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Thomas
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:14 am EST
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'Isa' said:
On the phone, so cannot unlock the google docs topic just yet. Oh well.
You should get an iPhone.
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:23 am EST
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Quick... Congrats fellow townies and it looks like we owe Thomas a lot, he saved Yaya and that was why it was so quick.
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I blame Haily for our quick defeat.


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You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
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Yaya left a clear path towards Harumbai during day 2 so he did a fine job on that part. I was sad to see that he didn't gather a stronger case though, which was very possible.  
Isa
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Fixed the docs link.  
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'Harumbai' said:
It is so hard to play as mafia, of course I can't guess anyone seriously when I know who the real mafia is. Also everyone is playing a really tight game so there is nothing to say about anyone.
I know that feeling. That was my problem when I was scum. Also...
'Shavey' said:
HELLO. LETS GO FOR A TOWN WIN. DEFEND EACH OTHER, IF NEEDED ROLE CLAIM.
'Yuggy' said:
WELL DUH, WE ARE TOWN...
Lolwut.

So is there gonna be any official endgame topic, or can we just post why shos sucks here?



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Isa
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:06 am EST
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You can post why he sucks in here, lol. No point in another topic when the win happened during the day.
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:36 am EST

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Well, setting Shos aside for now, I'd say the game was a pretty nice success. I'll admit that I completely lucked out in who I investigated, and that the scum got names that I qualified for. Besides my investigations, there wasn't much else I did skillfully. I'm always hesitant to try and build a hard-pressing case against somebody because I might be wrong, and I'll have to go on the defensive whether I'm wrong or right- of course when I had near confirmed proof*, I still couldn't do it, lol. Though this game, I learned that I was pretty good at defending myself (that might've been because most of the time it was against Shos), so I gotta try better next time. If I was more forward and not so worrysome, I could've lynched Harumbai D2.

Thanks-a-million to Thomas making N2 fail, but would I of still been saved since I forced Harumbai to doctor me (which is kinda hilarious in itself)? It also would've been great if Thomas got the role of Thomas, I can imagine the skepticism. The inactivity was pretty bad this game despite being in the summer. There were times where I surfed the IG logged out to make it look like I wasn't avoiding the game, which I was avoiding because absolutely nothing was happening. I liked the premise of Quirvy's role. It sounded pretty cool.

I don't know what to chalk Shos's awful playing to. Maybe it is actually because he's always been lynched N1 and we've never seen him beyond that. Either way, it truly seems that Shos took his behavior on the regular Interguild, cranked it up to 11, and went with it. At times I wasn't doing much better for different reasons, but holy crap Shos. At least you tried to improve though.

As for the way the game was run itself, the U-pick concept was really cool, and the flavors were nice until they weren't. I've never run a mafia game so I can't say that much, but flavors at an extra layer of fun to the game. A mafia game without flavors is like plain oatmeal.

*The only real risk I took the entire game that I lied about being confirmed sanity. I figured it was worth the risk since my role already had enough limits, and I'm not exactly sure how the doctor role would've work if I was insane or guilty, lol. It also would've taken more time to confirm it, but I still would've been good. My plans if I needed to confirm was to investigate Thomas, hope he comes back town, and be like, "I'm a cop, but my sanity isn't confirmed. Harumbai came back mafia, Thomas came back town. Have fun". Which would've actually worked out. But the more I've thought about it, I'm pretty sure nobody would've questioned my sanity if I hadn't put in sanity confirmed. Harumbai was relatively scummy in everyone's minds already, and there's only been an insane cop in 1 game on the site (my apologies Isa for relying on past games as evidence. I always thought investigative immunity was a staple, lol).



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Quirvy
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:40 am EST
  

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Are we going to get a post where you reveal all of the stuff like night actions and roles?

I'll say this: I didn't lose! I just didn't win...

While my role wasn't quite as hard to win as, as say a serial killer, I think my chances of winning were still pretty low. Unless I were to directly affect some of these lynches strategically so that there were less people left at the end, this game was literally impossible for me to win. Even if all of my choices were optimal, I think that the most I could have had at this point was 4/6 of the survivors. I guess maybe that's where you have to act in a way that extends the game (in terms of days, not general length), but I'd like to see you do that when the detective does what yaya did.

Regardless, it was fun to play as the neutral independent; naturally, I sided with town, because you need to act like town if you want to survive, and also because I just wanted the town to win. I had fun with my role.

BTW, Isa, my role was "Quirvy reply to my PM." I'm guessing you have that typed down somewhere, because your role PM said I was "Thomas reply to my PM", too. So anyone wanna guess what my Independent role was? I don't think it's too hard to figure out by now.

Oh, and here is the list of possible roles that I had Isa choose(/random number generate) from:

Gergory the Pony
Forum 18
Shos' Confusion count
Dando's playground
Going for the Record
Purple Okapis
Livio's inactivity streak
Pineappleguild
Internationeezle Day
"Quirvy reply to my PM"
imbak
Thomas getting himself lynched
The "Who should marry Neezles?" topic
Ask D52
ThomasBot (or InterBot vs Intertester)
Random Chat topic's poll
The song used in the walkthrough to "The CaveGallery Cave"
The multiple Never Ending Story topics that came to an end
The never ending Midnight cave series
The smilie
Ask Captain Obvious
The Hangman topic
Ads for gothscene.com
Monorail Cat in Featured Content
The Blame Haily Foundation

Didn't include in list, but should have: Two minutes to midnight



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shos
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:40 am EST
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scum QT looks no so bad. neighbour doesn't look good.

anyway - we got seriously lucky lol.

Ilink to the graveyard please? I wanna see Isa's comments on the whole shos-officially-can't-be-voted claim, lol.


oh ninja'd by yaya and Q


Isa
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:43 am EST
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http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/topic.php?id=6970

=p

I'll start writing up my thoughts now.
Isa
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:45 am EST
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And for those who do not like Google Docs...
Spoiler:
Yaya
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:54 am EST

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Forgot to do what Quirvy did. I only sent Isa 3 roles. The Purple Okapi, : 42 :, and Art (the beloved member).



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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 11:58 am EST
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after reading yaya's post, and before reading the google docs doc, I still have to wonder why the hell everyone thinks I played bad. I had correct reads on all mafias; the only wrong part on my end was about jell, and that thing with thomas. I knew that post was supposed to mean something; if only he would admit it and say that it's part of his ability...

..


Quirvy
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 12:01 pm EST
  

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I think that the graveyard topic should explain what you did wrong pretty well. I haven't gotten through all of it, but Isa nailed why you lying about your role on day 1 was so bad.



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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 12:05 pm EST
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'Isa' said:
I'm gonna break it down for you real quick why lying about your role is poor for town.
By stating that you were a permanent tree stump at first (lie #1), people automatically assumed you were town since it'd be a broken role if it was scum. However, you then claimed that you may or may not get better at day 3 (lie #2 - see, that's more than one lie), which seems like an after-construction. It drew needless attention to you as town, and you only want attention to be put on scum. There's very few persons in this game who has you as a town read because of these lies, and even though town is in a good position due to the Jazz lynch, they're in a poor position now because you are about to be lynched - and that is because you lied about your role.
Finally, absorbing the Night Kill would be POSITIVE, since you don't even know what your role does (unless you've connected the dots and realized that Jellsprout is Hated because of your night action!). You are way too absorbed with living through the game yourself, while disregarding the best for the town - which is if you'd die.

(...fun fact though - Mafia strongly considered killing you)


That's also disregarding your usual "I can scumhunt based on semantics!" manners which has a 0% success rate of catching Mafia
Quirvy
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 1:08 pm EST
  

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From the graveyard topic:
'Isa' said:
Moreover, I think Quirvy is overvaluing Snipereborn's scumminess. He opposed the scum lynch - but what did he have to gain from that as scum? He had been considered a valuable asset to town previously, sooo...Soccerboy seems like an accurate guess though.
I wasn't saying that sniper was scummy, just that I thought him most likely to be investigated. Soccer wasn't necessarily in 2nd place because at that point I thought he was scum, but just because he acted sort of cryptic Day 1, and one might be interested to find out what his role is. I'll admit that I did misjudge Harumbai completely in that PM, but I guess you're bound to misjudge some things when you've only played mafia once, about a year ago.

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Unvoting someone at L-1 is really Mafia 101, and I'm honestly sad to see that Quirvy sees this as a town tell.
Lol, well I've never taken mafia 101, so I don't really know things like that. Without having much mafia experience, if I was in Harumbai's position, I wouldn't have unvoted Jorster in that position. But then again, I doubt I'd make very good mafia, either. I was very happy to find out that I didn't get a mafia role in this game.

'sniper' said:
Oh and, s'all good harumbai. Btw, did you choose what message to send me when you killed me?
'Thomas' said:
Can you quote the message you got when you were killed?
'sniper' said:
It was something like:
"YoUr SqUiD eSpIoNaGe TaCtIcS wOn'T fOoL mE!"
I was initially sad when it dawned upon me that I wasted my night action on someone that got NK'd, but eventually it dawned upon me how well placed that particular message was, and how it probably seemed related to your death. Sniper, if you ever read this, can you post the full PM that Isa sent you informing you of that message and your death? I'm just curious as to how it was presented.

'Thomas' said:
I don't remember when you called Harumbai a squid on D1 or something but he made it pretty obvious it was him apart from the random capitalization of letters.
Lol, I tried my best to make my private messages in a way so that people wouldn't think that they were me, because I didn't want people to send me any messages. I guess it worked pretty well.

Overall, I think I did a good job at making my messages interesting.



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Thomas
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:07 pm EST
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So was Quirvy's role called "Thomas reply to my PM" or "Quirvy reply to my PM"? Because in this post you said Thomas but the doc says Quirvy...

Also Quirvy wanna post your list with all the role picks you sent to Isa?
Isa
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:08 pm EST
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It's "Quirvy reply to my PM". I always wrote it out wrong. =p
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:15 pm EST
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I really wanted Jorster to take my ability, get a ton of innocents to target him, then they'd all be silenced


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You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
Isa
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:17 pm EST
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On a related note - Jorster didn't really roleblock his target, he'd just get the ability used by the targeted person.

Not that it mattered since he didn't absorb anything. =p

(that reminds me - scum didn't share their roles with each other until Night 2. What was up with that, really)
Quirvy
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'Thomas' said:
So was Quirvy's role called "Thomas reply to my PM" or "Quirvy reply to my PM"? Because in this post you said Thomas but the doc says Quirvy...

Also Quirvy wanna post your list with all the role picks you sent to Isa?
It was "Quirvy reply to my PM". He just said Thomas instead of Quirvy because of your obvious association to the role.

I already did so, here.

PMs attempted to be sent by me:
To Jellsprout:
Quote:
shavey dave - mafia
yuggy - town
shos - town
quirvy - town
snipereborn - mafia
yaya - town
soccerboy13542 - town
thomas - town
jellsprout - OBVSCUM
rocket guy2 - town
jazz - town
harumbai - town

To snipereborn:
Quote:
YoUr SqUiD eSpIoNaGe TaCtIcS wIlL nOt WoRk On Me

To Shavey:
Quote:
COPY AND PASTE THIS MESSAGE TO 10 DIFFERENT BOARDS THEN GO TO THE MEMBER RANKNGS PAGE AND YOU WILL GET 100000 KARMA AND 100000000 DUBLOONS THIS HAS WORKED FOR EVERYONE SO FAR AND IS STAFF RECOGNIZED

To Yuggy:
Quote:


This town is now under Soviet rule



And here are the PMs I sent Isa, that he mentioned in the graveyard topic.
'Quirvy, Day 1, during an argument with shos,' said:
I know it's early but shos is my nominee for worst player

'Quirvy, Day 2, after shos voted for jellsprout,' said:
CONFIRM NOMINATION: shos for worst player of the game

I'll post a collection of my thoughts on everyone later

Isa, can we see the message that Jellsprout sent to Harumbai?



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Isa
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:32 pm EST
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From Jell to Harumbai:
Quote:
Every breath you take
And every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
Ill be watching you

Every single day
And every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
Ill be watching you
Thomas
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:44 pm EST
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Oh so it turns out I was on my iPod and I skipped your post and Yaya's to see the google doc.

Also if I had to nominate somebody for MVP (that isn't me, lol) then I'd probably say jellsprout. I thought Yaya was scum... I guess he used his role well but I wouldn't say he played well during the days. I 100% agree on shos being the worst player in the game.
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Wednesday, July 11 2012, 3:44 pm EST
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Just a question, can I host the next mafia game?

I don't mind but I have an idea.


Can you feel your heart burning?
Can you feel the struggle within?
The fear within me is beyond anything your soul can make, you cannot kill me in a way that matters

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