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snipereborn
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Monday, October 15 2012, 1:20 pm EST
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'jellsprout' said:
At the moment I'm fairly certain Sniper is scum. His posts just keep getting less and less consistent.
As for the other two scum members, I am doubting between Jorster, Shavey and Yuggy. All three are playing poorly. At this moment I'm leaning to Jorster and Yuggy. Their play just seems worse than Shavey's compared to their ordinary play.

OMGUS much? "Less and less consistent" as in I wasn't voting you before and now I am?


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'Harumbai' said:
We've been through the almost lynching Jorster thing before too and really we just have to decide now whether his claim is true or not because if we think it is then there is no point in pressuring him as he must be town.
Well do you believe it?



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'Yaya' said:
'Harumbai' said:
We've been through the almost lynching Jorster thing before too and really we just have to decide now whether his claim is true or not because if we think it is then there is no point in pressuring him as he must be town.
Well do you believe it?
Though I'm having a huge internal struggle over this I am going to go with yes.

Also Jell, I still have Shavey as town from the previous wagons as he hasn't done anything I consider explicitly scummy since then.


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Monday, October 15 2012, 7:11 pm EST
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Yeah I know snipereborn is scum but you're scum with him, jellsprout.
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Monday, October 15 2012, 8:17 pm EST
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Harumbai, your play is always so calm, even if you're about to be lynched, which never seems to happen because of your very relaxed (like never gets angry) playstyle.


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Monday, October 15 2012, 8:40 pm EST

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Nice to see you post for the first time in 3 days, Darvince.



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Monday, October 15 2012, 10:52 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
Yeah I know snipereborn is scum but you're scum with him, jellsprout.

Blah blah, more of thomas' "everyone who speaks but isn't me is scum". Honestly, I voted you once, and that's because you're acting almost as bad as flash now. You supposedly had some argument to come "soon", but when is soon for you? An hour before deadline?

Keeping my vote on jell for now, I have to go do my midterm, but if I finish at a reasonable hour tonight I'll log back in.


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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 1:33 am EST
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'snipereborn' said:
Blah blah, more of thomas' "everyone who speaks but isn't me is scum".
I did not say this. For someone who is adamant about my inabilities, even outside of my own admissions, this is a serious mistake. Please in the future do not attribute the words of others to me.

But that's a load of crap. What I'm doing right now explains your vote made in the past? Do you have the ability to see into the future so you would know that I'm apparently gonna behave like FlashMarsh or are you scum?
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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 1:38 am EST
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Now I have a half written case on jellsprout in notepad that I wrote on Friday and I never got around to finishing it. I dunno if I will. If anyone wants to read what I wrote so far then here it is:

'Thomas' said:
Okay I'll attempt to make a case on jellsprout instead of writing a weekly update for IC.

The first problem with jellsprout is his inactivty in this game. This is not the jellsprout we've played with in previous games. When jellsprout was questioned about this on day 1, he stated the game was inactive and for that reason, he was not motivated to participate. The problem with that is, day 1 of this game actually had the most posts of all day 1s played on IG thus far. There were a few people who weren't posting. That problem is not icolated to only this game - previous games have had the same problem and jellsprout was more active in those games. I believe jellsprout is a logical guy and he seems to think that to solve the problem would be to sit back and let other people post. Other/newer players may be following him as well though as he is a role model in the community as a staff member so he clearly is not encouraging other to post as well as avoiding posting himself.

Joster and FlashMarsh, at this point, are easy mislynch targets for scum if they are town. I'm not gonna bandwagon easily there. FlashMarsh's reason for voting Jorster is poor though because really anybody's lynch will provide information.
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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 2:10 pm EST

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Yeah, sorry for being seriously inactive. FoS: Thomas He still seems slightly scummy to me but I'm really not sure anymore. He might just be a lost cause. IMO though, I can't really see any clear scum. I'm really not sure about Yuggy. I'm going to re - re pages 1, 2, 3 and 4 of this thread. I probably won't be posting to much here but I'll try and spark up some activity.




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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 3:03 pm EST

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Are you not sure whether you think Yuggy is scum, or you're not sure when he will come on (you two are brothers, right?)?



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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 4:06 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
'snipereborn' said:
Blah blah, more of thomas' "everyone who speaks but isn't me is scum".
I did not say this. For someone who is adamant about my inabilities, even outside of my own admissions, this is a serious mistake. Please in the future do not attribute the words of others to me.

But that's a load of crap. What I'm doing right now explains your vote made in the past? Do you have the ability to see into the future so you would know that I'm apparently gonna behave like FlashMarsh or are you scum?

It's not a mistake and I will continue to point it out because that's exactly what you do. Jell votes you, you call him scum. I vote you, you call me scum. Yaya talks about your scumminess, you call him scum. Jorster votes you, you call him scum. Harumbai talks about your scumminess, you call him scum. Flash doubts your comftown status, you call him scum. So don't pretend like you don't.

What does any of this even mean? "What I'm doing right now explains your vote made in the past?" What???
Are you referring to this?
"Honestly, I voted you once, and that's because you're acting almost as bad as flash now."
Because clearly I can't predict the future, so I must have been saying "You have been playing poorly for an extended duration from the past until the present, but were not doing so before or in past games". You are a native english speaker, yes?


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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 6:41 pm EST
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'snipereborn' said:
It's not a mistake and I will continue to point it out because that's exactly what you do. Jell votes you, you call him scum. I vote you, you call me scum. Yaya talks about your scumminess, you call him scum. Jorster votes you, you call him scum. Harumbai talks about your scumminess, you call him scum. Flash doubts your comftown status, you call him scum. So don't pretend like you don't.

What does any of this even mean? "What I'm doing right now explains your vote made in the past?" What???
Are you referring to this?
"Honestly, I voted you once, and that's because you're acting almost as bad as flash now."
Because clearly I can't predict the future, so I must have been saying "You have been playing poorly for an extended duration from the past until the present, but were not doing so before or in past games". You are a native english speaker, yes?
...and then you make up BS and I call you an idiot. The only difference? This actually happened. Where did this crap come from?? I've had a scum read on jellsprout since D1 and you're saying it's OMGUS. My scum read on you did not come out of nowhere. I never had Yaya as scum. Always had Jorster as scum. See my vote on D1. I had Harumbai as scum since D2. I have Flash as town.

So where did all this crap some from? Do you see the opposite of what is really said?
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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 9:34 pm EST

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I feel like I may have taken my vote off of Jell too quickly and might've missed something that would've come out of it, but I'm sticking with Jorster for now. Like Thomas said though, he is a pretty bad scapegoat there's a larger chance that he'd be a mislynch compared to Jell or others. Good ol' Jorster and Jell haven't posted lately, though.



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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 9:38 pm EST
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Now what do you think of snipereborn making up all this crap?
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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 9:46 pm EST

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I was gonna let you and him work it out, but I thought he was doing fine until here:
'snipereborn' said:
'Thomas' said:
Yeah I know snipereborn is scum but you're scum with him, jellsprout.

Blah blah, more of thomas' "everyone who speaks but isn't me is scum". Honestly, I voted you once, and that's because you're acting almost as bad as flash now. You supposedly had some argument to come "soon", but when is soon for you? An hour before deadline?

Keeping my vote on jell for now, I have to go do my midterm, but if I finish at a reasonable hour tonight I'll log back in.
This kinda slipped into "poor arguing" territory. He's only made one post since then, and it was just him trying to regain his footing, which he still needs to work out, IMO. Both of you are gonna sound bad if you divert all your scumhunting at bickering with each other. That post which he responded to in that quote was one of your typical stupid ones, but it would've been easier for him to sound convincing if he didn't go down to the quality level of that quote and start being sarcastic.

Yeah, it's crap, but I don't really think that makes him scum as of now. It's just coming off as bad playing at the moment.



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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 9:59 pm EST
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You guys need to stop using sarcasm on the internet. It's not funny.
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Tuesday, October 16 2012, 10:38 pm EST
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So this didn't happen
'Thomas about yaya' said:
Wow I'm trying to figure out if scum would openly ask if they should put someone at L-1. Trying to get approval from pro-town players?

And this didn't happen
'Thomas' said:
I didn't even have to claim at the time. But I did. I was not aware that my role would end the day. But here's a question for you guys who still doubt that I'm town: why would the mafia be given the ability to end the day early so easily? Not to mention for THREE DAYS IN A ROW. If I was scum and I had this role, all I would have to do is screw around get some votes from my partners and myself, get to L-1, self hammer and end the day. Maybe not even self hammer. That benefits the mafia. Also explain the lack of a NK on N2?? Lose your tunnel vision and consider other possibilities.

TOWN:
Shavey Dave
Yaya
FlashMarsh
Darvince

NULL:
Yuggy

SCUM:
snipereborn
Jorster
Harumbai
jellsprout

Soccerboy was a mason which is linked with another town mason. It may benefit in the future (maybe not right now) if that person claimed because it can be confirmed pretty easily because scum can't fake claim it with another real mason in the game. If I had to guess, Darvince is probably the other mason.

Anyway, most of what jellsprout says sounds forced, rather than natural. It really reminds me of how he played in game #2, as scum.

When the only scummy thing anyone on that list has done is vote you the day before.
http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1349638084

Also, here's the last reads you gave on D2
http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1349589794
And you didn't start insisting that jell was scum until he challenged your bad play here
http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1349517773
So you stop with your lying crap. If you have such a hard time remembering what you've said in the past, maybe you should go back and look at it.


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Wednesday, October 17 2012, 2:54 am EST

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'Yaya' said:
Are you not sure whether you think Yuggy is scum, or you're not sure when he will come on (you two are brothers, right?)?


Yeah, we're brothers. I know he probably won't be on for a little while and what I was saying is that I have no idea to wether he is scum or he is town.




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Wednesday, October 17 2012, 4:05 am EST
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You guys better be ready for the deadline. It will come faster than you will expect. So do something. Lynch someone or force jellsprout to fake claim.
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Wednesday, October 17 2012, 5:29 am EST
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'Yaya' said:
Good ol' Jorster and Jell haven't posted lately, though.


There just isn't much to repsond to. Thomas is getting more and more hypocritical, Sniper is slipping up more and more. Shavey has started posting again, but his posts lack any content and Yuggy has still vanished from the face of the Earth. I'm still convinced Sniper is scum, but without contributions from Shavey and Yuggy it is difficult to decide who his buddies are.


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Wednesday, October 17 2012, 8:03 am EST
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MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

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'shos' said:
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA

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Votecount!

Jellsprout (4) - Thomas, Darvince, Jorster, Snipereborn
Jorster (2) - Yaya, Flashmarsh
Flashmarsh (1) - Harumbai
Snipereborn (1) - Jell

Not voting (2) - shavey dave, yuggy

With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.

Deadline is in a little more than 2 days.


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Your need to rethink your strategy if you call that an attempt.

I need to rethink mine also. Everyone either thinks Jorster is too risky or isn't worth a lynch. Only having Flashmarsh with me isn't very assuring. I imagine I'll have to unvote him in the next few two days.



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Wednesday, October 17 2012, 7:08 pm EST
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I'm beginning to wonder if the scum are actually phantom players that don't exist because shos is always laughing evilly about the game...


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