably would have gone with it, but if he chose Thomas or soccerboy I would have probably defended them and gone after guyguy.
Guyguy may have got lynched for a reason, too. CSD seemingly picked him randomly, but I suspect he chose guyguy because guyguy suspected you and then turned around and jumped onto your bandwagon. CSD may have suspected that he was the person most likely to be your partner in crime. I know I had that suspicion, and was very shocked to find he was the man I thought thomas was. Guyguy brushed it off because CSD didn't provide any reasoning, but unfortunately for guyguy I'd been watching him very closely since day 2 began, and had quite a bit more to go on. CSD may have also picked up that I had more to go on him than anyone else by the post I made where I tried to split you two up. I started with guyguy and what I said about him was more incriminating than the others.
I'm not using harumbai not voting day 1 as evidence of him being town, he never got the chance to vote because of how fast it happened.
Also silver hasn't been on since last Sunday. What happens if she doesn't show?
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We wait until the end of today to decide what will happen if Silver doesn't show. I don't think it is wise at this point in the game to vote based on inactivity.
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No, I'm not saying we should vote for her, I mean, what should we do if she doesn't show up at all?
It isn't fair to us if this late in the game, a member that may be mafia or may be vital to finding out who is never shows up for the most important day up to this point. It's too early right now, but if she doesn't show up in a few days should we have someone (yuggy?) take her place? It's not like we have all the time in the world here, each day only lasts 10 days, we can't wait until 7 days in to decide she's not going to show up and she'll need to be replaced. If she had been online sometime in the week, I'd have no problem with waiting longer to bring it up, but she hasn't been online since Sunday when we lynched jazz. Ever since that day she hasn't even been on the interguild at all, not just talking about the mafia game.
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Well... all the inactive people from this and last game ended up being townies so that's not really a good way.
So...
1. Jellsprout - Lots of accusations and evidence, crusades again Quirvy - My opinion: Either him or Quirvy is mafia
2. Harumbai - Only one post today. In my opinion, he is probably suspicious. I mean, the mafia would at least post a LITTLE bit. The arrow crate role is a pretty good shield too... since I can't kill in the night I can't try killing him, but if I did I'd take the risk.
3. Silver - Nothing so far... hmm
4. Thomas - I already mentioned that his role is very fishy.
5. DeathBunni X - Proven innocent
6. Quirvy - Lots of accusation and evidence, crusades against Jell (like me earlier) - My opinion: Either him or Jell is mafia.
So in the end my opinions on mafia are
Harumbai and Thomas. And minor suspicions on both Jell and Quirvy.
FoS: Harumbai
FoS: Thomas
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I'm not talking, "inactive" as in, "You need to post more" I'm talking inactive as in she hasn't been on the interguild in a week. That is totally unrelated to whether or not she's mafia.
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'Quirvy' said: 4. Thomas - I already mentioned that his role is very fishy. I can see why you would think that because even I thought my role was weird when I got it and I read it over many times. But I haven't been killed at night yet (only because mafia didn't target me yet) and I have posted at least 5 times each day. Even with my struggle to post 5 times before leaving for Cuba and you don't believe my role?
'DeathBunni X' said: 5. DeathBunni X - Proven innocent I don't want to think you are proven innocent because I still think it's possible you two could be linked in a one mafia and one townie role. But there's a 90% chance you are town. The only way to be 100% sure would be to lynch (I'm not saying we should lynch you.) | | Quirvy |
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For clarification, in the above post, "Quirvy said" should read "DBX said"
and if you are town, the reason you haven't been killed yet is because the mafia have always been expecting you to screw up and get yourself lynched by doing stupid things like voting for people only because they annoy you, or suggesting that the only way to know whether or not DBX is town for sure is to lynch her
spooky secret | | Isa |
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'Quirvy' said: No, I'm not saying we should vote for her, I mean, what should we do if she doesn't show up at all?
It isn't fair to us if this late in the game, a member that may be mafia or may be vital to finding out who is never shows up for the most important day up to this point. It's too early right now, but if she doesn't show up in a few days should we have someone (yuggy?) take her place? It's not like we have all the time in the world here, each day only lasts 10 days, we can't wait until 7 days in to decide she's not going to show up and she'll need to be replaced. If she had been online sometime in the week, I'd have no problem with waiting longer to bring it up, but she hasn't been online since Sunday when we lynched jazz. Ever since that day she hasn't even been on the interguild at all, not just talking about the mafia game.
7 days of inactivity forces a replacement, for future games I think this should be cut down, or the days extended.
Anyway, should Silver not show up (and it's not unlikely considering her new subtitle), I think Yuggy wants to join? Yuggy, if you see this, tell me if you're still interested. | | Quirvy |
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7 days of inactivity from the site, or just while the game is going on? because we're nearing her 7th day of total inactivity.
spooky secret | | Isa |
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Site activity. Night actions etc. | | Harumbai |
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'DeathBunni X' said:
So...
1. Jellsprout - Lots of accusations and evidence, crusades again Quirvy - My opinion: Either him or Quirvy is mafia This is not neccessarily true by any means.
2. Harumbai - Only one post today. In my opinion, he is probably suspicious. I mean, the mafia would at least post a LITTLE bit. The arrow crate role is a pretty good shield too... since I can't kill in the night I can't try killing him, but if I did I'd take the risk.
3. Silver - Nothing so far... hmm Lets see, Harumbai not posting much, ooh that's so suspicious, Silver not posting at all, yeah that's fine...
4. Thomas - I already mentioned that his role is very fishy.
5. DeathBunni X - Proven innocent Yeah you're only going to kill us all in 2 days time.
6. Quirvy - Lots of accusation and evidence, crusades against Jell (like me earlier) - My opinion: Either him or Jell is mafia.
If you think that either Jell or Quirvy is Mafia why aren't you suspicious of them?
I don't think I would have voted on Day 1 even if I had arrived a bit earlier (I can't be sure though). I don't think it would be in my best interests, I didn't think that the arguments were based on enough and I probably would have posted saying that I wasn't confident enough to vote because saying nothing is probably equally suspicious.
At the moment I feel Silver is the best choice for lynching. She has been suspicious to me for a while, and I will be interested to see what her role is to see if it makes sense. I think her inactivity could easily be planned. She's smart enough to stall time by saying she couldn't come on for ages and invent a reason about her sister/brother needing to do research for school or something equally impossible to argue against even if it is a lie. Her unwillingness to contribute ideas to the game also makes me feel that she is possibly mafia and at least the most suspicious here.
I am also suspicious of Thomas because of:
Quote: @nebnebben
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Your mafia list is more like a list of all non-mafia in my opinion (apart from Jell).
He was on the list and it could be that he felt worried about his inclusion on it so made a blanket statement saying that he thought it was wrong.
The list could have even included two mafia and that would especially justify his statement. So maybe Jell or Silver who are also on the list are Mafia. But the "(Apart from Jell)" could be an attempt to cover up both of them, but still seem isolated from his teammate Jell.
Any thoughts?
FoS: Silver
FoS: Thomas
FoS: Jell
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I'd like to point out that lynching the seriously inactive never got us a mafiat...
Plus I didn't FoS Quirvy and Jell because that'd be almost everyone and that's overkill to me.
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I'd wait on Silver's replacement before we claim her to be out best option to lynch. We need to figure out what role she was and what she can tell us.
spooky secret | | DeathBunni X |
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If we wait before we know it there's gonna be a few hours left and we lynch another townie.
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No, Isa said that it's 7 days of total inactivity for her to get replaced. She should get replaced some time very soon, since she hasn't been on since last sunday
spooky secret | | Thomas |
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@Harumbai
Well here's nebnebben's possible mafia list:
-Jellsprout
-Quirvy
-Bwmsu
-Silver
- Thomas
As I said in my post before nebnebben's Jellsprout was on my possible mafia list. I was confident Quirvy was town. I expected Bwmsu to be town and I didn't really have an opinion on Silver. Last but not least (or mafia) was me and knowing I was town and I felt the majority of the persons on that list were town so I made that statement and I wanted to see his reaction so I made that post but nebnnebben didn't say anything to that post.
I'm going to
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Quote: I was confident Quirvy was town LIES, you had no reason to suspect that at that point in the game. All I had done was make joke accusations at you, and suspected people, claimed it was for a reason, but did not share.
You're not helping yourself by telling us you voted for someone you didn't even think was mafia.
Quote: I wanted to see his reaction so I made that post Also lies. When I called 4 people out on being likely to be mafia/independent, and said I had a reason and didn't provide any reason that was to see their reactions. What type of a reaction do you expect from someone by saying, "I disagree with your list" and what will you get from it?
I also find it suspicious how polite you were to nebneb the entire day 1 when he was bashing you over the head for the joke suspicions that we were throwing at eachother.
spooky secret | | Thomas |
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My apologies Quirvy. Lynch me then. | | Thomas |
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But Quirvy if I was mafia I wouldn't be saying that I think you're town. Unless we were both mafia which we aren't. | | DeathBunni X |
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Thomas, you're acting up again. You know we can't lynch you because we still have NINE days left. More and more suspicious...
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Well I'm just proving to not be a mafia because a mafia would not say that. | | Quirvy |
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'Thomas' said: But Quirvy if I was mafia I wouldn't be saying that I think you're town. unless you wanted to gain my trust
'Thomas' said: Well I'm just proving to not be a mafia because a mafia would not say that. which is why you would...
spooky secret | | Thomas |
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Quirvy do you think I'm mafia? And is this the first time you played a mafia game? | | Quirvy |
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Undecided and yes.
spooky secret | | Thomas |
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Okay well let's stop wasting time trying to build on suspicions of somebody who isn't mafia (me) and build suspicions on somebody who may be mafia (Jellsprout, Silver). | | |
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