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Friday, September 16 2011, 11:02 pm EST
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'shos' said:
soccerboy, do you realize that 'i tried to give him a chance' is wrong? you posted twice before he came online, that chance is pretty slim lol..
I have asked Yuggy some questions and they have gone unanswered. Yaya gave Yuggy ample time to defend himself but Yuggy chose not to. If he won't answer Yaya or me then I really doubt he will answer to Soccerboy.  
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Friday, September 16 2011, 11:46 pm EST

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Gee, Thomas, why so negative?
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Friday, September 16 2011, 11:52 pm EST

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'Thomas' said:
If he won't answer Yaya or me then I really doubt he will answer to Soccerboy.  

Unless of course Soccerboy is mafia and they'll have some fake cool-down session to calm suspicions. His post containing a vote against Yuggy was pretty brief and provided little insight into his suspicions. I'm just throwing ideas out right now. For me, his voting post is the only thing I have against him right now, so he's not too urgent for now.

Shos, you seem to be trying to defend Yuggy a bit too crazily. For me, this makes you look like you're a scum trying to save a scum. If you are town, I understand you don't want to lose a townie in Day 1 like we have in the past, but there's only so much you can do once momentum gains for a lynching. Your defense for Yuggy was basically reinterpreting one of his posts and his overall behavior, along with making a case against Thomas. Yuggy isn't getting accused just because of 1 post, he's also getting accused for trying to make Kooler the scapegoat (sorry, Shos, there's a new goat in town, lol) of all this, similar to what you're doing to Thomas.

I agree that Thomas's pretty aggressive playing style can get a little irksome, but it's getting results in my eyes. I see it as he is overaggressive because he's one of those "I have nothing to lose cuz I'm a townie" players, like Isa in the 1st game. Of course, if Yuggy flips town, he'll definitely seem more scummy to me, but for now, legitimately think Yuggy is mafia.

Of course, other players may have more concrete evidence for Yuggy being town. So I would like to hear CSD's, Silver's (both of them were on today, I don't know for how long, but that gives me hope they'll be more likely to respond), and Jazz/whoever the hell is replacing him (we need somebody, or else we'll have a Bmwsu/Kitti situation like last game). Jell has already expressed his opinions on the matter, Kooler and Shavey however should speak also. I think the problem with them though is there's an extremely good chance both of them are town, and due to their inexperience, they look like they could easily be manipulated by mafia members (no offense). And DBX has said diddley squat relating to the situation, so hopefully she'll either come on or get replaced.

Thoughts? I think that's all of the members (I think). Guyguy, could you break your own rules and edit the player-list into your 1st or 2nd post on this thread? I can never remember which page you posted it on.




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Friday, September 16 2011, 11:56 pm EST
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'Yaya' said:

Unless of course Soccerboy is mafia and they'll have some fake cool-down session to calm suspicions.


but that didn't happen... yuggy still hasn't posted.


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You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
Yaya
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:02 am EST

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I said they'll, as in they will, as in the near future. Unless Yaya failed me englishes, I think me is implementing taht this not has occur red yeti.
(Unless I failed English, I think I meant that this has not happened yet, but will soon)



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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:13 am EST
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'Silver' said:
Gee, Thomas, why so negative?
This is irrelevant. I want to know your thought process.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:20 am EST
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'Yaya' said:
Shos, you seem to be trying to defend Yuggy a bit too crazily. For me, this makes you look like you're a scum trying to save a scum. If you are town, I understand you don't want to lose a townie in Day 1 like we have in the past, but there's only so much you can do once momentum gains for a lynching. Your defense for Yuggy was basically reinterpreting one of his posts and his overall behavior, along with making a case against Thomas. Yuggy isn't getting accused just because of 1 post, he's also getting accused for trying to make Kooler the scapegoat (sorry, Shos, there's a new goat in town, lol) of all this, similar to what you're doing to Thomas.
I agree with this. If you are town then you would know that you aren't always right so then you would know that you could be wrong but you are acting like you think Yuggy is 100% town and you have not provided anything to back this up. This sounds like you are trying to save a scum partner. So because you are acting like you have more information than a pro-town player does, this suggests you are scum. Shos is to die after Yuggy.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:23 am EST

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'Thomas' said:
This is irrelevant. I want to know your thought process.

'Thomas' said:
I want to know your thought process.

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thought process.

'Thomas' said:
This is irrelevant.

Lolwtf.

You worded it way wrong. If you want my stuffs on the mafia, you're outta luck. I'm busy.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:27 am EST
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'Yaya' said:
Of course, other players may have more concrete evidence for Yuggy being town. So I would like to hear CSD's, Silver's (both of them were on today, I don't know for how long, but that gives me hope they'll be more likely to respond), and Jazz/whoever the hell is replacing him (we need somebody, or else we'll have a Bmwsu/Kitti situation like last game).
CSD is already voting for Yuggy so we have already heard from him. I would like to hear his updated thoughts though because a lot has been added to the Yuggy case since he last posted. Silver doesn't post any opinion at all which is annoying. If we want to get some information from Silver tomorrow then we can vote her up to L-1 (one vote from a lynch) and the pressure can force information.

'Yaya' said:
Thoughts? I think that's all of the members (I think). Guyguy, could you break your own rules and edit the player-list into your 1st or 2nd post on this thread? I can never remember which page you posted it on.
I would like an updated vote count as well.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:28 am EST
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'Silver' said:
You worded it way wrong. If you want my stuffs on the mafia, you're outta luck. I'm busy.
Oh well I'm sorry your 'busy' schedule stops you from posting opinion but you can still post random posts that fill up the thread.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:30 am EST

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But not busy enough to still be able to offer BS conversation like this, Silver?

Ninja'd: Lol, Thomas, you ninja'd me. I didn't notice CSD's vote against Yuggy, which definitely means we could use a recount.
Ninja'd 2: Goddammit, Thomas, stop ninja'ing me, lol. As you can tell the original thought I was posting is almost exactly identical to what you just ninja'd me with, but I 'll post it none the less.



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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:38 am EST
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Oh and before the updated vote count:
UN-FoS: soccerboy13542
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 12:40 am EST
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Oh and just in case I don't have an FoS on shos or jell:
FoS: shos
FoS: jellsprout
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:17 am EST

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'Thomas' said:
Silver doesn't post any opinion at all which is annoying. If we want to get some information from Silver tomorrow then we can vote her up to L-1 (one vote from a lynch) and the pressure can force information.

Seriously, if you think you can do that, then why don't you sprout wings and fly?

'Yaya' said:
But not busy enough to still be able to offer BS conversation like this, Silver?

BS is easy to write. Besides, I don't HAVE any opinions yet, because I'm lazy and some other stuff.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:23 am EST

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I'm holding off my suspicions about Thomas. I think everyones eyes are pointing straight at Yuggy. I said I'd wait, and Yuggy does seem odd. For that reason...

FoS Yuggy




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:28 am EST
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'Silver' said:
Seriously, if you think you can do that, then why don't you sprout wings and fly?
I don't think I can do that, I know I can do that. It can't be very hard to vote you. And because the votes are based mainly for pressure, anybody who does lynch you is scum unless YOU are scum...

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I'm holding off my suspicions about Thomas. I think everyones eyes are pointing straight at Yuggy. I said I'd wait, and Yuggy does seem odd. For that reason...

FoS Yuggy
FoSing is sssoooooooooooooooo 3 real life days ago. Vote him. Yuggy is to die.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:33 am EST

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DIE, DIE, DIE.

Vote: Yuggy




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:34 am EST
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'Shavey Dave' said:
I'm holding off my suspicions about Thomas. I think everyones eyes are pointing straight at Yuggy. I said I'd wait, and Yuggy does seem odd. For that reason...

FoS Yuggy
Oh and I would normally say that you shouldn't only FoS someone because other people have done the same either by vote or FoS. You are doing this because YOU find Yuggy suspicious right?
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:35 am EST

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'Thomas' said:
I don't think I can do that, I know I can do that.

Seriously, you can't. If you think you can force information I haven't come up with yet out of me, you're looking down the wrong hole, mister.
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'Thomas' said:
'Shavey Dave' said:
I'm holding off my suspicions about Thomas. I think everyones eyes are pointing straight at Yuggy. I said I'd wait, and Yuggy does seem odd. For that reason...

FoS Yuggy
Oh and I would normally say that you shouldn't only FoS someone because other people have done the same either by vote or FoS. You are doing this because YOU find Yuggy suspicious right?


Yes, I am suspicious about him. It's not just because OTHER people did it. Hez guilty.




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Saturday, September 17 2011, 2:44 am EST
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'Silver' said:
Seriously, you can't. If you think you can force information I haven't come up with yet out of me, you're looking down the wrong hole, mister.
You do have opinions but you just don't want to post them. As long as you are reading the thread then you must have some opinions on stuff because you can't really read something and not put thought into it...
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:10 am EST

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Homestuck is occupying part of my brain.

I don't have the time/energy/botherness to make up opinions.

Maybe when I finish...
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Also, I am not reading it precisely.

More like skimming it.
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:10 am EST

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The thread, that is. :/
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Saturday, September 17 2011, 3:17 am EST
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All I can say is that a made a mistake, and a poor defence. I admit it, I am not good at defending myself, especially to Thomas, who is, I must admit, a very good mafia game player. I really think that if you can look through the mistakes, and bad playing, you can see a townie, not a very bad mafia, and do what's best for the town, if it's lynching me, so be it, but especially later in the game my role could come useful to the rest of the town. You have every reason to lynch me, but just be sure about it.

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