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shos
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 9:59 am EST
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And this whole discussion is now happening in your dream.

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So yeap, you're dead. lynched, killed, assassinated, hit by blunt trauma to the head, whatever you wish to call it. charizard burned you. hitmonliee hit you. bobsponge...uh...well you saw him. that's it.

DISCUSS DA GAME! ^__^ and
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Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 10:41 am EST
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I'm not looking at the permissions, but I can see this yes.
Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 10:42 am EST
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Access Level 1

Yup, doing it right. Just make sure that there's no names not supposed to be here in the Permissions list.
Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:24 pm EST
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Nevermind I can still see it.

Well...you shouldn't have "rerolled" three times if it's really 50% - mods shouldn't have pity on their players. =p

Jellsprout/Snipereborn/Darvince for scum team 2012!
Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:27 pm EST
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Also let me know the "hidden mechanics" please. I have very high doubts that my role was balanced.  
shos
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:34 pm EST
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No lol, I decided from the start that I'll roll three times for everything. the mafia killed you 3/3, and you lost 3/3 in killing Darvince XD

Yes the hidden mechanics was supposed to make you stronger with every kill you make. Could me making you able to avoid a lynch ("you all try to attack Isa, but Isa is nowhere to be found. You look for him everywhere the light strikes, but..He's not there") or 1-shot bulletproof, or increase your kill chance, etc etc.  


shos
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:35 pm EST
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btw you sure nobody can see this?


shos
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:36 pm EST
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oh and also, you might have realized this from my post - the mafia had chances to their kill as well the mean value was 1.16 kills every night. of course, this could change drastically. today's night actions were cool imo.


Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:40 pm EST
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A 50% for a kill that ends up being a 1-(0.5^3) chance...? =p

And I dunno - if someone like Shavey Dave or Yuggy had rolled the Serial Killer, sure, they could have made some use of that (assuming they succeeded in their rolls!). But I'm a Power Player - I am bound to die early through night kills, so essentially I was a nerfed Serial Killer. My Miller claim didn't help me at all here...and I had really high hopes for Jorster protecting me too!

Also it's poor form not to decide upon everything relevant to the game prior to its start. As a mod you're supposed to be fair and neutral, not making up things as you go to suit a specific player. =p
shos
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:47 pm EST
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I DID decide everything prior to the start, lol. I was completely fair and neutral

anyway, what you could have earned:

lynch immunity (one time)
kill immunity (one time)
increased kill chance to 75%(passive forever)
gain cop ability
gain roleblocker ability (2-shot)

and you couldn't get anything twice.


Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 4:53 pm EST
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Increased kill chance is still a nerf compared to regular SK. ;p

One-time Bulletproof would have been the best out of those by far. It'd have made for an interesting mechanic...but seriously, abilities with a chance to fail? Please don't use those. Nobody ends up happy with them.
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 5:37 pm EST
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but...all dittos are weak against the original...


Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 5:47 pm EST
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That doesn't make sense. O.o
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 6:00 pm EST
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'jellsprout' said:
That was unexpected. I didn't expect an Independent Miller. I thought those were always Town.


Lol Jellsprout. Yes they are, ergo...
shos
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 6:31 pm EST
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should be 'independent killer' instead


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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 8:14 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
I'd think Isa would have killed as well. Something must have blocked him.


This was mainly the reason I wanted to make the chances from the beginning. the odds are that N1 there will be one kill, and that N2 probably scum would already know that there's an SK, with either 1 or 2 kills that night, and it would terribly confuse town. in addition, the more the game goes on, the mafia is supposed to kill LESS and you are supposed to kill MORE. so I figured this would be interesting.

any thoughts on the game knowing what I said, now?


Isa
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Tuesday, September 11 2012, 8:23 pm EST
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Yeah, your reasoning sucks and everything related to chances are bad. =p
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 5:22 am EST
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'soccerboy13542' said:
2. isa seems more obvious as an independent looking back.

when he posted me as town he said "town" then corrected himself later saying "or at least not mafia. he could be the independent".
i guess you really couldn't have seen it earlier, but i'm gonna try to look for others' mistakes similar to this.

This had reasoning behind it, and not just because I was the Serial Killer - but having to make the amendment is what gave away that I knew you couldn't be independently aligned since I was it myself. =p

Reason is that I 100% believe that you had a conversation with Shos who confirmed that Mafia consisted of Dittos. No reason to have that conversation as scum, ergo, you're town...BUT WAIT, a person independently aligned doesn't know this either! Crap, I must add this too!
And that's how I ended up calling you town at first but then only not-mafia.
Isa
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 5:36 am EST
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It's pretty much a given - whenever Silver plays mafia, she has Thomas as a scumread. =p
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 6:57 am EST
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So you say Silver is mafia based on meta? O_o I never considered meta in interguild games, lol.

I'm interested, what do you think on Sniper and Harumbai?


shos
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 9:32 am EST
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'jellsprout' said:

Perhaps, but I still don't think that was very smart. By claiming Miller he made himself a perfect target for the Mafia. The Miller claim made him semi-confirmed Town. Isa is already a dangerous Townie, by convincing everyone that early in the game he wasn't Mafia he ensured his kill.
If I were town, I'd go OMG OBVSCUM for this nka. I want to see thomas' response for this when he reads it.



Isa
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 11:20 am EST
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'shos' said:
So you say Silver is mafia based on meta? O_o I never considered meta in interguild games, lol.

I'm interested, what do you think on Sniper and Harumbai?

No, I'm just saying that she's being herself.

Sniper is scum. He doesn't have any original thoughts and goes with the flow. He's good at hiding it behind long walls of text though, making it look like he's contributing.
Harumbai, I don't have a solid read on.


That isn't Night Kill Analysis, that's analyzing the play of the Serial Killer. =p Jellsprout completely misunderstands my intentions, but really - it's not a towntell to say "Hey guys, I have the sign of a Mafia painted on my back, please don't lynch me". People took it for such though, so...
And really, I am very confident that I'd be shot N1 even if I hadn't claimed Miller. That's why I made that claim in the first place, to avoid getting shot, not to avoid getting lynched. =p
Isa
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 2:34 pm EST
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Thomas isn't bleeding town, but I am surprised that he has so much momentum against him. I think he is town, but it's not clear as day.

(oh and my reads that I posted during the game? Only half sincere. Nobody should trust them to be correct - it was my job to get town as well as mafia dead, so I tried to achieve that. My plan was to kill a Mafioso for every townie lynched, and one townie for every Mafioso lynched.)
shos
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 2:37 pm EST
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mafia QT indeed doesn't have even one mention of the word 'miller'.  


Isa
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Wednesday, September 12 2012, 2:44 pm EST
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Does Mafia have daytalk?

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