« Forum Index < The Minecraft Board | POLL: Opinion about plugins: I LIKE PLUGINS I NEED LOTTTTSSSS | | 0 votes - 0% | A decent amount, to help out. | | 3 votes - 25% | Only the important ones. | | 4 votes - 33% | No plugins (Vanilla server) | | 1 votes - 8% | I'm a shos! | | 4 votes - 33% | Total Votes: 12 | | jazz |
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| | Kooler |
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go drink some water | | krotomo |
The Shepherd
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Meh, I dont really like some of those plugins.
ChopTree I don't like so much because it gets rid of lots of work you need to do to get wood.
I DEFINITELY HATE FastFood. I like the new hunger bar feature + having it take time to eat food. I think its a good thing and I don't want it removed.
One thing you should remove from regular Minecraft is this stupid enchantment table thing coming in 1.9- I just hate that idea, and I think it somewhat ruins one of the reason why Minecraft is so great. You should either ban the block from being placed or remove EXP Orbs so that you can't do anything with the enchantment table.
One thing you should add is CraftBook, it has lots of cool stuff.
Tombstone is another thing. When you die, your inventory goes in a chest (depending if there's enough space or if it's a protected area) It'll be locked, but only if you have LWC. If you right-click on it all the items go into your inventory. | | krotomo |
The Shepherd
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'Jazz' said:
1) Jailed for a few minutes
2) Ban (not permanent, only 3 days)
3) Ban (7 days)
4) Ban (forever)
I'm not exactly sure of this... I think it should vary depending on the damage done.
My system would be:
1) Warning
2) Jail for a few minutes (5 or so)
3) Jail for a few more minutes (10)
4) Ban for 30m - 1hr (TempBan)
5) Ban for three days
6) Ban for 7 days
7) Permanent ban
All these would depend on the damage you did. If someone curses in chat or something, they might be warned or something. If they level a town, it would be an instant permanent ban. Another thing is that if someone continuously does something, some of the punishments can be repeated more than once. (Once again, depending on what they actually did) | | Yuggy |
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That many plugins would also make the server lag. | | jellsprout |
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I think the Survival Server should be as close to Single Player as possible. So no plug-ins unless necessary.
| | krotomo |
The Shepherd
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'jellsprout' said: I think the Survival Server should be as close to Single Player as possible. So no plug-ins unless necessary. No please, I hate servers like that. Plugins make a server more fun and interesting, that's the whole point of them. | | Silver |
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I agree with Jellsprout. | | Kooler |
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I disagree with Jell, because having plugins, like tombstone, helps ALOT.
go drink some water | | krotomo |
The Shepherd
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Looks like we need a different poll now | | Silver |
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The problem with plugins is that they cause lag if there's a lot of them, and they also take away some of the challenge from Survival servers.
I guess we could have a few plugins, such as Creepers-Not-Blowing-Up-But-Still-There or whatever, just not a lot. I'm 0kay with that. | | Kooler |
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This should really just say "Minecraft SMP Server", because Survival is in 1.9, and that is also known as hardcore mode.
go drink some water | | Silver |
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...What? No, they are both seperate modes. Survival is different from hardcore. | | Bmwsu |
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First off, personally, I think that something like iConomy really adds to the game. It adds a new depth to the game. Something like the ChopTree one completely ruins it IMO. It means that the 40 seconds it took to chop down a tree is then 10 seconds. It makes the game too easy. I'm not looking for plugins that take away from the game, but the add to it. Ones that add a new feature to expand gameplay. I mean, on a survival server, there aren't going to be that many minetracks and such, so what good would a plugin that made minecarts into a train?
Only problem for BigBrother is that it uses a heck of a lot of resources, as it uses SQL databases for logging.
We have WorldGuard on the creative one, but it requires WorldEdit to work.
| | Yuggy |
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My opinion is that we should only have a few plugins, and not any that spoil the game such as choptree. Imo it would be best to keep the server close to a single-player world, maybe with a few added plugins for extra fun that don't change the game too much. | | Livio |
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Do you guys really need to get a new server? Can't we just create a new world on the current one and turn off all the plugins for it? At least players would be able to chat in between worlds.
I like the idea of the survival server being this (near-)lawless land where creepers roam free and you have to always watch your back and not carry too much stuff on you. | | Bmwsu |
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The reason is that it is simply easier on two servers. And it's cheaper. We pay $6 a months for 512 MB of RAM. The next level is 768 MB of RAM for $9. That's not enough for two worlds. The next level is 1.5 GB of RAM for $17 a month. I don't know if ad revenue will cover that a month.
Another thing is that if we do want just a vanilla server, no fancy ranks or anything, I can just set it to that and viola, it's done. If we had multiple worlds, it'd effect both worlds.
| | Kooler |
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I think only Jell and Silver want it to be a vanilla server.
go drink some water | | jazz |
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Maybe we should have a different website for the survival server... just to keep minecraft fanatics who want the ip away from Thomas. You know, that way people who don't care about minecraft don't have to look at tons of minecraft chat...
I also think we should have a plugin that protects your chests, furnaces, etc.
'krotomo' said:
One thing you should remove from regular Minecraft is this stupid enchantment table thing coming in 1.9- I just hate that idea, and I think it somewhat ruins one of the reason why Minecraft is so great. You should either ban the block from being placed or remove EXP Orbs so that you can't do anything with the enchantment table.
You don't need to use it... if others want to use it, they can use it. Same with potions... if you don't want to use them, then don't use them...
About the fire/TNT/other stuff that might be damaging thing... what about we make it so you need a 'permit' to use them... or use them under supervision from a mod thing...
http://forums.bukkit.org/threads/misc-permit-v0-1-2-view-issue-and-revoke-various-permits-860.21762/
Blah this post does not make any sense.
| | Yuggy |
I am a wise goat
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Is this server going to be friendly or pvp? | | jellsprout |
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'Kooler' said: I think only Jell and Silver want it to be a vanilla server.
I actually voted for "Only the important ones". I think there could be suitable plug-ins, such as ones that protect your creations from grieving and that allow admins to act whenever necessary. But plug-ins that alter the gameplay, such as the ChopTree or MyWolf plug-ins, shouldn't be included.
| | krotomo |
The Shepherd
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By alter the gameplay, do you mean stuff that really changes the game alot, like ChopTree, or stuff like iConomy, that add to it? The good thing about stuff like Towny and iConomy, even if you don't like them, is that you aren't required to use them. If there's Towny and you don't like Towny, just live in the wilderness. If there's iConomy and you don't like iConomy, just ignore the money and not buy/sell anything. | | Livio |
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Adding to the gamplay is the same as altering it.
'Jazz' said: Maybe we should have a different website for the survival server... you mean somewhere other than the Interguild? Or are you thinking of using a differnet host? | | jellsprout |
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'krotomo' said: By alter the gameplay, do you mean stuff that really changes the game alot, like ChopTree, or stuff like iConomy, that add to it? The good thing about stuff like Towny and iConomy, even if you don't like them, is that you aren't required to use them. If there's Towny and you don't like Towny, just live in the wilderness. If there's iConomy and you don't like iConomy, just ignore the money and not buy/sell anything.
In this case, both. I feel that the Survival Server should stay as close to Single Player as it can.
| | jazz |
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'Livio' said: Adding to the gamplay is the same as altering it.
'Jazz' said: Maybe we should have a different website for the survival server... you mean somewhere other than the Interguild? Or are you thinking of using a differnet host?
I mean... make a website like maybe interguild.server.org or something like that, because I don't want Minecraft fanboys or griefers to start spamming this site and annoying Thomas. But anyways...
I think just essential and anti-grief plugins, like big brother is watching you, jail, maybe permit. Anyways, if we have less plugins, we will not have as many plugin problems. | | |
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