oh wow, suddenly a lot of posts, nevermind 2 and 4

And that's it. Nobody vote Yaya.

PEdit*2: Hey, Darvince is making some kind of sense. This is cool, I approve. The future is bright.

Right, but don't unvote until the mod post/confirms however that'll work. I'm told that all the players will know that I'm the one who did the day action.

Darvince, was that the long post?

Yeah, I thought it would be long but it isn't. I'm just short-winded at posts.

It does not say what "HR" stands for. It just says I'm responsible for protecting my colleagues from unethical working hours, etc. and then I can choose one person each night to protect (from kills). Nowhere in my role PM does it say "doctor" but I am a doc because I am protecting people (from kills).

Hey Dando is online right now...

Yep, I already sent the pm. Hopefully that happens soon...

Yaya has been pardoned by snipereborn! All votes against him have been removed, and he cannot not be lynched for the rest of the day.

Also, no to the deadline extension.

Unvote, Vote: soccerboy13542
FoS: jellsprout

Reasoning...?
Why Soccerboy over Jellsprout? Why Jellsprout at all - I don't think I've seen any anti-Jellsprout tendencies from you earlier?

Vote Count
- 3.3

Votes:

2 - Thomas (jellsprout, Darvince)
1 - soccerboy (Thomas)

6 - Not Voting (soccerboy, Shavey Dave, Yaya, Isa, Yuggy, snipereborn)

FoS:

1 - Darvince (Yuggy)
1 - snipereborn (Yaya)
1 - Thomas (Shavey Dave)
1 - jellsprout (Thomas)

Note: Darvince's vote carried over from Silver, as did Yuggy's FoS.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
Deadline for the day phase: February 9, 2012, 11:59PM Interguild Time.

My vote is at Thomas?
Unvote: Thomas

My suspicions on jellsprout are mainly him blowing the kooler vote way out of proportion and then somehow deciding that I was absolutely without a doubt scum, even though there were any number of possible reasons for a townie to vote kooler, the number one being the one I gave. Don't know about Thomas' reasons.
@ Darvince
Why?
@ Yuggy
I think someone owes me an apology. I didn't say this to jell because I have a bad feeling about him.
@ Everyone
So, if we're not lynching me today, and apparently we're not lynching Thomas today, we need to get a consensus on other minor scumtells or possible policy lynches.
PL candidates: Soccer or Shavey for inactivity.
Scum candidates: Jellsprout (reasons, though not great, above) or Yuggy (for bandwagoning on me. Also not a great case)

So. It doesn't look like I have any strong scum targets. Let's hear some arguments/evidence.
@ Thomas
Here's a tree of cases for you:
1. You're telling the truth about your role and alignment.
    a. You protect me tonight
        i. You get roleblocked. I die. You get blamed. That really sucks.
        ii. You get killed. That sucks for you, but I think you knew it was coming after you claimed.
        iii. You don't get roleblocked and the mafia tries to kill me. We win. Mafia sucks.
        iv. You don't get roleblocked, but the mafia targets someone else. You didn't die, so we lynch you.
        v. You get roleblocked. Otherwise the same as 1.a.i.
    b. You protect anyone else.
        i. The mafia kills me. You get blamed. That really sucks.
        ii. The mafia kills you. Same as 1.a.ii.
        iii. The mafia tries to kill the person you protect. No nk, we win. Mafia sucks
        iv. You get roleblocked. The mafia kills me. Same as 1.b.i.
        v. You get roleblocked and the mafia kills the person you targeted. The mafia didn't kill you, so we lynch you.
        vi. You get roleblocked and some other person dies. Same as 1.b.v.
2. You're lying.
     a. I'm killed at night. You get lynched tomorrow.
     b. Someone else is killed at night. You get lynched tomorrow.

I didn't include any of the other possible kill roles, if there are any.
Because the town has so many PRs, what do we think the chance are that they have a roleblocker? Because if I were mafia, I'd definitely roleblock Thomas (if he's town) and kill me. That doesn't help us identify them, I know.
If we lynch a townie today, tomorrow is lylo, barring the mafia being roleblocked or vigilante killed.

That's all I've got for now. I have to do my homework, so see everyone tomorrow.

Soccerboy is lurking, not scum hunting and throwing random theories out here. Jellsprout is not playing as well as last game. He doesn't post very often either but he calls it "not being online" or something like that.

What do you guys think of a Yuggy-Shavey Dave scum team? Or at least Yuggyscum? I found this post by Yuggy on D1 and when talking about Shavey Dave, he said, "if he was town." I would go after Yuggy first though. Yuggy hasn't even been playing good at all and the only reason he's still alive is because there's absolutely no obvtown players in this game and everybody is really damn scummy so he can hide. Maybe it's a Yuggy, Shavey Dave and soccerboy13542 scum team?

??? Why is Shavey telling Yuggy about an FoS on another player? Also I saw that Yuggy said Shavey was "acting scummy" (see link in last post), and then he unvotes in his next post. It's not like Shavey Dave even did anything pro-town there but inform Yuggy that he has an FoS on Jazz. When I was playing as mafia with Isa, I ALWAYS said things like "yeah Isa is scummy" but then I never followed up and voted him or really accused him. A pro-town player should not be changing reads all the time. This is a serious offence, Yuggy.

Unvote, Vote: Yuggy
We're doing this for Harumbai.

People seem to have forgotten about Yaya's bandwagoning early on which seemed to have stopped now. Maybe we have a Yuggy, Shavey Dave, Yaya scum team here. By the way, more people should re-read right now.

Well on page 10 of D1, Yuggy accused Shavey and voted him and he didn't mention him again until here. But what I thought was strange was the second sentence in Yuggy's reply where he said Shavey probably did not do the kill. That does not sound like something a pro-town player would say AT ALL. We look for scum, not whoever sent in the kill. This just sounds completely unnatural.

In this post, Shavey does that slightly suspecting your scum partner thing but really, Shavey appears to do everything Yuggy does and you should not be following somebody you suspect, right? Man, he should have been lynched yesterday.

Then, Yuggy posts is his suspicious persons list. He's got Shavey on there of course. I don't think he ever followed up on that. The Shavey wagon started later on D2 so we'll see his stance on that soon...

Okay so now Shavey Dave starts getting the votes and Yuggy starts to attack Kooler. Kooler was probably one of the weakest players (apart from Yuggy's partner, Shavey) so Yuggy must have thought he would have a better chance of getting a successful wagon on him. We know from Yuggy's suspicious persons list that he apparently suspected Shavey but when the wagon forms, he instead attacks Kooler and Silver. No attacks to Shavey.

Hey Yuggy finally showed suspicion towards Shavey... in the form of an FoS only.

Shavey was talking about explaining votes here which was kind of strange because he needs to do that as well.

Shavey says that I should claim and then he says he's happy to vote if I'm the decided lynch. But I don't like how that was worded. It sounds like he will only vote if others (the town) approve of it.

Darvince, where's that long post?

Thomas, thanks for mentioning Shavey; I completely forgot that he was even part this game.
Shavey you're ungrounded.


okay, so during that conversation with yuggy and shavey...
my interpretation...
shavey: i am suspicious of yuggy/silver
yuggy: i am suspicious of shavey/silver
shavey: i'm going to ignore the fact that you thought i'm suspicious... let's lynch silver.
yuggy: okay!
shavey: yuggy is no longer suspicious

^that's a basic summary.

i don't think that could ever happen without poor planning.

Hey I read about a theory about the scum killing those who attack them. (I think it was jellsprout or snipereborn who posted about it early on D2.) I believe shos did attack Yuggy/Shavey and I see that at the end of D2, Harumbai was attacking Yuggy pretty hard for lurking. He also didn't seem to mind his vote on one of them either.

Anyway, I think I stated at the end of D2 yesterday that it was interesting to see that Shavey Dave voted Kooler when he was already lynched. Very reckless.

http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1328254515
"Shavey post something!"
Oh my gosh, how did nobody (except tha MVP, Harumbai) notice this scum team yet?

Both Yuggy and Shavey Dave keep saying things like "Silver has been acting strange." They always use the word "strange."

Here, Yuggy is talking how Silver and he says "if she is town" but when talking about Shavey, he said "if he was town."

Thanks a lot Yuggy for informing us the deadline is in 3 days (it was actually more than that at the time) but it would help if you had suggested some lynches. I guess you wanna bandwagon though.


Anyway, that's it for now. I would like to remind you all that I have proven to be professional at finding scum and I hold a 2-0 record in 3 player lylo situations. So yeah, Yuggy is scum and he was doing alright but he attracted too much of my attention with all the town read BS on me. I probably will end up posting tomorrow but tha Canucks game is tomorrow and I have bets on it and I have soccer practice so don't expect very much from me tomorrow.

So where's the vote?

Shavey and Yuggy are both suspicious.
Which to vote?

You decide for yourself.