Jorster, I'm still wondering why you called Isa obvious town? There's no way you could have confirmed it, and it just looks silly now lol.  

It was kinda obvious he must have used it because there was only one kill. The only exception would be if there's other docs in the game like maybe a JOAT or something.

No, I'm adamant he submitted a kill. It's a 13 player game so I'd expect an indie of some sort. If the town knew there was an SK, it's not like Isa was in the position to be a lynch option at the time, anyway. And then of course it benefits him to start killing from the first night. He wants to eliminate mafia as soon as he can.

So what did I do between this post and the above quote to go from "pretty Scummy" to "Slight-Scum"?? You need to stay consistent with your reads of I'm gonna keep saying you're pulling BS out of your rear end.

Could be buddying. Perhaps he thought Isa would stop attacking him if he called him town. Can one who is town aligned really be so sure he was town though? Would a pro-town player do that? It's strange.

About Isa, I had that weird feeling about him and it was because there were too many people that he was fine with lynching.

Jorster, what was the result of your night action? (Paraphrase, don't quote.)

I'm wondering why buboy replaced out?? He actually posted stuff... Also it seems to me that Silver was on actively during the night but avoids the site during the days.

No wait Silver is hiding. Time to policy lynch.

OK wow can we not have this argument again, for crying out loud. You do know what hiding means, right? It means you are lurking and not intending to post, or lurking and doing other things whilst lurking (the latter of which I am pretty much doing at the moment). And unlike Jazz I do intend to post - when I want to, not when others demand it of me - and I actually want to try and attempt to make a contribution, when I feel like posting.

That out of the way, I'm going to give my thoughts on people... Though I will say here that the only people who really makes me suspicious is, first off, Jellsprout. Last day, he kept re-stating obvious things and seemed to be avoiding contributing, whereas from what I can remember of the last games is that he was an active contributor. The other person is Jorster, with his weird flip-flopping play, poor reasoning, and the like.

Everyone else is a Town read, except for Thomas - he played just as aggressively in previous games - and FlashMarsh - very, very aggressive play, but from what I can tell (and remember) it's his first game in a while, not to mention he's changed a lot - who I'm not too sure on, so I guess that means I null read on them.

That's pretty much it from me for now, please excuse the meager reasoning! (I will try and do my best to make some good reasoning, but sadly these days I can't seem to write anything really coherent anymore.)

Perhaps, but I still don't think that was very smart. By claiming Miller he made himself a perfect target for the Mafia. The Miller claim made him semi-confirmed Town. Isa is already a dangerous Townie, by convincing everyone that early in the game he wasn't Mafia he ensured his kill.

As for Soccer, he is only becoming scummier. No Soccer, this isn't your set-up. It is merely a game inspired by your set-up. I figured the Mafia could also be trainers or Team Rocket or something. Nobody knew for certain that the Mafia were Ditto, except for the Mafia themselves. And you, apparently. What does this tell us?
Furthermore, your hammer on Jazz. There was no reason to do that, especially not that early. There was absolutely nothing to suggest Jazz was scum and there were still three days left. Why hammer that soon? We could have used those three days to put pressure on actually suspicious people or at least to give Jazz a chance to defend himself. Instead of actually helping Town gain information, you finalized the lynch as soon as possible.
Soccer is scum and it just keeps getting more and more obvious.

Darvince has been on for 9 hours and 38 minutes and hasn't posted anything for ages....

I agree with Jell about the fast lynch, I went to bed (probably quite late) and by the time I woke up the day was over and nothing more could be done.

But there are all sorts of other roles aren't there? Someone (mafia) who is immune to night kills, someone who can go into hiding a certain number of times per game (dugtrio?),

Urh I'm tired, I'll try and post more tomorrow/later today in fact.

I'm not told if my protection was successful. Shos just confirms that he receives the action, not if it worked or not.

Vote Thomas I still think my vote belongs on Thomas. ATM I'm getting the most scum on him and think he should have been lynched. I think it would have been logical.

I haven't read anything past this, but isn't it also possible that shos resolved that the mafia kill occurs before the sk kill? So Isa sneaks up on someone and before he omnoms them, the dittos ambush him? I know that some mods make everything happen at once, but others make things happen in a sequence.

I can see a possible Shavey-Jorster Scum team or neighbors or something as Jorster seems to think Shavey is quite frankly playing better than he is. Concrete evidence? Really? Possible partnership so

FoS: Jorster
FoS: Shavey

Shavey doesn't seem to have a bias towards or against Jorster, but he might be better at hiding things.

I'm not surprised that Isa was NK'd to be honest (an obvious strong player to take down for mafia's PoV), but I am more suprised that he was SK. I don't think the mafia knew he was SK when they killed him though.

I am more busy than I used to be with year 10 and stuff, but I can still provide decent activity levels.

Reasons?

Okay. If i HADN'T hammered jazz, who would you guys have lynched?
I'm also waiting for shos to reply to something before I post again, sorry for the delay.

Jorster, answer soccerboy's question. Why was Isa "OBVIOUS TOWN"?

"It means you are lurking and not intending to post"
And that's exactly what you're doing. You were on a few hours before I mentioned your name but you did not post at that time either.

"I actually want to try and attempt to make a contribution, when I feel like posting."
But you don't feel like posting and that's the problem. You need to make time on your schedule to post.

So how is this posting style beneficial to the town, Silver?

He seemed town to me. I figured that the general consensus was that he was town.

a votecount will come tomorrow morning(8 hours from now, +-)

So you want ahead and called him "OBVIOUS TOWN"? This doesn't add up...

So what you're saying is you aren't posting, nor do you intend to post? Why did you want to be a replacement If you're refusing to post?


If you intend to post, do so. Make a contribution, sooner, rather than later.


This is what Flash has been saying.


That's how I've always played.


So everyone but Jell and I are town? Thomas and Flash are Null to you, I get that, but still.



Based off of this I'm going to Vote: Silver


Ninja'd:
Obvious was maybe too definite. I should have said something like Large chance.

@Jellsprout:



Why is this so hard to believe? The fact that he was the independent changes who he kills but doesn't make the argument less valid...

Another thing, on page 19 you said that I was banding together with Flash and Jorster against Thomas. In case you haven't realized
this, I have defended Thomas the entire game.



This seems like it's exactly what YOU'RE doing. You've been after me since the very first 24 hours...



http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/topic.php?id=7163&page_number=3

Look at the first two posts. Notice how it's 3 hours after I started posting?

Haha, you know what would make sense? If one single person claimed that my "rolefishing" was suspicious, then decided "Hey! If I kill Isa, maybe I can turn the tables on Soccer, who I've been after the entire game!"

Looking back at previous mafia games... you've never stuck with one person. You've always changed beliefs on who is mafia.

@Jorster: again... it seems like you're doing the "I'll post stuff and I'll look pro-town!" thing again.

You ONLY post when you are under accusation.



^sigh.

So Jorster, what you're saying is, because Silver has the same style of play as you... She is obvscum.

That's not true. I wasn't under accusation when I posted the silver list. Also, our play style is different. I actually post. She doesn't actually want to post.

Are you gonna continue to spam the thread?

What are you talking about? I was responding to Soccerboy.