wow, totally. no need to approve - this is auto agreed.

oh yeah, i forgot all about that.

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wall spikes?

Will it be possible to have over lapping of objects? Like destroy a steel crate and a treasure is under it? N uses it in some levels and it's pretty cool Imo.

If we do I think there should be some way of showing that rather than searching everywhere  because you dont know where the treasure is.

I was actually thinking about that. Theoretically, the level maker is set up so that you can only place one item for each 32x32 tile. But if that item just happens to be a custom object, what if that object is larger than 32x32? It would probably overlap with other nearby tiles when you play the level. Actually, that could lead to some really cool glitches when you think about it, considering how the collision tests work right now..

Accel, please - let all tiles remain the same size at least.

well, the varied sizes is mostly dependent on the fact that there are things such as spikes, that don't take up the entire tile. And enemies that take up several tiles

Autoscalers are your solution.

And don't think "cool glitches" are a good thing either.

Cool glitches are cool indeed, just check HatPC - play Cascades to see what all these cool glitches can do.

I mean, glitches should never be intended, and always eliminated where possible. Features are fine; GLITCHES are bad.

lol if a glitch is intended then, it's not a glitch is it?

True, but if you find a glitch, and leave it there because it's "cool," that's just silly, haha.

That reminds me of wavedashing in SSBM (Jell will understand me at least). The developers said that they found the glitch  but left it in the game because how useful it was. They said that when the general public found the glitch.

In SSBB they removed wavedashing.

Anyway, some of the glitches in HatPC could be converted into features in Aeon. Everyone is happy.

I have to agree with Isa.  Some of the glitches are fun, and can add much more to the cave,

I'm cool with glitches being convert into features. (meaning intentional, and with their own animation and stuff) However, if you just let people fly through walls after bouncing off a box and think it would be neat for puzzle levels, so you just leave it as is, that's no bueno.

Do you think we'd let those glitches stay in the game? We're talking about small but useful glitches, like the drop-objects-through-floors one in HatPC.  

There's no reason to bring that glitch over, or any for that matter. We're going to have more than enough features to create a brand new experience and open up many new possibilities; we don't need to take anything more from HatPC than we already have. Especially miscellaneous glitches things like that.

The exception that comes to mind is jumping into single-tiled spaces, which wasn't all that much of a glitch in the first place.

Not saying that should be implanted, but it is a good example of a useful glitch.

I don't know, I always liked duck-jumping because it sort of adds another dimension to maneuvers. And jumping into single-tiled spaces is useful for conserving space in levels.

I agree that duckjumping is good because of the added possibilities it adds, but it seems like we got the entire community against us

and you know what? Duck-jumping is also an unintentional glitch in the coding of Aeon, just like it is in HATPC. lol but I probably would've gone out of may way to include it anyway

Wavedashing isn't a glitch. You are supposed to be able to do anything normal on the first frame of your jump. You are supposed to be able to airdoge in any direction. You are supposed to keep momentum when landing. So how is it suddenly a glitch when all of these get put together? A better example would have been moonwalking:


I never liked duck-jumping anyway. It makes many traps very annoying and ruined many other traps. I never liked starting invincibility either.

Invincibility reminds me of why TNT left it out in HATIC. The answer is bascially, they are lazy.