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Lmao, Thomas. I though the exact same thing when I saw Kooler's post.



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Sorry to double post like Thomas, and sorry that I couldn't find the last vote count, but Soccerboy, make your vote(s) count this day. You could be the deciding factor in a lynch and the mafia will most likely try and kill you overnight cuz of your supposed role. So catch up on your reading and get to it.



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i'm reading through and am having trouble trying to find all the votes.
what's the vote count?


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Wednesday, September 21 2011, 11:03 pm EST
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UNOFFICIAL VOTE COUNT

Vote/FoS Count

DBX (3 FoS, Soccerboy, Shos, ShaveyDave)
CSD (2 FoS, Jellsprout, Shos)
Thomas (2 FoS, Jellsprout, KoolerTheFirst, 4 Votes, Soccerboy, Shos, Silver, ShaveyDave)
Silver (2 FoS, Yuggy, KoolerTheFirst)
Yuggy (7 FoS, Thomas, Silver, Yaya, Shos, Silver, ShaveyDave, KoolerTheFirst, 2 Votes, Thomas, CSD)
Jazz (4 FoS, Shos, Yuggy, Jellsprout, KoolerTheFirst)
Shos (1 FoS, Thomas)
Kooler (2 FoS, Yuggy, ShaveyDave)
ShaveyDave (3 FoS, Yuggy, Yaya, KoolerTheFirst, 2 Votes, jellsprout, Yaya)
Jellsprout (2 FoS, Shos, Thomas)

It takes 7 votes to lynch. The day ends on September 22nd.
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 1:04 am EST
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'shos' said:
and Thomas, if you say that the person with the most votes is to be lynched, I would like to have you claim, since as I said, I'm very sure you are mafia, and this is not subject to change uless you come up with some real defenses. usually you just blah blah blah(alot) and say that we need to back stuff up, that we're plain wrong, etc; these are not good enough. considering your overactivity, I would like to have you with us alive, but only in the case you prove yourself townie enough.
I misunderstood jell's question. I will not claim now because I don't have to.

'jellsprout' said:
Thomas, that was in response to the following question.

'jellsprout' said:
Guyguy, this reminds me, I have a question. What if a person gets the majority of the votes, but some people unvote him again to bring his total votes to under the threshold again before you can tally the votes and end the day. Does he still get lynched or will the day continue?


They get lynched if they've got the majority of the votes, but then had people unvote again to get under the lynching threshold before Guyguy could respond. It has nothing to do with the deadline of the day.
Sorry I must have misunderstood your question posed at guyguy. But yeah, when someone is lynched, no further votes or unvotes are counted because when someone is dead, they can't be revived, right?

'shos' said:
since it seems yuggy is out of the line
Stop saying stuff that isn't true.
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:00 am EST
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'jellsprout' said:
'Thomas' said:
Jell wants a policy lynch that what he's doing.

This is true, actually. Even if you are not scum, all your actions have been massively anti-Town so far. Everything you have done has hurt Town. Your playing is even worse than previous game, where you and only you cost the Town the game.
Even if you are not scum, I won't regret lynching you because keeping you alive is hurting Town far more.
No, my actions are pro-town. YOU are the person who is refusing to post suspicions for a 'false sense of security'. ???? My actions have helped the game significantly. I have successfully predicted the mafia team correctly on day 1 and I have brought a lot of activity to the game. I'm not the only person who has an aggressive play style so if you don't like it then you are welcome to register and account on mafiascum.net and create a troll thread about how much you don't like aggressive play styles but you'll probably get stomped on. My play is wayy better than last game. YOUR play has been anti-town and is hurting town (if you're even town-aligned, doubt it). No, it was NOT only I who cost the town-aligned players the last game. THIS IS A TEAM GAME. Harumbai was adamant that I was mafia, Quirvy decided to lynch me because of Harumbai and because YOU were staff then DBX was following Quirvy I believe. YOU were the obvscum who won because you're a staff member. OF COURSE YOU WON'T REGRET LYNCHING LYNCHING ME because you are scum, obvscum.

'jellsprout' said:
'Thomas' said:
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Soccerboy is a Double Voter. This was obvious since Day 1. This is generally a Town role and would be overpowered as a Mafia role. At first I thought he might have made a mistake in his posts, so I FoS'd him, but after reading them again it was pretty clear at the time.
You are saying this now because he claimed. I want you to tell me what AT THAT TIME made you think Soccer was town aligned. I will explain why I un-fosed Soccer yesterday.

I already explained it. I already figured out Soccerboy is a Double Voter. I kept this a secret to save Soccerboy. Now that his role is known, he will get killed tonight by the Mafia. He is too much of an advantage for the Town. I hoped that Soccerboy would be smart enough to keep his power hidden for some more time and then use his power when it actually becomes useful. Perhaps the Mafia didn't realize Soccerboy's power already, which is likely considering the responses to his role claim, and he would be spared. But now that his role is known, there is no more reason to keep it a secret. Farewell Soccerboy, it was nice to have you in the game.
Wow, way to wine in front of me. Now we know your NK target.

'jellsprout' said:
'Thomas' said:
Oh and Jellsprout I want to hear your thoughts on this scum slip:
'Yuggy' said:
I still want to be alive if I am a townie,
Notice "if".

Yuggy came clean right there and you are saying he only made 1 small mistake.


It doesn't matter if you are Town, Mafia or Independent, everybody wants to stay alive. Despite being Town, Yuggy still wants live. This is ambiguous but grammatically correct.
Staying alive is irrelevant. The keyword is "if" which suggests Yuggy is not town-aligned.

'jellsprout' said:
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Oh and Jellsprout, I remember you said you were going to keep suspicious people secret for a 'false sense of security' and so the people keep slipping up so with that logic I want you to show me all 'slip ups' on Jazz, CSD and me.

Jazz and CSD haven't been active enough, but I got plenty of material on when you still thought you were in charge of the angry mob.
So if they haven't been active then they don't have a 'false sense of security'. You have nothing against me. Your 'suspicions' and just you twisting my words and I asked for a post on why I'm scummy and instead you give me a 32,000 character post replying to most of my posts, whether something was scummy on my part or not. You want people to believe this stuff is scummy when it actually isn't.

'jellsprout' said:
'Thomas' said:
'shos' said:
I wonder what the game would be like after we lynch you.
Scummy post. You didn't say "if".

No Thomas, you will get lynched. This is becoming more and more clear with every post you make. You have been antagonizing everybody in the game, you have been insulting and you have been obsessive over minor details. Most people appear to be getting fed up with you. Even if you happen to survive today, you will get lynched another day unless you improve your game. And I don't see that happening.
This is irrelevant. I am talking about how shos failed to say "if" but instead you respond with something irrelevant because you want to confuse me into believing you proved that wrong but I don't fall for that BS, anymore.

'jellsprout' said:
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We just need 2 more votes against Thomas folks!
Jellsprout, is Shavey Dave not doing what I was doing? I don't even believe asking for votes is a scumtell but I want to know why you are not attacking Shavey Dave.

Yes, and I had already noted it. Thanks for bringing to to Shavey's attention, though. I almost unvoted after I saw his post, but in the end I figured that lynching you early would be better for the Town than risking a Yuggy lynch or riskig no lynch at all.
Okay then but it's not even scummy, at all. I am not trying to shift blame to Shavey Dave here but I wanted to know why you are only accusing one person of something others are doing as well. Asking people to vote is NOT a scum tell, and it makes even more sense to do so when someone doesn't even have their vote in use. I asked Yaya to vote Yuggy and I asked Shavey Dave to as well. Both I believe did not have a vote at that time. If someone is voting another person for good reasons then I will respect that.

'jellsprout' said:
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Could this be what Yuggy/jell is trying to do with the Yuggy case? He's (Jell is) only talking about one of the minor parts of the case and completely ignoring the rest and pretending it doesn't exist at all. Shos does the same.

No, not at all. I have not twisted around any of your words. I haven't bothered picking apart all your posts because I didn't have the time and energy to do it at the time. But everything I have said was true and I haven't manipulated the quotes.
You have twisted my words. When I say Yuggy made a scum slip, you only call it a small mistake or something.

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It was enough for my vote so not 'tiny'. Yuggy's actions included some huge scumtells. I don't feel like explaining this again but I can...

I thought you had read the Wiki. There is no such thing as "huge scumtells", especially not this early in the game. Quoting A Beginner's Guide to Being Awesome at Mafia:
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Think about it - people have been seriously playing Mafia for over half a decade, and a lot of people have come up with "tells" (hints toward clearly perceiving others' alignments) that they claim worked for them. One would think that all you have to do is follow these tells, and *poof!* the Town wins every time.

You can have suspicions, but at this point it is impossible to be 100% certain to know who is Mafia and who isn't. Unless you actually are Mafia, of course. Yet you claim you not only know one Mafia member, you absolutely 100% certainly know all three? If you actually are Town, you are so massively delusional that I wonder if you've actually ever won a game at all.
Because those words were spoken by me, that is my opinion so I BELIEVE that it's a huge scum tell. There can be scum tells at any time in the game. For you I can tell it's impossible to predict the mafia correctly on day 1, but I am professional at finding mafia which is why I knew Silver was mafia in game 1, you and Yuggy were mafia in game 2 and in a game I played on mafiascum.net, I thought someone was scum but Isa disagreed and guess what? That person was scum. For those reasons I am able to successfully predict who is mafia in this game so no, saying "U R rong u cant predict mmafia on day 1!!!11111!1" is not defense. Oh and I wasn't mafia in game 1, game 2, or this game on mafiascum.net. I have predicted all 3 mafia members but along the way the list may change. We all have top 3 suspects right? No, I have not won any games yet.

'jellsprout' said:
'Thomas' said:
I'm saying that a big mafia mistake during RVS is voting your partner and FoSing townies. You raised suspicion to your partner.

You mean like how you voted CSD?
No, I voted CSD for the purpose of proving that you can attack staff members. CSD is the most and mature staff member so by attacking the most and mature staff member I hoped that would get the message through to people.

Oh and Isa is and mature too but he isn't playing...
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:00 am EST
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YES I HAVE RESPONDED TO ALL JELLS ACCUSATIONS!
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:06 am EST
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Yuggy I see that you are not voting anyone. Yesterday you posted an updated suspicious persons list so I would expect you to be voting one of those on the list...
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:07 am EST
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O NO WUZ TAT SCUMMI 2 ASK SUM1 2 VOTEEEE SUM1 ELSEEE??!!?!!
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:17 am EST
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For the reasons on my list, and the fact he never really defended himself properly.
Vote Shavey

Thomas, what are your thoughts on Shavey?
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:20 am EST
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'Thomas' said:
O NO WUZ TAT SCUMMI 2 ASK SUM1 2 VOTEEEE SUM1 ELSEEE??!!?!!
No, because if I did not vote, then the day could end on a non-lynch, which would be very anti-town.
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Thursday, September 22 2011, 2:32 am EST
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'Yuggy' said:
Thomas, what are your thoughts on Shavey?
His mistakes have been newbie mistakes for most part. Because of that I am not voting him at this time so my vote is on you. You are the scum. I don't know if I'll have another chance to change my vote but we'll see.

'Yuggy' said:
No, because if I did not vote, then the day could end on a non-lynch, which would be very anti-town.
THAT, and asking people to vote in general isn't a scum tell. I'm just trying to get to jell.
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'Thomas' said:
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Thomas, what are your thoughts on Shavey?
His mistakes have been newbie mistakes for most part. Because of that I am not voting him at this time so my vote is on you. You are the scum. I don't know if I'll have another chance to change my vote but we'll see.

Exactly. This is my first mafia game and my mistakes are because I suck.




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Oops. I put my opinion in the quote. ****

EDIT: the mistakes I made were NEWBIE MISTAKES, as I am new to the mafia game.




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Thursday, September 22 2011, 8:50 am EST
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'Thomas' said:
For you I can tell it's impossible to predict the mafia correctly on day 1, but I am professional at finding mafia which is why I knew Silver was mafia in game 1, you and Yuggy were mafia in game 2 and in a game I played on mafiascum.net, I thought someone was scum but Isa disagreed and guess what? That person was scum. For those reasons I am able to successfully predict who is mafia in this game so no, saying "U R rong u cant predict mmafia on day 1!!!11111!1" is not defense. Oh and I wasn't mafia in game 1, game 2, or this game on mafiascum.net. I have predicted all 3 mafia members but along the way the list may change. We all have top 3 suspects right? No, I have not won any games yet.


Is your memory really his lousy or are you intensionally lying your ass off? Let me show you your very first post from the second day in the previous game:
'Thomas' said:
@Quirvy @CSD

I expected Bmwsu to be crate but I voted for him because he didn't want to post and I felt he was going to do what he did last game which I stated on day1.

'canadianstickdeath' said:
"I'm a wooden box!"
I should use quotes so you don't have to look back and see who said these things, but this post takes long enough to write as it is. The person who said it knows who he is. I have questions. Is this true or a joke? Can anybody counter-claim it? Even if it's true and nobody counter-claims him, he could still have been given that as a fake claim. If it's true, you should still not say what exactly it is that you do.
When I said this I meant that I was a crate. Like my alignment.

I'm not really suspicious of Jellsprout. I think nebnebben put a list of 5 non-mafia. Perhaps Jellsprout is independent?


FOS: canadianstickdeath
What Quirvy said.

FOS: Harumbai
Post something.


Now let me show you your final post (and the post you are responding to) on the second last day previous game:
'canadianstickdeath' said:
Apparently I'm not allowed to be wrong.

'Thomas' said:
Apparently your mafia.


You never suspected anything until the very last day when CSD (who you were convinced was Mafia all this time) turned out to be Town.


'Thomas' said:
But yeah, when someone is lynched, no further votes or unvotes are counted because when someone is dead, they can't be revived, right?


That is what I thought, but previous game CSD and Quirvy seemed to think otherwise.


Spoiler:
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'Yuggy' said:
For the reasons on my list, and the fact he never really defended himself properly.
Vote Shavey

Thomas, what are your thoughts on Shavey?


And I fogort to say, that your way of defending yourself was getting a quote off mafia scum wich said "townies mess up." Townies DO mess up though as I have proved. Also as you did.




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'Shavey Dave' said:
Oops. I put my opinion in the quote. ****

EDIT: the mistakes I made were NEWBIE MISTAKES, as I am new to the mafia game.


Second warning. DO NOT EDIT YOUR POSTS.
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well. thsi will be ny last post of tje day, so...  all i can sayy is that I hope jell, yaya, and hopefully some other active guy votes thomas and we;ll have a lynch. i will not visit the computer anymore today, so this is my final vote. gnight.


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Thursday, September 22 2011, 4:32 pm EST
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Shavey seems to be arguing that it was just a noob slip up. As I don't think Shavey will get lynched, and even lynching someone who turns out to be town, is better than no lynch. And for that reason,
Unvote Shavey
Vote Thomas
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After a long day of shouting and arguing, the judge got a headache and decided it was a good idea to throw everyone out. Everyone walked back, eying eachother suspiciously, wondering what would happen in the night.

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