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Yuggy
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:19 am EST
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'Thomas' said:
'shos' said:
soccerboy, do you realize that 'i tried to give him a chance' is wrong? you posted twice before he came online, that chance is pretty slim lol..
I have asked Yuggy some questions and they have gone unanswered. Yaya gave Yuggy ample time to defend himself but Yuggy chose not to. If he won't answer Yaya or me then I really doubt he will answer to Soccerboy.  
Ample time when I was sleeping. I have a different time zone.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:34 am EST
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Silver just posted in the minecraft thread while hiding, I know it's nor much but she could have turned it on to post on the mafia board but forgot to become un-hidden. Not much, but might be something.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:44 am EST

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Eh I just can't be bothered to turn it off.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:48 am EST
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Ah ha! Mafiascum says this:
"Freudian slips are one way to catch scum, but sometimes townies just mess up, so be wary of the trap of over-assumtions."
So what I am saying is that I am a townie that messed up, not scum.
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'Silver' said:
Eh I just can't be bothered to turn it off.


You think this is adefenece? Lolwtf?! Yuggy is actually redeeming himself, but that is very unbilivible.




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 4:06 am EST

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Oops, spelling fail.




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 5:49 am EST
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Guyguy appears to be absent, so I have tallied a vote count:

Votes:
Thomas (2) - Shos, Silver
Silver (0) -
Yaya (0)-
Yuggy (5) - Thomas, Yaya, Soccerboy, Shavey Dave, CSD
CSD (0) -
Soccerboy (0) -
KoolerTheFirst (1) - Yuggy
DBX (0) -
shos (1) - Jellsprout
Jellsprout (0) -
Jazz (0) -
Shavey Dave (0) -

FoS:
Thomas (2) - Jellsprout, Shos
Silver (2) - Thomas, Yaya
Yaya (1) - Yuggy
Yuggy (5) - Thomas, Silver, Yaya, Shos, Shavey Dave
CSD (1) - Shos
Soccerboy (2) - Jellsprout, Yaya
KoolerTheFirst (2) - Yuggy, Shavey Dave
DBX (3) - Soccerboy, Shos, Shavey Dave
shos (1) - Thomas
Jellsprout (2) - Shos, Thomas
Jazz (1) - Yuggy
Shavey Dave (1) - Yuggy

And please do us all a favor and remember to unvote before voting.


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jellsprout
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 7:17 am EST
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Unvote: Shos
Un-FoS: Soccerboy
Vote: Thomas
FoS: CSD
FoS: Jazz


By now I don't think Shos and Soccerboy are Mafia. Shos might still be one, but I'm willing to bet my life on Soccerboy being Town.
Thomas on the other is getting more obvious Mafia with every post he makes. He makes fallacious statements. He contradicts his own posts. And most importantly of all, he is trying to rally a vote rush halfway through the day and for only one absolutely terrible reason. Remember Bmwsu in the previous two games? Something smells scummy here.
Also Thomas, I want to reply to your posts but you make like 20 new posts every time I log off. If I wanted to give an in-depth analysis of how wrong you are, I would still be typing 10 hours from now. But let me just say, pretty much everything you've said so far doesn't make much sense or is simply plain wrong.

CSD has not nearly been active enough to make a solid judgment, but so far I find him to be acting oddly. He starts the day with a random joke vote and his second post is almost entirely Mafia theory and adds very little to the actual game. I would except such a post from Isa, but not from CSD. Especially not when he should realize that the one observation he makes, Yuggy playing carefully, has led to several Town lynches the previous two games.

Jazz has been acting odd. He has been making odd, generic statements that don't contribute to the game. In my eye his posts are scummier than Yuggy's at least. And even more odd is how CSD appears to be completely oblivious to this and Thomas noting it, but then dropping the point. It appears to me that CSD is trying to protect Jazz by ignoring him, while Thomas is trying convince us that he has no relation to Jazz, but still trying to remove him from the spotlight.

My guess at our Mafia team is Jazz, CSD and Thomas.


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shos
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 7:23 am EST
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" If you are town then you would know that you aren't always right so then you would know that you could be wrong but you are acting like you think Yuggy is 100% town and you have not provided anything to back this up. This sounds like you are trying to save a scum partner."

just like I said in my last post, right? exactly what I said, in fact.

Shavey Dave said:
"I'm holding off my suspicions about Thomas. I think everyones eyes are pointing straight at Yuggy. I said I'd wait, and Yuggy does seem odd. For that reason...

FoS Yuggy"
Thomas then said:
FoSing is sssoooooooooooooooo 3 real life days ago. Vote him. Yuggy is to die.
'immidiately after that post, Shavey Dave' said:
DIE, DIE, DIE.

Vote: Yuggy
are you seriously voting this because thomas said 'yuggy is to die' right above you?

now thomas, "I have not made a case on you or jellsprout yet. The scum team I posted is a gut feeling."

I will now try to discredit you alittle, so that people will hopefully stop listening to you and start voting you instead lol. well it seems nobody at all said anything about my accusations to you. people, your thoughts on thomas please? and while you're at it, please ignore his reactions for a moment.

you gave three reasons for yuggy being scum. the first could be an honest mistake, you know. you could be right tho, and I could be wrong. there, I said it, does that flip me scum?

Yuggy said
" I actually said that so NOT to be lynched if  I was wrong for no reason suspicion. It went the other way."
note the facepalm at the start? if he said he didn't want to falsely accuse anyone, obviously it is because he didn't want to get lynched, right? if I'm wrong here, then there is nothing to fear about, I can just ramble on and on however much I like. do you understand why your statement is failing? that is not a lie, that is an explanation..

the next reason for accusing yuggy is apparantly the fact that he is accusing someone else.(???!?!) thomas, for that reason, I can condemn everybody. that is plain stupid. if you're saying that it's just "trying to mislead us" or something, well, clearly; you're bringing this whole yuggy discussion to avoid having people looking at you, that's exactly the same.

So generally, your accusations of him fail. he could be mafia of course(note the exactly same idea of yug's first post?), but in my opinion, he's just your skapegoat when you're trying to redirect the fire from yourself. in one of his post he also said that 'his role' could be beneficial to the town. nobody seems to have noticed that. clearly, again, this may be a lie, etc etc, but yeah, anything you say may be too... and you didn't even read all my post? " tl;dr:"???


last thing on my mind, you (thomas) should seriously stop saying all that obvious stuff to you(I said that before, you ignored..)

Pro-town players don't lie; scum do.
Pro-town players will not change their story.
Pro-town players don't worry about getting lynched.

p.s.,
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ust because some people apparently don't look at the time private messages were sent doesn't mean I don't. There's evidence there too to suggest that I did check the role pm time too. I said there was a week for mafia to talk so I would have needed to have the time the role pm was sent in order to execute the math equation which told me there was 7 days or 1 week for the mafia to talk and plan. I have also read the mafia discussions from the previous games and I see that they explain their roles and stuff and they can't explain their roles until they get the damn role pm's so of course the mafia can start talking when they receive the role pm.
This does not make sense.



shos
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 7:28 am EST
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also, I have no read jell's post, and I agree with most of it. my guesses for mafia so far are thomas, and csd for now. I'm voting thomas and if i'm not wrong, I have an FoS on csd...

also note that what we said about thomas is almost word by word the same, about not making sense, about the failing arguments, etc. coincidence, or plain truth?

oh and of course there's the option that we're both mafia and we planned it together which perfectly suits thomas's theory!.. lol, this is interesting. who will prevail?!?! lol.


Shavey Dave
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 8:06 am EST

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Ooookay...

Yuggy has put up a resonable defence. Thomas, Yuggy probaly isn't mafia. YOU seem more suspicious. Yug,
Unvote: Yuggy you seem like you did just mess up. Shos, I agree I did say DIE, DIE, DIE, just after Thomas posted. Anyways, looks like I messed up aswell.

FoS: Thomas        




Yuggy
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 8:09 am EST
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Unvote Kooler
Meant to remove this a while ago.

FoS Thomas
Mostly for what shos and jell have mentioned, but I have always suspected you, so I was suprised I hadn't already FoS'd you. I won't vote. Yet.
shos
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 8:15 am EST
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mmm sorry, just noticed a typo in my post. 'I have NOW read', not "no read", don't mestake it to be not or somethng..


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Saturday, September 17 2011, 9:47 am EST

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Meh, I'll hold on to my vote agianst Yuggy for now, but it's interesting to see what's going down. Yuggy, you really didn't have to wait this long to merely FoS Thomas, usually if someone gets voted on, they find a reason to counter vote the person, lol. It's seriously bugging me though, how Silver is putzing around, either she's a stalling scummy, or a really annnoying townie.



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Shavey Dave
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I'd go for really anoying townie. It's anoying but I don't think She's suspicious.




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:21 pm EST
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'Yuggy' said:
All I can say is that a made a mistake, and a poor defence. I admit it, I am not good at defending myself, especially to Thomas, who is, I must admit, a very good mafia game player. I really think that if you can look through the mistakes, and bad playing, you can see a townie, not a very bad mafia, and do what's best for the town, if it's lynching me, so be it, but especially later in the game my role could come useful to the rest of the town. You have every reason to lynch me, but just be sure about it.
I don't care if you admit your actions. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU ANY LESS SCUMMY. If I look at your posts I see scum who make a small mistake and once accused make many more. I may ask for a role claim soon if your role is apparently going to be useful...
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:27 pm EST
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'Yuggy' said:
Ample time when I was sleeping. I have a different time zone.
This doesn't explain why you didn't respond to Yaya or me.

'Yuggy' said:
Silver just posted in the minecraft thread while hiding, I know it's nor much but she could have turned it on to post on the mafia board but forgot to become un-hidden. Not much, but might be something.
How many times do I have to say this?
LURKING =/= MAFIA
Shavey Dave
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:29 pm EST

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Thomas, what do you have against Yuggy? You should've posted a defence. The more you post the more suspicious I get.

Vote: Thomas

if, IF your NOT mafia defend this.




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:32 pm EST
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http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1316228137

Shavey Dave, YOU were on the Yuggy bandwagon so YOU should know.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:40 pm EST
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'jellsprout' said:
He contradicts his own posts.
Back this up or it's not true.

'jellsprout' said:
And most importantly of all, he is trying to rally a vote rush halfway through the day and for only one absolutely terrible reason. Remember Bmwsu in the previous two games? Something smells scummy here.
Jell, you must not be reading the posts because the Yuggy case is explained here. I was planning on getting Yuggy to L-1 and asking for a role claim. Another reason why I am pressuring people to vote is because the lynch must be reached before the deadline. If there's no lynch BEFORE the deadline then there's a no-lynch which is very anti-town. So no, I was not rushing to end the day. It will also take time for DBX to put her vote to use because the mafia isn't bussing yet.

'jellsprout' said:
If I wanted to give an in-depth analysis of how wrong you are, I would still be typing 10 hours from now. But let me just say, pretty much everything you've said so far doesn't make much sense or is simply plain wrong.
Back this up or it isn't true.

'shos' said:
the next reason for accusing yuggy is apparantly the fact that he is accusing someone else.(???!?!) thomas, for that reason, I can condemn everybody. that is plain stupid. if you're saying that it's just "trying to mislead us" or something, well, clearly; you're bringing this whole yuggy discussion to avoid having people looking at you, that's exactly the same.
He's doing this instead of defending himself.

'Shavey Dave' said:
Yuggy has put up a resonable defence.
Back this up or it didn't happen. If you think admitting something is defending yourself, then no.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:41 pm EST
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'Shavey Dave' said:
Thomas, what do you have against Yuggy? You should've posted a defence. The more you post the more suspicious I get.

Vote: Thomas

if, IF your NOT mafia defend this.
Shavey Dave, explain your vote. I don't understand why you would vote for someone for attacking someone else.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:42 pm EST
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Oh and guys, Jellsprout has posted HIS opinion on me but he hasn't even backed any of this up. Let's see if he can do that or else this is untrue.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:45 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1316228137

Shavey Dave, YOU were on the Yuggy bandwagon so YOU should know.
What if he was only on it as a band wagon vote, then he wouldn't know.

I will tell you my role if you want it.
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Thomas, you seem VERY suspicious. Yuggy probably isn't scum. And don'nt make your writting so .......... BIG.




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Vote: Thomas

let's see how YOU do under pressure, hmmm?


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