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Thomas
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 4:15 am EST
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'jellsprout' said:
Thomas, you are one to talk. Nearly all of your posts this game have been telling people to post or vote more, or saying person X is so obviously scummy, without actually trying to convince anyone of it. You accuse other people of contributing too little, when you yourself have barely contributed anything at all. It's time to get your head out of the clouds and actually start putting some effort into this game.
Yet I've still made useful posts unlike you. So no, I have not "barely contributed anything at all." And one-liners is normal for me, lurking from you is not.

Snipereborn, updated reads from you? On D2, you had jellsprout as "null." What, since then, has made you vote him and therefore have him as scum?

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Sunday, October 14 2012, 7:00 am EST
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It depends on how useful you think "Mod: Prod Silver please" is.


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Sunday, October 14 2012, 7:07 am EST

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you have barely contributed Thomas, at least if you don't count your contribution for the mafia.
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 10:44 am EST
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The same can be said for you, Flash


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OH WOW ZING ZING ZING I AM SO OFFENDED

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Jorster
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 1:32 pm EST
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Stupid, plays really badly:
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FlashMarsh
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 2:00 pm EST

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wow

I thought you were the voice of reason in this game
i can't believe youd do somethinf like that

its no like we've tried to lynch you lots of times, and nearly done it
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Vote: Jellsprout

If the only way to get the game moving is to support something I'm not fully convinced by, then **** this ****. I'm not gonna be stupid and I'll certainly question anyone who wants to lynch you at this point, but you're not innocent enough to not earn my vote.

It doesn't even matter, assuming this same gridlock/inactivity will remain, there will be no viable player to lynch you. Putting my vote on someone I kinda suspect is better than getting piled for holding my vote.



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Yaya
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 2:13 pm EST

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He's at L-1 in case you didn't pick up on it.



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FlashMarsh
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 2:28 pm EST

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oh please god no don't put him a l-1
jellsprout
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 4:00 pm EST
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I don't understand what you're trying to accomplish here. I have already explained everything that needs to be explained, Yuggy and Shavey appear to be lying somewhere in a ditch and Harumbai isn't stupid enough to lynch me. Putting me at L-1 accomplishes nothing. Are you hoping Shavey make a surprise appearance and try another mistake hammer? And do you hope my Town flip will somehow bring more activity in this game? Good luck with that. Harumbai is avoiding posting, Yuggy and Shavey have mysteriously vanished from the face of the Earth, Jorster and Darvince haven't made a meaningful contribution all game, FlashMarsh is just trolling along and Thomas's idea of contribution is "Mod: Poke Silver please". With me lynched, all discussion will be between you and Sniper, and I think you will get tired of each other pretty soon.


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Sunday, October 14 2012, 6:38 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
'jellsprout' said:
Thomas, you are one to talk. Nearly all of your posts this game have been telling people to post or vote more, or saying person X is so obviously scummy, without actually trying to convince anyone of it. You accuse other people of contributing too little, when you yourself have barely contributed anything at all. It's time to get your head out of the clouds and actually start putting some effort into this game.
Yet I've still made useful posts unlike you. So no, I have not "barely contributed anything at all." And one-liners is normal for me, lurking from you is not.

Snipereborn, updated reads from you? On D2, you had jellsprout as "null." What, since then, has made you vote him and therefore have him as scum?



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However, I'm considering changing to yuggy because I don't remember him ever being this inactive. Or shavey, because the quick hammer (from two days ago) is essentially the last thing he's done. I'm not sold on a jell lynch because I'm the only one who has given a nontrivial reason for voting him, and that was largely stilted up on assumptions (which I'm not reasonably sure are correct).
So. The question now is do we force jell to claim or go lurker hunting? I'm going to keep my vote on jell for a while because I doubt shavey or yuggy would be very fertile in terms of information.

Also, no hammer w/o group consent pl0x.


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Yaya
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 7:39 pm EST

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I was gonna post this earlier, but I got sidetracked./vague but true excuse

(@ Jell) I thought I kinda said it was pointless. Putting you at L-1 does nothing, so there's no real harm in doing it. Thomas would eventually get on me for not having my vote on anybody. I don't really feel like bickering with Thomas or Guyguy about voting them. There no one will ever lynch Yuggy/Shavey this far in without posting. Harumbai, I definitely feel like he's hiding something, but that unfortunately includes hiding from being active and responding to anything. Darvince is Jorster Jr. I still think Snipereborn is town. That leaves.... JORSTER!

I know he claimed and all, but I'm pretty sure he's been on all the active peoples' scum lists (you, Thomas, Flashmarsh, and Snipereborn) at one time or another. His entire performance this game could be viewed as one bad scumslip. If we were to lynch him, that could offer some clues to who the rest of the scum is by association posts in previous days and lower the player count without lowering useful activity? If he flips town by some miraculous chance, some people are definitely gonna appear more suspicious suddenly. Each side obviously thinks Thomas/Jell is a more important lynch, but a Jorster lynch could steer us in a good direction for D5 if nothing too crazy happens overnight.

I'll admit Jell, I was kind of expecting something to happen when I put you at L-1. I don't exactly know what, but it seemed like the easiest thing to do. Your last post gave it to me pretty clear and I realize how pointless it is to put someone at L-1  just for the hell of it, especially since there's a few eager-hammers in this roster. Jorster has still continued to post crap into today without any substance to pad it out. I think it's a good idea to go this route.
Unvote. Vote: Jorster

Thoughts? (Sorry for changing my mind so quickly. This came to me in a rush.)



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Jorster
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 7:52 pm EST
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How is lynching me, one of the most active players in the game, going to set you up for success tomorrow? Honestly, if you lynch the active players without any real reasoning, then you're setting yourself up for failure.


Yaya
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 8:04 pm EST

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One of the most active players in the game? There's a difference between being active and posting a lot. If all the active players were a fine China vase packed in a box, you would be the foam peanuts.

And did I hammer you? No. Did I put you at L-1? No. I just put down my thoughts at the moment. You're not even close to getting lynched.



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Jorster
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 8:11 pm EST
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I realize that, I'm just defending myself from your accusations.


Thomas
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 8:12 pm EST
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Well your defense sucks because first, you aren't active, second, active does not mean you can't be scum.
FlashMarsh
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 8:14 pm EST

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Unvote

Vote: Jorster
Jorster
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 8:28 pm EST
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'FlashMarsh' said:
Unvote

Vote: Jorster


Reasoning, that isn't pls vot joredstir


FlashMarsh
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 8:43 pm EST

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Your flip would change the entire game because most people's opinions on the mafia would change greatly. Pretty much all sides want you dead, too.
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 9:17 pm EST
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Jellsprout (4) - Thomas, Darvince, Jorster, Snipereborn
Jorster (2) - Yaya, Flashmarsh
Thomas (1) - Harumbai
Snipereborn (1) - Jell

Not voting (2) - shavey dave, yuggy

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.


Thomas
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 9:27 pm EST
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'shos' said:
Snipereborn (1) - Jell

Not voting (3) - jellsprout, shavey dave, yuggy
Is jellsprout voting or not??
shos
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Sunday, October 14 2012, 9:34 pm EST
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sorry, fixed.


Harumbai
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Monday, October 15 2012, 5:52 am EST
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'Yaya' said:
Harumbai, I definitely feel like he's hiding something,  
Not really...
Anyway, I guess I just haven't been posting here because I don't have anything to say. I don't think Jell is mafia so like Jell said I wouldn't lynch him. We've been through the almost lynching Jorster thing before too and really we just have to decide now whether his claim is true or not because if we think it is then there is no point in pressuring him as he must be town.

At the moment I feel like Scum might be out of Sniper, Darvince, Thomas and Flash. I get town reads from most other people and it's not necessarily that these people are all that scummy, but there are no other options. Also somehow I keep coming back to considering Flash vs Darvince and thinking that at least one of them must be mafia. I haven't mentioned it before because it has always been in the middle of a high tension time, but I'm mentioning it now.

Unvote
Vote: Flashmarsh


Just randomly one of those 2.


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jellsprout
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Monday, October 15 2012, 6:18 am EST
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At the moment I'm fairly certain Sniper is scum. His posts just keep getting less and less consistent.
As for the other two scum members, I am doubting between Jorster, Shavey and Yuggy. All three are playing poorly. At this moment I'm leaning to Jorster and Yuggy. Their play just seems worse than Shavey's compared to their ordinary play.


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