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Yimmy
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Thursday, August 29 2013, 9:36 pm EST
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'The Adventures of Gregory' said:
At some point, Livio realizes that the roof just isn't good and that he would be better off with a new house entirely, so he builds a new house, and informs all of the party guests that he has done so, but that they don't need to worry about walking to the new house, because they are already in it.

Eventually people get lost on their way back from the separate building that contains the restrooms, and accidentally find their way into the other house. Since it's really empty, they conclude it must be the old house, so a few party guests get together and completely trash the place. Eventually all of the party guests end up in this house, and Livio realizes that this was actually the new house he built. He kicks everyone out for an hour while he restores the interior.
did anybody else notice this was a reference to the Interguild Server Transition?

also, sniper, somebody could easily apply that to themselves. in all seriousness, the average person could not apply that to themselves because they don't know what it is


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Easy; it's how likely you are to try to avoid doing math.


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Thursday, August 29 2013, 9:43 pm EST
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ok, i'll accept.


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'yimmy7' said:
'The Adventures of Gregory' said:
At some point, Livio realizes that the roof just isn't good and that he would be better off with a new house entirely, so he builds a new house, and informs all of the party guests that he has done so, but that they don't need to worry about walking to the new house, because they are already in it.

Eventually people get lost on their way back from the separate building that contains the restrooms, and accidentally find their way into the other house. Since it's really empty, they conclude it must be the old house, so a few party guests get together and completely trash the place. Eventually all of the party guests end up in this house, and Livio realizes that this was actually the new house he built. He kicks everyone out for an hour while he restores the interior.
did anybody else notice this was a reference to the Interguild Server Transition?


Pretty much everything in that party was a reference to something. I can actually go through it now as a diversion to help me procrastinate. To our older members most of this stuff should be obvious, but to our newer ones, perhaps not:

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You decide that even though you just killed one of them, and killed another earlier, this calls for a party! You invite everyone! Even the people that aren't currently in the story line.
Not really a reference to anything in itself, but this whole idea was inspired by/stolen from a post that Sefro made once on a "hatpc party in real life" topic that I think was in the staff forum.

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Most of the people are gathered in one main room, but every once in a while the staff gather in this locked room that no one else but them can access. One time Harumbai got locked out because they forgot that he was a staff member. You put your ear to the door, but hear only silence. You assume that they are just doing it for show.
Obviously this is regular forums vs staff forums. Harumbai getting locked out was a reference to someone (/people?) not knowing that Harumbai was a staff member (he was kind of an under the radar staff member back then/still now?). The silence is because we hardly ever actually use it anymore.

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You notice that Silver, Darvince and Cedric are all gathered around a box labeled "Chat". Many other people occasionally walk up to it for a few minutes, but they seem to be there the most.
At one point those 3 dominated the chatbox, as in they typically had lots of long conversations in there that no one really bothered to keep up with. I actually kept track of chatbox posts at one point just to see how lopsided it was.

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You swear that at one point you saw Haily somewhere in the room, but before you knew it, he was gone. You also notice on multiple occasions Darvince isn't actually there, and that there is instead a cardboard cutout in his place.
Rarity of seeing Haily??? Not really sure what that had to do with anything, he hasn't been spotted in years, I think. Darvince once frequently used an auto-referesher so that he would appear to be online for long periods of time, when he was in fact not online at all.

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Livio comes to the party late, but instead of partying with the everyone in the big room, he notices that the roof requires repairwork, and climbs up to fix the shingles on the roof. A few members go up to watch him, and they exchange conversation with Livio as he fixes them. Eventually CSD also climbs onto the roof, and starts pulling off shingles that Livio didn't properly attach.
I think this part might was directly taken from sefro's post. Livio coming late, because he never comes on when we want him to, it's usually a while after he is demanded? Fixing the roof = fixing up the site. CSD messing it up is him messing around with the site, pointing out all of the mistakes he made. A more accurate representation of this nowadays would have Thomas playing CSD, although that's not very well known and I don't know if he actually pushes Livio very hard to reattach such shingles.

[the rest of what you quoted] was a reference to when he made the server transition. The link you provided gives a good description of that.



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Friday, August 30 2013, 10:45 am EST
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i may not be able to do the weekly update. if i do it most likely wont have links

edit: i may be able to go to the library, so you have 3 choices: monday, saturday, or have somebody else do it


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'Quirvy' said:
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You swear that at one point you saw Haily somewhere in the room, but before you knew it, he was gone. You also notice on multiple occasions Darvince isn't actually there, and that there is instead a cardboard cutout in his place.
Rarity of seeing Haily??? Not really sure what that had to do with anything, he hasn't been spotted in years, I think.

I think this was a not too long while after the Rare Encounter custom award.
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No, I think that award had already been around for a very long time. But at the same time you may be right; it was probably a reference to the Rare Encounter award, because Haily isn't notable for anything other than being blamed for everything.



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hey, first random chat post in september 2013.
LET'S CELEBRATE.


and in other personal news, ive been homeschooled for 5 and a half years, and im now back in school. what im saying is, before now, i haven't been a member on the guild and a legitimate school student simultaneously. i joined the guild 4-5 months after i started homeschooling.

i think this calls for a second celebration.
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'Cedric' said:
hey, first random chat post in september 2013.
LET'S CELEBRATE.


and in other personal news, ive been homeschooled for 5 and a half years, and im now back in school. what im saying is, before now, i haven't been a member on the guild and a legitimate school student simultaneously. i joined the guild 4-5 months after i started homeschooling.

i think this calls for a second celebration.


I don't get homeschooling

sounds a bit depressing sitting there on your own
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some people like to be alone
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'01110000011011110110' said:
some people like to be alone


That's fine, but most people don't.
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Monday, September 2 2013, 11:56 am EST
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well so either someone likes to be homeschooled because they like being alone

or

they don't like being alone/being homeschooled but they can't do anything about it. it's the parents choice according to us/international law.

(but then again being alone might not be the biggest factor of why someone might like/not like to be homeschooled)

most homeschooling happens because disagreement with school board/religion/etc.

so does it make sense now?  
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Monday, September 2 2013, 3:19 pm EST
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homeschooled people are smarter.


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Monday, September 2 2013, 3:22 pm EST
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I don't think homeschooling is even legal in the Netherlands. You need social interaction with other children to properly mature and you need licensed teachers to properly educate you in all the subjects.


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Jell's right from my experience with homeschooled kids. I know they aren't all like this, but the ones I've met have either been extremely introverted and talk as little as possible, or they have no understanding of how to rationally communicate so they're ridiculously obnoxious and constantly weave memes/things people don't actually say IRL into their conversations because they think that people talk in the real world like they do on the internet and in TV. Meetups with other kids certainly help, but I personally think it's no substitute for the school experience.

No offense. I know I've probably just met a few bad examples.



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it's not like that when you have 7 outgoing family members

@yaya ypu just met terrible examples
@jell yeah and church is illegal to, i presume?

the things that homeschoolers don't learn are the things they shouldn't learn. you don't get as many bad examples when you're homeschooled either


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'yimmy7' said:
it's not like that when you have 7 outgoing family members

@yaya ypu just met terrible examples
@jell yeah and church is illegal to, i presume?

the things that homeschoolers don't learn are the things they shouldn't learn. you don't get as many bad examples when you're homeschooled either


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lol please don't yimmy you sound like a fool when you say that
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Studies show that yimmy is correct in this instance. Homeschooled children perform better and can be socialized easily through alternate means.

The way homeschooling works here is that every homeschooled child is test every year to make sure they are competitive with the other children. If that isn't the case, then the parents are required to enroll the child in a school. In extreme cases, failure to comply can result in a loss of custody.

As to why it works, realize that licensed teachers are primarily concerned with teach a group of students, yes? Although they can easily care for each child's education a great deal, they simply can't give as much attention to an individual as a parent working with a very small number (1-4 typically) of children. Plus, the parent has (usually) been around the child for it's entire life and has more creative controls available (No dessert until you finish your homework!).

This obviously only works through primary education and any higher level topics that the parent might have expertise in. Usually, though, after primary schooling is done, the child will go on to a college or university.


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homeschooling = living life in a bubble

regardless of socialising in general
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'snipereborn' said:
Studies show that yimmy is correct in this instance. Homeschooled children perform better and can be socialized easily through alternate means.


The problem here is that the sample pool is completely biased. Gifted children are more likely to be homeschooled by their parents because school is moving too slow for them, while the less intelligent children are more likely to stay in school. So it isn't necessarily that these kids perform better because they are homeschooled, they are homeschooled because they perform better.

In Flanders it is allowed to homeschool your children, but if and only if the parents can proof that they are capable of properly educating their children, either by showing that they themselves are suitable enough for it or by hiring a personal teacher. And even under these extremely favorable circumstances, homeschooled children perform equal to schooled children in elementary school and worse in high school.
This shows that while a parent may have enough knowledge of the basics to teach their children about the simple stuff, most parents simply don't have wide enough knowledge about mathematics, literature, history and all those other courses to give their children the necessary education.

@Yimmy: The Netherlands was founded on freedom of religion. I don't mean this metaphorically, I mean literally that one of the biggest reasons the Netherlands seceded from the Spanish empire was because the Catholic Spanish didn't allow the Dutch to be Protestants. To even imply that the Netherlands wouldn't allow freedom of religion is absolutely ridiculous.


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@jell there are plenty of kids at church.

@flashmarsh my whole family was homeschooled there whole life and we dpn't live in a bubble


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'FlashMarsh' said:
homeschooling = living life in a bubble

regardless of socialising in general


Overgeneralized statements = lack of reasoning


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'snipereborn' said:
'FlashMarsh' said:
homeschooling = living life in a bubble

regardless of socialising in general


Overgeneralized statements = lack of reasoning


Ok = I should make better arguments
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while we're on the subject of homeschooling, what do you all think about schoolhoming?
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... read the conversation


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