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soccerboy13542
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Saturday, November 12 2011, 2:47 am EST
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3 votes on shos it takes one to lynch.


SHOS. GET ON.


give a chance and don't vote, seeing if he can defend himself.


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shos
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wowowow, what did I do guys, I'm in L-1 and I haven't even been on O_o

I'm doing something now, gimme 10 minutes and the I'll start writing here again, don't vote me yet


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Saturday, November 12 2011, 12:31 pm EST
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okay I'm back, now lemme post


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Saturday, November 12 2011, 1:08 pm EST
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kay so, bmw was lynched and flipped mafia, so firstly I Un-FoS soccerboy. next, yuggy was killed during the night.

"normally this wouldn't matter, but shos said that he was fos'ing me if he wasn't... :/
idk i thought that if shos was mafia then he might lynch me."
That is true. If I were mafia, I would make at least some attempt to not be lynched, you know. Yuggy was practically the only one in this game that thought I was town, right? If I'm the last mafioso it'd be the stupidest thing ever. I'd either kill soccerboy for being a doctor, or jell, for being 100% right when he guesssed bmw and myself. but I'm not mafia guys, so no go for me. it'll be awfully smart on jell's side to kill yuggy if he is mafia. it'll prevent anyone from objecting to lynching me next. how comes nobody even accused jell, of anything at all so far? he stayed under the radar quite well. the fact that he voted bmw first doesn't make it look any better imo - he was first, so it wasn't dangerous at the time and bmw was hammered quickly before he had a chance to retreat. Silver and Soccerboy had votes on them too. Silver, btw, I beg you once again, when you post, post things that are game related, you're not helping.. at least not helpipng me, what's a janitor? =\

I'll leave jells big post to the end. so thoughts - firstly, kooler is still in the game, could he be just pretending and be mafia? or is that not legit?

thomas, you voted me with the reasoning of..?

shavey, did you seriously unvote bmw? didn't you get the idea that he's dead? XD and you vote me too, like thomas, just becuase others are voting?.. you're all just following jell eh..no need to think..?



now je''ls post. :
in caps my comments start.

The Bmwsu scum-flip makes me more suspicious of Shos. I read through the previous day again, and Shos never seemed to hesitate to vote for anyone that might get lynched (Silver, Soccerboy, Silver again), except for Bmwsu. I already called him out on it the previous day before I knew for sure that Bmwsu was scum. IN CASE YOU DIDN'T SEE, I DID NOT HESITATE TO UNVOTE PEOPLE TOO. AND I DID HESITATE - I REMEMBER FOS'ING SOMEONE and then voting him after he commented, but didn't defend. bmw didn't even respond, from the first vote till the hammer. at all. so yes, he was scum, and I'd vote him to prevent a no-lynch, but you can't blame me for hesitating.

Silver is also on my scum-list at the moment. Her interactions with Thomas the previous day were peculiar to say the least. She is not nearly as suspicious as Shos, but if Shos somehow manages to proof beyond doubt that he is Town or some harmless Independent role such as Survivor, then Silver is the next person I would vote for. AS I SAID SILVER, PLEASE POST ANYTHING MEANINGFULL. you're my next suspect after jell so far, cuz you were last day, and you STILL haven't done anything against.

Soccerboy is on my neutral-list. All Doctor role claims are suspicious. They are the perfect role to claim for scum because Townies will be reluctant to lynch such a valuable player, while real Doctors are reluctant to claim the Doctor role because it makes them a prime target for the Mafia. Soccerboy not getting lynched is also suspicious to me, but it could very well be that the Mafia feared a Reflector or simply didn't know how valuable such a role actually is. This could help further deduce Mafia suspects, but that requires a lot more thinking and I don't have the time right now to do that. I am not willing to lynch Soccerboy yet, but I am keeping a very close eye on him to catch him slip. THIS IS INTERSTING. WHY IS SOCCERBOY NOT GETTING LYNCHED SUSPICIOUS? what ou said here makes sense - people won't vote to lynch a doctor. I, believed his RC, but others might not. can you remind me what is a reflector here too? i hardly believe anyone doesn't understand how important a doc is. this also reminds me - if this post isn't enough for you guys I will roleclaim.

Kooler is also on my neutral-list. He quit and hasn't gotten a replacement yet, so I don't think he could have ordered a NK. It might be that Jazz asked him to give still give a Night Action, so I won't put my hand in the fire for him just yet, but I don't think he is scum. AS LONG AS HE IS NOT REPLACED, HE REALLY MIGHT BE THE KILLER YOU KNOW. I SAID IT EARLIER THIS POST.

Thomas and Shavey are both on my town list. Both play more-or-less how I would expect them to play. Thomas is playing far less aggressive than previous game, but this could be because he learned his lesson or simpy calmed down. The important thing is that the content of his posts is pretty much exactly like in the first two games. He tunnels less, but his style is still the same. Shavey also plays exactly like in the previous game. I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THOMAS LATELY. HIS AGGRESSION IS DEFINITELY MINIMIZED. COMPARED TO LAST GAME AND THE FACT THAT HE SAID HE'LL KEEP BEING AGGRESSIVE, THIS MAKES ME THINK.
Furthermore, they also both gave the second vote for Bmwsu even when there were other lynch-candidates. They risked Bmwsu's life when his lynch was all but certain. It might be that they were trying to protect themselves by severing all ties with Bmwsu, but it doesn't feel like it. I don't think I will vote for either any time soon.




anyways, if any of you didn't get it, I'm voting jell, Vote: Jell and if anyone is still not convinced that i'm town, tell me and i will roleclaim immidiately when i see the message. I still am on l-1, you know.


jellsprout
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Saturday, November 12 2011, 1:17 pm EST
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'shos' said:
how comes nobody even accused jell, of anything at all so far? he stayed under the radar quite well. the fact that he voted bmw first doesn't make it look any better imo - he was first, so it wasn't dangerous at the time and bmw was hammered quickly before he had a chance to retreat.


There were 6 days between my vote and the lynch. I have posted when Bmwsu was at 2 votes and when he was at 3 votes. Plenty of time to retract my vote. I could have voted for Silver or Soccerboy, confirming their lynches. Yet despite everything, I kept my vote on Bmwsu and was responsible for his lynch. Do you honestly think I am the most suspicious person in this game?


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shos
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Saturday, November 12 2011, 2:17 pm EST
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if you confirmed the lynch of a townie, you would automatically be a good target for the next lynch. you needed someone else to confirm the lynch; and bmw's last votes came quickly, you didn't have such a plenty of time. just like me - but i missed my vote, you missed your unvote.


soccerboy13542
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Saturday, November 12 2011, 3:06 pm EST
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Jell was the first to vote bmwsu?
so like he said, since bmwsu was mafia he could have just called off the vote.


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Thomas
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Saturday, November 12 2011, 3:38 pm EST
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Shos, you are accusing jellsprout of something he DIDN'T do. I don't think a pro-town player would be comfortable lynching OR make up something that never even happened.
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Saturday, November 12 2011, 3:59 pm EST
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Shos, you are accusing jellsprout of something he DIDN'T do. I don't think a pro-town player would be comfortable lynching a player for made-up reasons OR make up something that never even happened to start with.

EBWOP
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 12:59 am EST
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Silver post something.
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 12:59 am EST
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well now I took the time to check back on day 1, and on page 7 you can see that jell indeed has kept his vote in the last few hours of the day. well I didn't remember that, but oh well. maybe jell's accusation was indeed wrong. Unvote.

but still, the other stuff I said did not depend on my memory, so they are objectively true. if anyone has anything solid against me except the fact that I 'hesitated' to vote bmw, tell me, and I will RC. it should take some hours for me to get back on tho, cus university and stuff~


shos
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:01 am EST
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both thomas and silver are online now, can I hear your opinions before I leave?

thomas, you need to give me the reason you voted, btw. from my earlier post.


Thomas
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:03 am EST
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Because you would vote others but you would not vote Bmwsu and your bad reasoning today for suspecting jell. Your defense is turning into WIFOM as well.
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:08 am EST
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gosh, read day one's topic; bmw posted ONCE, and he had 3 votes on him, why would I need to add another one if there is no comments from him? look at when he was last seen:
http://www.interguild.org/members/viewprofile.php?user=Bmwsu

-_-;;
I'm a watcher, I'm town..


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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:10 am EST
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Who did you watch?
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:11 am EST
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Soccerboy, cuz I thought mafia would kill him for being a doctor. I believed his claim. and I saw that he was the only one who targetted him. so that's a confirmed doctor, but no mafia catch.


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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:12 am EST
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by the way, care to remind me what a reflector is?


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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:14 am EST
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Unvote: shos
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:21 am EST
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Okay then with that logic, we can't lynch Kooler because he isn't posting.

So if Soccerboy protects you then mafia can't kill you and if you watch soccerboy then the mafia can't kill him without you finding out who targeted.

The abilities of a reflector vary by mod. The reflector can choose a player each night and that player will be blocked from any actions directed at him. Some mods may even go further and the action will be reflected BACK onto the player who made it. So if player A tries to kill player B but player C places a reflector on player B then player A would die.
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:25 am EST
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My vote isn't on shos so it should automatically go to Silver. Forget that slight town-read. Shos' role claim changes things.

Vote: Silver
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 1:37 am EST

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I would like to know your reasons for that vote, Thomas.
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 2:08 am EST
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I am not going to repeat myself.
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 2:10 am EST
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I'm sure you already know why I'm voting for you and there's not really anyway to defend against lurking and refusing to post thoughts so you don't even need to know why I'm voting for you. Stop actively lurking and only asking people why they are voting people and POST THOUGHTS.
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Sunday, November 13 2011, 2:37 am EST

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Ok. Unvote: Shos. I guess my vote goes back onto Bmw. Vote: Bmwsu. We could lynch Bmw as he hasn't posted for ages.  




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Sunday, November 13 2011, 2:38 am EST

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'Thomas' said:
Silver post something.

Post your thoughts.





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