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Quirvy
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Wednesday, June 15 2011, 6:24 pm EST
  

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'Thomas' said:
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You think Thomas is really capable of defending himself properly? He sucks at it, he sucked at it last game, if he's town now, he'll suck at it again. Actually he's kind of already sucked at it.
I'm bad at defending but good at knowing who's town and who's mafia. So keep defending me Quirvy.
Are you sure about that? I seem to recall you voting for DBX on day 2, for Bmwsu on day one, and for jazz as well on day 3.



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Wednesday, June 15 2011, 6:31 pm EST
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On day 1 I voted for Bmwsu and I knew he would be town. Removing him from the game was a good thing.
On day 2 I voted because for DBX without even reading all the posts. I wanted a lynch that day and I wasn't sure if I would get internet back before the deadline to make a vote at a later date. * I only had 3 minutes left on the computer in Cuba when I posted
On day 3 I voted for Jazz because he was top suspicious and it was close to the day deadline.

Quirvy, just vote for Jellsprout then. If I'm wrong you can suspend me for 999 hours/days. If you had to vote right now who would you vote for?
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Irrelevant. I don't need to vote right now.



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Thursday, June 16 2011, 3:01 am EST
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Quirvy is right, we still have 4 days, so we still have a couple of days to chose who to lynch, and it has to be mafia or we lose.
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'Thomas' said:
^ Swing and miss. As I already stated, I am town aligned.

As I stated, there is a very good possibility that you are Mafia and that I am Town. Isn't that odd and conflicting?
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I'm bad at defending but good at knowing who's town and who's mafia. So keep defending me Quirvy.

You have suspected Yaya, DBX and Jazz on Day 1. You have voted for Bmwsu, Jazz, DBX and Guyguy. You may say you are good at knowing who's Mafia, but the facts state otherwise.

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There was a mafia mistake here. Yuggy, it's suspicious how fast you jumped on the bandwagon and vote for me. Harumbai's post wasn't even convincing at all. This tells me that you are trying to prevent either yourself or your fellow Mafia member from making a mistake this day. You want to end this day early so we won't have the time to figure out who the Mafia actually are. That is as suspicious as you can get. Furthermore, when I make the first vote you don't vote next because Jellsprout is mafia but when somebody votes for me, a townie you jump in way too early, and for bad reasons.

You mean like here? Your other votes the previous three days also have had some excellent thoughts behind them. As had your suggestion to end the day early on Day 3. Everything you accuse Yuggy of being guilty of, you are guilty of as well. So if this makes Yuggy so obviously Mafia, what does it make you?


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Thursday, June 16 2011, 6:08 pm EST
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Well if there's no discussion let's vote for Jell right now!

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Quirvy is right, we still have 4 days, so we still have a couple of days to chose who to lynch, and it has to be mafia or we lose.
Not necessarily because the mafia kill could fail. But you being mafia knows it won't fail right?
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Well the mafia doesn't have a detective anymore so they're shooting blind, besides the role confessions we made today.


  
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Thursday, June 16 2011, 6:10 pm EST
  

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but most likely we'll lose if we get it wrong. But, yeah, no pressure or anything.



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Thursday, June 16 2011, 6:11 pm EST
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@Quirvy

If you don't want to get it wrong vote for Jellsprout. Or Yuggy.
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Thursday, June 16 2011, 6:20 pm EST
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Well I want to give Yuggy time to make a defence out of what Silver left him, and Jell also give good activity to this game. Meanwhile, you've had over a week and no defence besides "Well, he made a worse mistake!" or "It's not my fault I have the weirdest role in the book!"

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Thursday, June 16 2011, 7:00 pm EST
  

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You're waiting for yuggy to give a defense so in the mean time you're going to lynch someone else?



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Thursday, June 16 2011, 7:03 pm EST
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I meant tomorrow


  
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Thursday, June 16 2011, 7:06 pm EST
  

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You're waiting for him to give you a defense by tomorrow? Why not today?



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There are like 2 (readl) days left and Silver didn't give evidence for or against herself, which makes it more iffy than Thomas.


  
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Thursday, June 16 2011, 8:02 pm EST
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Well 2 townies have votes against me and appear to have no interest in lynching Jellsprout or Silver and mafia won't be voting for themselves to be lynched so game over mafia wins again. You are all welcome to lynch me but I don't recommend this and I strongly recommend that you lynch Jellsprout.
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Friday, June 17 2011, 12:12 am EST
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Here's an illustration of what I mean:
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Friday, June 17 2011, 12:27 am EST
  

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that's actually kind of funny because the 2 people apparently trying to kill you don't have any votes against you yet.

Anyways, I'd still suggest someone unvote Thomas. We've still got like 4 days left(17th(today), 18th, 19th and 20th)



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Friday, June 17 2011, 12:32 am EST
  

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Hey, Thomas, why do you specifically want to lynch jellsprout? Why not Yuggy? Sure CSD has been claiming that we should lynch him since day 2, but wouldn't you say that yuggy looks even more suspicious since he was the one to bandwagon vote you? Additionally he's much less capable of defending himself than Jell is, by attacking jell instead of yuggy, aren't you setting yourself up for failure here? What is it about jellsprout that makes you want to lynch him more than yuggy?



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Friday, June 17 2011, 12:35 am EST
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Well I'm more suspicious of Jellsprout than I'm suspicious of Yuggy. But now that I think of it, it will be easier to convince people to lynch Yuggy than to lynch Jellsprout so I will:
Unvote: Jellsprout
Vote: Yuggy
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Friday, June 17 2011, 1:16 am EST
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Hey Harumbai if we lynch Yuggy and he's mafia then you should use your night action to kill yourself and Jellsprout then town will win.
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Harumbai and DBX should unvote you regardless, unless the other's already unvoted. If Thomas and harumbai both aren't mafia, then the mafia can pretty much end this game with their votes.

Also that's ridiculously stupid, perhaps you forgot about what happened last time a night action was aimed to kill a mafia overlord? Harumbai remembers it, it was back when Yaya's arrow crate was aimed at him, but he still didn't die because he was immune to night kills. If jell was the only one left, he probably wouldn't die.



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Friday, June 17 2011, 1:46 am EST
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So the godfather will only die from a lynch? Then we can take out Yuggy today and Jellsprout tomorrow.
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You ever heard of a love triangle? Well we got ourselves a hate triangle. We've got 3 suspicious people, and all of them are pointing the finger at the other two.

Jellsprout want to lynch Thomas, and thinks Yuggy is his accomplice.
Yuggy wants to lynch Thomas, and thinks Jell is his accomplice.
Thomas wants to lynch Jell(even though he just switched over to yuggy) and thinks yuggy is his accomplice.

When you look at their roles, they all look equally as bad.
Jell claims to be part of the crate alliance, but his character isn't even a crate(/tile in hatpc, because technically, DBX is not a crate either), and his role is one that could have been jacked off of soccerboy when he got janitored.
Thomas has by far the dumbest role I've ever heard of, where his role is based around the idea that at night only the mafia can kill him, and that he needs to post a lot.
Yuggy's role is similar to Harumbai, and Harumbai's role seems more solid than his(He can suicide himself and kill someone, has a night action where he aims himself at someone). Yuggy's role could easily be a left-over, like how last game the mafia was provided a list of people not used in the game.


So of course, no matter where you look, they all look suspicious.

Everything(well, most things) to come out of Thomas' mouth has been stupid and flawed.
Yuggy jumped on Harumbai's bandwagon when he voted for Thomas in a way that seems to indicate he wanted the day over.
Jell is just suspicious in general and I don't trust him, because even though most of what he says makes sense, he's smarter than all of us. He may be able to come up with excuses for most things if not everything we throw at him, but would you expect him not to?


Anyways, it's too late for me to really delve into who we should lynch, but here's a compilation of the posts made by Thomas, nebneb, jell and Silver that is about or to eachother, or relevant, cuz I threw in Silver's unvote of DBX.


Day 1

Silver - inb4 Thomas saying we should lynch me
nebneb -  Also I think suspecting Thomas is a bit much after just one exclamation mark, maybe its just the rivalry between you?
Thomas - @nebnebben I think we should lynch somebody who does not post here often.
Thomas - @nebnebben People who don't post often are likely trying to hide something so they can be suspects. It doesn't mean somebody who posts a lot isn't a suspect at all tough but it's a way to build a list of suspects.
Sprout - I also have this urge to vote for Thomas already just because he is already starting to annoy me, but I suppose I'll start a bit more serious this time. If he gets too annoying I can always vote for him later.
nebneb - Thomas and Quirvy are either just normally arguing or (possibly) are both Mafia and are arguing so no-one suspects they are together. Also Thomas is making loads of crazy accusations to try and stir up suspicion against not mafia. That or he's just trolling. To be honest though, this is just a guess, and I don't have any evidence to support any really conclusive theories.
Sprout - I doubt it. Thomas acted like this the previous game and Quirvy just loves bickering with Thomas. That said, I wouldn't mind Thomas getting lynched.
Thomas - We do this all the time like in the chatbox but usually through PM's. Everyday Quirvy sends me an Interguild warning message with a dumb warning reason then I just reply with something stupid so it's basically similar to what is on the first page of this forum topic.
Thomas - (to neb) Soccerboy is sick and Bwmsu has been working on minecraft but he should post soon to avoid suspicion because he has been online. All he has done is post stuff in the chatbox like "MAFIA!  MAFIAMAFIAMAFIA!".
Silver - (to me) I'd like to know why as well, Quirvy. After all, if you don't give a reason people will just demand/ask for one anyway, plus it makes you more suspicious.
Thomas - @Silver Don't just pick on Quirvy, CSD had the same suspicions too and I sort of have a feeling Jazz could be mafia too.
Thomas - @nebnebben You need to bold your FOS's and votes for them to count. You should also provide a reason for your FOS and votes. In the last mafia game I FOSed Silver and put no reasons then I got lynched because people thought I was mafia when I wasn't. It turned out Silver was mafia so I'm psychic.

Your mafia list is more like a list of all non-mafia in my opinion (apart from Jell).
Silver - Thomas, you just won't live it down will you.

FoS: Thomas - I'm actually not all that sure WHY, but I do agree that he's acting slightly annoying, also the OHGODSILVERISMAFIAIWASRIGHT thing.
Quirvy - Oh BTW if I die tonight it is my dying wish that you lynch thomas thomorrow.
Jellsprout - Same here.

Day 2
Thomas - I'm not really suspicious of Jellsprout. I think nebnebben put a list of 5 non-mafia. Perhaps Jellsprout is independent?
Thomas - Why are people no longer suspicious of CSD? I thought it was suspicious how he argued against how Quirvy said nebnebben's mafia list is likely all town.
Sprout - I am first waiting for CSD to respond to my post before making any solid accusations. I have made it clear in my previous post that I find his accusations to be very odd.
Thomas - (@Sprout) Yep that's why I think he mafia. He should go back on Quirvy's list of people to investigate further in my opinion.
Silver - FoS: Jell
Seems a little too smart for a Townie - but this is Jell I'm talking about. Aside from that horrible sentence, he seems to know quite a bit much about the Mafia, so I think it's possible he might be a Mafia. But I'm being loose and stupid here, I'm having a horrible day because I was abandoned by my friend.
Silver - I don't actually know anymore, to keep my vote for DBX or not, I've actually been swayed by all this talk so

Unvote: DBX

...Gah. Like this will change anything. Why am I trying
Sprout - I don't think we should lynch Thomas. Not only is a bit unfair to lynch him now at a time when he can't defend himself, I seriously doubt he is mafia. He doesn't act suspicious or anything, and he is active enough to keep things interesting.
Sprout - Guyguy and Silver have all quiet today. They've made a few posts, but nothing they said really added to the discussion or helped to discover the mafia. They were mostly just repeating things already said or stating the obvious. They appear to be avoiding the spotlights the most.

Day 3
Sprout - As for Jazz and Silver, my opinion hasn't really changed on them since the previous day. They really need to step up a bit.
Sprout - Quirvy and Thomas have been acting more odd than usual towards each other. Not such that I suspect them, but it almost seems as if Isa gave them husband and wife roles or something.
Thomas - Silver is near the top of my suspicious persons list because of her posts. In almost all her posts I remember she has some strange excuse like she said many times something like "I haven't been posting much guys!" then in her most recent post she said her mom was bugging her to get off the computer. She's 'flying under the radar'. I am voting for either you or Jazz today unless something big comes up.
Silver @ Thomas - You're not the brightest crayon in the box, are you? Read this: I am 12, the holidays are over, I have school, I have VERY limited computer time these days. The fact I am in intermediate with a lot of homework, plus many busy things to do such as swimming and diving, does not help. At all. My excuse for not contributing much is, simply put, real life, and if it was not in the way so much I could contribute more. My last post was made at about 10:00 PM and it was my bedtime and my mum was flying over the moon just to get me off so I could sleep and get to school early enough the next day. Oh and the fact I like, visit about 100 websites a day doesn't do it very well at all.
So I have a very good reason for my absence, so knock me off that suspicious list of yours unless you have other good reasons. If you can't believe that then I seriously think a doctor is in order.


Something else to contribute before I go... I can't really think of anything, but just a couple of FoS. I can't explain them now, but I will explain them later, and I will go read those other posts.

FoS: Thomas
Thomas @ Silver - I read the first 5 words of that spoiler then I gave up. It looks like that posting streak where you talk about not posting enough hasn't ended yet.


Anyways, have fun sifting through it, and please someone unvote thomas.



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Unvote: Thomas

Fine, fine.

So who, yuggy or jell? I think we should lynch yuggy, since he isn't contributing much anyway.


  
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Now here is what I find odd. Thomas has had 2 votes for him for 14 hours. I have been online in that time, Quirvy has been online in that time and Yuggy has been online in that time. Thomas only needed two more votes and every Mafia suspect had been online in that time, yet nothing happened. If both Mafia members hadn't voted yet, it would be obvious that they would have rushed the vote and win the game. This gives us 4 different conclusions:
1. Thomas is Mafia and his Mafia partner didn't vote for him to protect him.
2. Thomas is Mafia, his Mafia partner voted for him to ensure that this partner would be safe, but because both Quirvy and I wanted to lengthen this day as much as possible they couldn't complete the lynch.
3. Thomas is Town, but one Mafia member had already voted for him and the second Mafia member didn't want to vote until the lynch was certain.
4. The Mafia screwed up.

If 1 is the case, this means that Thomas and either Yuggy or Quirvy are the two Mafia members. I don't think Quirvy is Mafia, so that leaves our Mafia team as Yuggy and Thomas.
If 2 is the case, this means that Thomas and either DBX or Harumbai are the two Mafia members. I don't think DBX is Mafia, so that leaves our Mafia team as Thomas and Harumbai.
If 3 is the case, this means that either DBX or Harumbai and either Yuggy or Quirvy are the two Mafia members. Again removing Quirvy and DBX as our suspects, this means that Harumbai and Yuggy are our Mafia.

Now, we've had this situation before, when both Harumbai and Yuggy had voted for Thomas. This makes it unlikely that both Thomas and Yuggy are Mafia. That would mean that they first were going with plan 2, but for some reason decided to stop this after Quirvy's comment and go with plan 1 instead. I find this a bit odd.
That leaves our team at either Harumbai and Thomas or Harumbai and Yuggy. I'm leaning towards Harumbai and Yuggy, but we need to make this day as long as possible to be certain on this.


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