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shos
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Monday, October 22 2012, 3:02 pm EST
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Evening.

The sun has already disappeared into the horizon. The town could not agree on anyone to lynch, and so, everybody retreated to their safety in their own home. At least, this was what they thought was safety.

~~~

You get into your house lock the door. You shut all the windows, closng the curtains too. You prepare to bed; brush your fur, clean your teeth, get some snack. You get into bed and close your eyes.

Why can't you sleep?


You know how all those humans count sheep, right? Well let's give the idea a go.

One Mareep. Two mareeps. Three. Four. Five.

WAIT.

Did you lock the door?
You get up and check it out. It's locked. *sigh*...this is becoming a nightmare.

~~~

Dawn. You open up your eyes slowly.
You shout.
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*sigh*..
I'm still alive.
"What's wrong with you? Some of us want to sleep;" - someone else shouts from another house nearby.

You get up and get all arranged for today. It's morning already - not worth taking the risk for sleeping another half an hour.

You unlock the door and open it.

You shout.
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A figure was lying in front of you. It was big, but not as enormous as last time.

Alakazam - the town mind reader and Cop - was ambushed Night 4. Poor Yaya.

"DAMMIT! That was an important one!"

Are you saying that the others weren't important?!?!?!


~~~

After treating the knocked-out-pure-awesomeness that lied there near you, you notice that not everybody is with you.
"Hey, we're two short"

...You take a look around, and understand who is missing.

"Hey they left a note".

"Dear town;
We are sorry that we are leaving just like that. The town became a place to be feared at, instead of a Safe Heaven for us. We decided to leave you all here to take care of them yourself. What could a man and a woman possibly do against a Pokémon, weak as can be?

We fell in love with each other long ago and we intend to live happily ever after without you all. Good luck! cya!"

...what the hell?



Shavey Dave - Lt. Surge and Yuggy - Nurse Joy - both VTs - have fleed the town in pursuit of happy Dittoless lives. They have taken a plane to happyland, and were blown to pieces by an iceberg named Lollipop.
...that's unlucky. >_>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It is now Day 5.
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Nobody got my reference to a movie in the last Daystart so I allowed myself to entertain you with an iceberg named Lollipop.


Thomas
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Monday, October 22 2012, 7:04 pm EST
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Don't worry. We didn't need the cop anyway. Scum team found.

Vote: snipereborn
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Monday, October 22 2012, 7:11 pm EST
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What the hell this is mylo...


"Time is a circuit, not a line; cybernetics instantiates templexity."

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Monday, October 22 2012, 7:18 pm EST
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This is lylo. This also means you need to be careful with your vote. If all three scum are on at the same time and a pro-town player votes another pro-town player then scum can quickhammer and win. I'm voting scum though so we're good for now. Any chance of you voting snipereborn, Darvince?
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Monday, October 22 2012, 7:20 pm EST

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Monday, October 22 2012, 7:46 pm EST
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It's lylo. You're gonna have to cooperate and get your head out of your ass if you want to win this for the town. Has the thought ever occurred to you that you're still alive and have not been NKed because scum know you can help them mislynch? All those reasons you voted me in the past were knocked down and you're still voting me for no reason. You don't want to say why. If you're gonna keep screwing around then I guess we could mass claim.

Has the thought ever occurred to you that this guy everybody thought was so pro-town has not been NKed yet because he's scum? That's right. Snipereborn.
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 12:33 am EST
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Actually I'm not sure that I'm against a mass claim, I mean we have to find scum now and there aren't many power roles left and even if they get one the game is almost over anyway.

I think either Thomas or Sniper is Mafia, but I can't decide which.


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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 1:19 am EST
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I'm setting an imaginary deadline to October 29th. In case you guys didn't know a no lynch is most likely 0% chance of a town win but a lynch (if the target were to be chosen at random) would be a 42% chance of a scum lynch. We aren't picking a target at random though.

Now I'm not trying to be cocky or anything but I'm gonna remind you that I'm professional at finding scum and I hold a 3-0 record in 3 player lylo situations. I know people, Harumbai especially get annoyed when I say this but you can go read over those games and see there's truth to my scum hunting abilities.

As I said, I don't have the time or patience to write long posts so I'm just gonna ramble now about the scum team. Earlier in the game, jellsprout said a no lynch is better than lynching a pro-town player. He seems to have reversed stances though and on day 3 attempted to pursue a lynch on Yuggy for no good reason. The reason was basically "he could be scum" but that applies to everyone else. Jellsprout changed his vote as the deadline approached after the guy he suspected changed it. This is an anti town practice, first of all and jellsprout could have used this against snipereborn. Instead, jellsprout chose to join in on the mislynch attempt and vote Yuggy who has now flipped town. This is not the only person jellsprout has attempted to mislynch. He claims to have suspected soccerboy13542 since D1 for the DRIEST reasons ever. If you're gonna attack someone for simply voting or hammering at a time when it's necessary then that's a poor case. Soccerboy flipped town on D4. Now this one can't really be proven unless you're smart enough to realize my role claimed on D3 is NOT a role scum would have. Jellsprout attempted a mislynch on me on D3. The scum team knew a lynch on me would be tough which is why all scum joined in on the wagon. Jellsprout has also attacked easy targets who would obviously not be scum so long as he is. Those easy mislynch targets are Jorster and FlashMarsh. Yuggy could also be on the list. Back to D1, jellsprout did not support the jazz lynch. In the previous game, under the same circumstances, jellsprout was a part of the jazz wagon. Now you could say "if jellsprout was scum and jazz was town then of course he would join in" but there's many possibilities as to why he did not. I know that the scum in this game are distancing. Jellsprout wanted to distance himself from snipereborn, the second voter on the wagon yet just pages earlier he expressed how much he did not want snipereborn to be lynched. Or, perhaps jellsprout was not on when jazz gathered votes - it happened in hours. Jellsprout took the route of attacking soccerboy even before the flip was posted. This is because jellsprout knew jazz was not aligned with the mafia and he thought he would look more pro-town attacking someone for something right away. Because jazz was not gonna flip scum, this would not backfire on him.

Okay I had thoughts on snipereborn but I'm starting to lose them after all the jellsprout accusations I just wrote above. Let's just start by saying this is not the sniperborn we know. Again, jazz was lynched on D1 this game for essentially the same reasons as the last game. In the last game, snipereborn believed jazz was town after the lynch. Moving forward three months, snipereborn is all part of the wagon. Snipereborn was town is the last game, and did good at it, but he's scum in this game which is why he was part of the jazz wagon when that's not a normal thing for him to be a part of. On D2, snipereborn attempted a mislynch on Shavey Dave for something which I believe I later stated is not necessarily a scum tell and backup it up with evidence from mafiascum. Snipereborn very well should have known with Shavey Dave being a village idiot that this very well could have been the case. Instead he tried getting another mislynch going. Shavey Dave flipped town on D5. On D4 or something, snipereborn starting putting words in my mouth about who I suspected. See where he said I had Yaya as scum.

Yeah, by now I can see why I dislike writing these posts. Gotta get Harumbai done though. I probably don't have much to say about Harumbai; not because he makes pro-town posts but because he simply doesn't post or just makes posts revealing little information just like last game. Harumbai looked like he was actually doing something with all the analysis stuff at the start of D2 so I had him as town but his play tanked from there. My stance changed with that. Now at the start of D3, Harumbai made this post which really looks like he's trying to be too careful. The quote "Thomas would be my kill as a mafia player (As in if I was one)" shows how Harumbai had to add in the brackets to avoid any attack to his name when he already knows English well enough to make sure it wouldn't cause a misunderstanding. Clearly he is doing whatever he can to avoid any attack to his name - whether legitimate or a misunderstanding. Why was he even thinking about who would be the NK target anyway? Isn't that what scum do?? Harumbai voted me here and that is basically a bandwagon post which talks mainly about other things that went on in the game instead of actually explaining the vote. On D4, Harumbai voted me again even after I made a claim that really ONLY a pro-town player would have. I mean, your mod would have to be a 900% bastard to give scum a role like that. Harumbai attacked me for my cockiness and calling myself a professional scum hunter and stuff and asked for more information about my role which he really didn't need. Harumbai appeared uncertain about my role on page one but suddenly stated the roles being weird on page two. [post] He was pretending to be uncertain about my claim to appear as town but slipped on the following page and pretty much said my claim is legitimate and he knows that from a scum POV because of the failed NK on N2 and the failed lynch on D3. Yet he still continues to attack me. Hmmm... Harumbai joined the attempted Yuggy mislynch and then got off the wagon after I attacked him regarding that. Now Harumbai still attacks me. My theory for that is that the scum in the game are distancing jellsprout-snipereborn relations and Harumbai did not want to go with jellsprout and snipereborn and suddenly have me as town.

Now one more thing. Jellsprout continued to pursue the Thomas wagon on D3 after snipereborn made the third vote and jellsprout even called it a FlashMarsh, Thomas and snipereborn scum team after that. So with a scum read on the wagon, and FlashMarsh, who jellsprout had as scum just pages back but never explained why was suddenly so innocent, were both on the wagon. Jellsprout continued to pursue the wagon.

Jellsprout has had too many suspects in this game and all seem to be aligned with the town. I suggest you guys go back to previous days and look at voting patterns and stuff. Anyway I better post this. What was intended to be a one-liner is now super long.
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 3:59 am EST
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Well I've pretty much convinced myself to vote jellsprout here.

Unvote, Vote: jellsprout
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 4:28 am EST
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Time for a role claim.

I am Mew, a Jack Of All Trades. First night I investigated Harumbai. He came out as a Vanilla Townie. Harumbai always manages to slip under the radar when he is scum. Furthermore, out of the other prime targets, Isa had already claimed and if Thomas were Town he would get killed soon enough anyway.
Second night I protected Harumbai.
Third night I tried to NK Snipereborn. Obviously this failed.
Fourth night I tried to Roleblock Sniper. I was told this was successful.

And because I was Mew and very elusive, I couldn't be investigated. I think either Silver or Yaya has tried to investigate me at some time and got the failed response. That is why Yaya was so indecisive about my alignment yesterday.

If I make a wrong vote, the three Mafia members could just jump on the wagon and win this game once and for all. I also know that Thomas and Darvince would rather lose this game than agree with me on something. So for now I'm going to do the only sensible thing and not vote.


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Thomas
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 4:50 am EST
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Omg that's legitimate.

Unvote

You've really been screwing around in this game then. If you're just gonna claim like that then we may as well do a mass claim popcorn style. Jorster/FlashMarsh/Darvince/snipereborn goes first.

So while we attempt a mass claim I'll leave my vote off.
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 5:04 am EST
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Okay it's a FlashMarsh-snipereborn and someone else scum team. Forget FlashMarsh's little claim. Silver took an extra vote toynch as scum in one game. But snipereborn was so hesitant to lynch FlashMarsh for poor reasons.
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 5:49 am EST

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Vote: Self
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 5:49 am EST

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Unvote
snipereborn
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 4:44 pm EST
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Ok. I'm Squirtle. Three times during the game I can hide in my shell and become immune to night kills.
N1 I didn't because it was obvious that Isa would be the mafia's target.
N2 I hid because I felt like too many people thought I was town, so the mafia would want to target me.
N3 I hid again because I originally thought thomas was town and that the mafia might try to nk me to set him up.
N4 I didn't hide because if I died you all would know to lynch thomas and jell.

Here's some more evidence thomas conveniently ignored.
http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1349899760
The first thing yaya did, our cop, was say that I'm town. And then continue to say it pretty much the whole time. Thomas, would you care to explain to the group what breadcrumbing is?

It's mainly his claim that makes me suspect thomas. With him, jorster, jell, and I, we would have the power to have 4 invincible townies at night. This seems so incredibly broken, and factual unlikely given that only two kills have failed (the sk on N1 and the mafia on N2). On top of this, how is Chancey a bulletproof armorie??? That makes absolutely no sense in regard to pokemon lore, and shos specifically said that flavor was important.

I also believe that flash is town aligned because taking an extra vote to lynch doesn't really make sense for a ditto (they are weak pokemon). Also, the fact that I'm not dead already hints that thomas may be mafia because if he wasn't, they just swoop in and quickhammer. That point I'm willing to concede because the mafia might have logistical issues in organizing a quickhammer. A corollary to this is that thomas isn't dead already, even though flash is probably town and (was) voting thomas.

Still, I'm going to hold off my vote on the off chance that I've got it backwards and thomas is town and flash is mafia. It could be that thomas is pulling a shos and lied about his role as a townie, but I find that hard to believe.


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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 4:46 pm EST

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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 4:47 pm EST
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Actually, it occurs me that unless he self votes, it would be impossible to lynch flash if he's mafia. It takes 5 to lynch him.


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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 4:49 pm EST
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Oh and if jell is telling the truth, I guess three kills have failed. Hmm.


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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 6:59 pm EST
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I said popcorn style, right? Go ahead and pick who claims next, snipereborn. Even people who claimed earlier in case it was a fake claim or only part of the story.
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Tuesday, October 23 2012, 10:52 pm EST
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Well then, popcorn thomas.


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Wednesday, October 24 2012, 3:36 am EST
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Okay I fake claimed.

Shos already revealed my role name, Chansey in the flavor. But I'm the doctor.

On night one it was a tough call on who to protect. Nobody was really pro-town. I chose snipereborn for reasons I no longer remember.

On night two I protected myself, something I can do three times maximum in the game. When I protect myself at night, I cannot be lynched the next day. This explains the D3 stuff. What I didn't know about that was that it would end the day. I thought it would just say "the lynch has failed," vote counts reset and the day would continue.

With my claim, I knew I could protect someone else without scum targeting me on N3. I was stuck between soccerboy and snipereborn. I decided to go with snipereborn and thought to myself "if snipereborn is not the target of the kill, he's scum."

I decided quite a while before ( real life days before) N4 even started that I'd protect myself again on N4 so I did. Yaya was the other guy I considered protecting but I figured if I died then not as much would get done if it was only Yaya and stuff. This also makes me unlynchable again today like on D3.

I've regretted protecting snipereborn ever since soccerboy died and I wish Isa's shot killed him on N1 (Isa probably tried to kill him). So yeah, I don't know about your claim, snipereborn. Make me believe it. I can believe jellsprout's though because his kill on N3 is consistent with my protection. If you are pro-town aligned though then I'm relieved that none of my protections are on scum. That's the last thing I want to do here.


Now the reason I chose the claim I did... You see, from my POV, after N2, there was a no kill and Jorster claimed to have protected me. Maybe it appeared legitimate to others but from my POV, my doc protection on myself could have been what saved me and Jorster, as scum saw the NK on me failed and claimed to have protected me for town cred. By making a claim indicating that I wouldn't have died at night, anyway, I attempted to get this point across to others. Then I added on the part where it lasted for three nights because it would be kind of random if it only lasted for night 2.

FlashMarsh, you're next.
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Wednesday, October 24 2012, 5:16 am EST
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Oh yeah snipereborn wanted me to explain breadcrumbing so here's a URL: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Breadcrumb

I don't necessarily agree with Yaya breadcrumbing a result there though. A good cop wouldn't use the word "probably" if they knew for sure and I think Yaya is beyond that. Perhaps Silver didn't even send in any night actions. What he do know if that Yaya got an action on N3. Perhaps a guilty on FlashMarsh? I'd have to look at his posts more carefully which I'm not going to do at this time.
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Wednesday, October 24 2012, 7:22 am EST
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Thomas' new role makes a lot more sense to me so I think he is town, does this just mean that the people who haven't claimed must be scum? (I'm a VT like Jell said, in case you needed some more info which I don't think will hurt anyone I'm Professor Oak and why he doesn't have any abilities I don't know...).

Although I agree that Snipe's Role could very easily be faked. I mean all you need to do is not die and you can say you had a role like that... Although it would be consistant with Jells Trying to kill him. Alternatively he could be the Godfather so then I think Snipe is either Town or the Godfather.

I have exams day after tomorrow so I'm not sure whether I'll manage to post tomorrow.


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Wednesday, October 24 2012, 7:32 am EST

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I'm Togepi. I'm so cute that it takes one more vote to lynch.
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Wednesday, October 24 2012, 12:29 pm EST
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