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jellsprout
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 6:46 am EST
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'Harumbai' said:
Thomas has 3 lynches on him right? So he is probably not mafia because that would require all the town people to be voting him other than me? So it is likely scum is involved? I don't know anymore.


You could still be Mafia. It might still be possible that you are the Godfather. And for all you know, I could even be Mafia. It might even be that Flash, Jorster or Sniper is Mafia but that they merely voting for Thomas so it appears they are on different teams. Though with Thomas at L-1, this is unlikely. And even then, it is possible they are sacrificing Thomas to assure the victory. Even if we lynch Mafia today, we are still in Lylo tomorrow. And if Thomas gets lynched and flips scum, nobody will suspect Flash and Sniper anymore. So they can just get Darvince lynched the next day and still win the game.
There are still too many possibilities to conclude that Thomas is Town.


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snipereborn
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 12:21 pm EST
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'Thomas' said:
I'm not clicking any of your outbound links. If the mafiascum wiki is so reliable then I better go edit it to say you're scum.

"I know you just proved me wrong on all counts, so I'm going to disparage the source that I love to cite."

'Thomas' said:
You know, your accusations are so stupid.

"I have no argument, so I'm going to call you names."

'Thomas' said:
You brought this upon yourself. You voted me for stupid reasons, I point out those stupid, illogical reasons then it just escalates.

"I wanted you to just lay down and die, but you fought back and I can't have that. Also, you're stupid."

'Thomas' said:
First you call Yaya's post a breadcrumb, I'm against that (probably the only person who mentioned that) and then I'm scum for that.

"I definitely can't have the town following the cop, so I'm going to give terrible reasons for why what happened didn't actually happen."

'Thomas' said:
You then feel you don't have enough reasons for voting me so you decide to add in this crap about my role being overpowered when that wasn't part of your original reason on page 2 or something of this day.

"Reality doesn't support me, so I'm going to change it to suit my needs."
Where I voted Thomas. Notice the second sentence.

'Thomas' said:
I proved that to be BS so now you're saying I'm scum because of something I said to prove your other reason was BS.

"I didn't prove anything, but I'll say I did to make myself look good and you bad."

'Thomas' said:
Not something I would have normally said. I do STRONGLY disagree with that stuff about analyzing the setup though because it's something you do in lylo - you look at everything.

"I know my role is badly claimed, but if I can make people believe the setup is bad enough, it should be ok."

'Thomas' said:
Darvince is town because we know there's one other mason alive and he claimed it. Nobody counter claimed. Mason is a town role, FYI.

"I assume that everyone, except you, is exactly what they say they are. Townies never lie about their roles either (except me, of course)."

'Thomas' said:
You seem to think jellsprout is town, he said Harumbai is town.

"The Godfather role doesn't exist."

'Thomas' said:
For those reasons, you need to explain how this Thomas-FlashMarsh-Jorster scum team works. It's not for me, it's for those who need to make a voting decision in the next few days (though I will argue any or your stupid reasons).

"So, you need to ignore all of giant holes in my reasoning and play the game the way I want you to. However, it doesn't really matter because no matter what you say, I'm going to oppose you."

Well, this is it. Thomas is going to get the last word on me because I now am going V/LA. I'll have my phone so if anything new comes up I can still change votes and such, but long posts are unlikely.  


Everyone runs faster with a knife.
snipereborn
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 1:14 pm EST
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Woops, forgot to
V/LA till sunday


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shos
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 6:10 pm EST
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Reminder: deadline is in thirty hours.


Thomas
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:18 pm EST
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I did not say any of the above quotes posted by snipereborn. For someone who is adamant about my inabilities, even outside of my own admissions, this is a serious mistake. Please in the future do not attribute the words of others to me.

Snipereborn is really big on putting words in other people's mouths... And that's not a good thing, right?

Anyway if you guys really let this day end without a lynch then I'm never joining another game on this site or supporting anymore games in the future.
FlashMarsh
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:28 pm EST

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what

just look at your final post on the last page
Thomas
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:30 pm EST
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Pardon me?
FlashMarsh
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:50 pm EST

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such a liar

please guys, just check his former posts and you'll see his says all of these things
FlashMarsh
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:51 pm EST

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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:53 pm EST
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So what's this problem you have with that post?
FlashMarsh
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 7:59 pm EST

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You claimed you did not say any of te things which Sniper said you did.

BACKPEDAL FROM THOMAS NIT LIKE THAYS EVER HAPPENED
Thomas
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 8:02 pm EST
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Looks like chainsaw defense on your part.
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Thursday, November 8 2012, 10:20 pm EST
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Harumbai, you're on so let's talk about this.
Thomas
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Friday, November 9 2012, 3:28 am EST
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So I finally had a chance to go over day 4 again to see Yaya's thoughts on snipereborn. It doesn't look good.

http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1350009844
'Yaya' said:
I didn't really think Sniper rushed his vote on you, Jell. To me it seems like he didn't rush it by incorporating stuff from previous days. I was rereading D2/D3 though and I can see why you think it's strange how he changed opinions so quickly. He's a little less town in my eyes, but I still think the chances of him being scum are slim.

http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1350600682
'Yaya' said:
I think Snipereborn is more suspicious now since he voted Yuggy after openly admitting it wasn't much more than a policy lynch.

So it looks bad that Yaya died after slight attack to snipereborn's name at the end of the day, but I don't use WIFOM so I'm not basing this off the NK. What's worse is that he then tried to use Yaya's words to support his town claim. He presented this "proof he was town" at an odd time as well; in the process of claiming. It just seems odd because when you claim, you have one thing on your mind: claiming your role. He included strange information such as the "proof he was town" which doesn't seem natural when one is claiming because one would typically be focusing on getting their claim out there. It makes it look like it was written in advance with more thought and caution put into it (and the random stuff at the end to divert attention).

I don't know if this is allowed...
Mod: Can I ask someone to paraphrase their win condition in their role PM?

I believe all pro-town players would receive the exact same win condition and there's different ways of wording them so snipereborn, I want you to tell me (if shos allows this), how many words the win condition in your role PM contains, and what the fifth word in the win condition is. I can then see if this matches up with mine.
Thomas
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Friday, November 9 2012, 3:34 am EST
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One more thing: if you guys want to see an example of a game where I prove the guy who looks most town in lylo is scum, check this out. Just read from there until the last page, I guess. I'd also link to open 354 which was another lylo I won with that same technique but it appears part of that game was lost in the mafiascum crash.
shos
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Friday, November 9 2012, 9:21 am EST
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Paraphrase? No probs. 14.666 hours to deadline


Darvince
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Friday, November 9 2012, 11:28 am EST
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Win condition has:
10 words
Fifth word is "are".


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jellsprout
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Friday, November 9 2012, 11:52 am EST
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I have to go in a few minutes and I probably won't be able to make it on later tonight, so I can't properly explain myself right now.

Vote: Thomas


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FlashMarsh
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Friday, November 9 2012, 11:57 am EST

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thats him dead
shos
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Friday, November 9 2012, 2:14 pm EST
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Topic locked for suspense!!!

who knows what is going to happen?!?!?!

you all will, on Sunday...


shos
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Saturday, November 10 2012, 8:05 am EST
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*drumrolls*....


tomorrow ;P


shos
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Sunday, November 11 2012, 12:58 am EST
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  Votecount!!

Thomas (4) - Flashmarsh, Snipereborn, Jorster, Jellsprout
Snipereborn (2) - Thomas, Darvince

Not voting: Harumbai (1).

it takes FOUR votes to lynch.


A lynch has occurred.
Or has it?

You'll know when I wake up cuz I'm dead tired


shos
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Sunday, November 11 2012, 9:36 am EST
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The town has decided. Chansey literally ran away from the lynch we tried to have earlier. Chansey is a doctoring and helping Pokémon, not one that runs so quickly. He must be a Ditto, a fake! Surely this time he won't be able to run away. Let's block his way and get him.

Thomas did not attempt to run. He shouted, "it is not me! I am really a chansey! I just ate my egg that night..."

Alakazam, Togepi, Squirtle and Dragonair closed in on Thomas and attacked.


Thomas has been knocked out.

Spoiler:


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shos
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1.
2.
3.
Hello ____.
You are a Ditto. You can imitate any Pokémon nearby you; you take the exact form of the Pokémon and can use all of its abilities. The imitation is so good that literally nobody can tell between you and the Pokémon you imitate. At night, you turn into a rock to avoid being attacked.
Your fellow Dittos are ___ and ___ , with which you can talk during nights. During the day you all are hidden from the others in the forms of other Pokémon, so you can only try and whisper to each other when nobody sees.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
**Perfect Copy. Your transformation is so flawless that nobody, as in NOBODY - can know if you're a real Pokémon or a Ditto. (This means that you have full immunity to cop investigations.)
**Ambush. When you copy a Pokémon, you copy its abilities too. But most regular Pokémon are experienced in their abilities and so are stronger than you in a fight. This means that not always will you be able to overwhelm your opponents alone. With your team, you can choose a target, and all transform to it. Then you all go and ambush him. The odds that the Ambush will work and you will be able to knock out that target are calculated by:
((Number of Dittos alive)-1)/3.      (factional kill)
**Friends (factional communication). You know who your fellows are - so at night, you all turn to rocks together, and talk. You can talk in this QT at night. (nighttalk)
**Secrets (factional communication). You also know what your fellows appear like of course. You can try whispering to them - twice a day, in the same QT. (limited daytalk)
**Almost Psychic. During the night, you and your team can choose to have one of you transform into an Alakazam for the night. If you do that, he will be able to read the minds of someone of your choice, and know his role. (rolecop)

WIN CONDITION:
Since alone, one Ditto cannot do anything too amazing - as a group - you must win together. If there are at least two Dittos alive, and they represent at least half of the living players, and nothing can knock them out, the three Dittos win.
If two Dittos die - they lose. The last Ditto recieves the win condition of a Lyncher: His goal is to fool everyone, forever. If the one you are impersonating is gone - nobody will be able to tell you are a Ditto. That Lynchee's identity, of course, depends on which Ditto that is, and will be recieved from the mod if such a condition happens. You also need to survive through the game of course.


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4.
5.
Hello ___.
You are a Nido___. You are a massive being, fully evolved from the tiny Nidoran. You are strong, but you have no super awesome powers beyond that.
What you do have apart for being strong is - family. ____ is your Nido____ wife/husband. You are pretty sure that you're not dating a Ditto, if it wasn't clear.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
**Family: You and your ____ can talk anytime here. (masons)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.



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6.
Hello ____.
You are Alakazam. I assume that I do not need to tell you anything, since well, your IQ is around 5000, and you probably know everything there is to know, and probably can even read my own mind, yes? Uh..well.. yeah. So uh, I'll just talk on and on, and you'll correct me if I'm wrong, mmkay? So you evolved from Kadabra, who knows when, which means you're super awesome. Your head is so big - in fact, it just keeps growing as you learn more and more. Your mind is so strong you can outsmart a supercomputer. You know - the legends say - "Once it evolves into Alakazam, it has mastered every type and form of psychic ability, and its brain continually grows.".
So that means you're psychic, right?

...right?

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
**Psychic. On every night, you can pick any Pokémon and investigate it with your psychic abilities. Surely, you will see what species that Pokémon is, and hopefully, you will also be able to extract the information that you seek - its intentions.. (cop)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.


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7.
Hello ____.
You are Chansey, the Egg Pokémon. You always show up in hospitals and stuff, because of your Egg's powers. Each day you lay a new egg - and hold it in your pouch.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
**Enstrength. Your Egg - it is nutritious, tasty and sublime, and since you are such a kind-hearted Pokémon, you may share your egg with anyone you want. That egg will enstrength that one, and will make him immune to being knocked out once, in that night. If you want - you can keep it and eat it yourself. You will live to the morning - and you will be able to run startlingly fast - so fast that even if the town wants to knock you out together at day - you will be able to run away and survive. However, if you eat too much, you'll start getting fat, and might run slower... (doc)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.

NON-SPECIFICALLY TOLD MECHANICS:
can selfprotect only once.
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8.
Hello ____.
You are Gengar. The Pokémon of the Shadow. You are mean. You are sinister. And mischievous. Having red eyes and a wicked grin on your face - and such a character - you hate everyone. You are malicious and you enjoy your victims' terror; it's a delight for your eyes. You are able to lay curses and steal the lives of some - those who become lost in your territory.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
**Terror. On every night you walk onto one player of your choice silently and take over his shadow. If the opportunity comes - you will terrorize the poor thing into madness. An opportunity comes, usually, once in every two attempts. But who knows, maybe you'll succeed more!...Or less.(SK kill)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when everyone (but you) is dead, or, when nothing can prevent that from happening.


SECRET MECHANICS:
with every successful kill, Gengar gets stronger, since he devours his victim's soul. This could lead to
lynch immunity (one-shot)
kill immunity (same)
increased kill chance to 75%(passive forever)
gain cop ability
gain roleblocker ability (2-shot)
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9.
Hello ____.
You are Togepi. Being the only Pokémon in the group who can but hasn't evolved yet, you are just so cute. And you are such a tiny thing. So innocent and full of wonders.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
**So cute. Your cuteness is enormous. It is a passive ability - the group needs one more vote to have you knocked out. (innocent child)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.



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10.
Hello ____.
You are Lt. Surge, or in Japanese, Matis. You are the Gym Leader of Vermilion City, and are a very, very experienced electro-aligned Pokémon trainer. However, you are nowhere near your Gym. Unfortunately, that means you're just as confused as can be about whatever is going on around here.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
(You're a VT)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.


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11.
Hello ____.
You are Ash Ketchum(not Kethcup dammit!), or in Japanese, Satoshi. You want to be the best Pokémon trainer in the world, and for that, you have left Pallet town when you were ten years old. Crazy madman if you ask me, but hey, suit yourself. This whole mess started and you have absolutely no idea what is going on. Ditto is one of the Pokémon you have yet to catch, so this whole situation confuses you, and you want to win so that you can catch one of those Dittos.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
(You're a VT)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.


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12.
Hello ____.
You are Prof. Samuel Oak, or in Japanese, Dr. Orchild, since well, you're just not cool enough to be a professor in Japan. You're 50, which is quite old compared to everyone related to Pokémon, but you have lots of insight and knowledge about Pokémon. This doesn't make you a match to a hidden Ditto though - you, too, can't differ a real Pokémon from a Ditto copy of him.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
(You're a VT)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.


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13.
Hello ____.
You are Nurse Joy, the kind and smiling nurse from..well..from literally any Pokémon hospital you can find in the freakin world. It is little known but, Joy is actually your last name, and that is why there are so many Nurse Joys. Well, you are one of them. As far as you know, there is no cure, potion or berry that can tell between a Ditto and a Pokémon it copied.

Your abilities:
**Vote. Obvious ability is obvious.
(You're a VT)

WIN CONDITION:
You win when there are no more threats to town.

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GaME START!! roles will be distributred with random.org.
3   -Jorster
7   -Thomas
10   -Shavey
13   -Yuggy
12   -Buboy =====Harumbai
6   -Rocketguy =====Silver=====Yaya
8   -Isa
1   -Jellsprout
5   -Soccerboy
9   -Conzy =====Flashmarsh
2   -Snipereborn
11   -Jazz
4   -Darvince

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OMIGOSH JAZZ IS TEH LYNCH
..
Night one:
Isa kills Darvince - EPIC FAIL 0/3
mafia ambush Isa - EPIC WIN 3/3
Silver cops Jorster - 'no result'
Sniper rolecops Harumbai - VT
Thomas protects Sniper successfully
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Night two:
mafia ambush 3/3 again
Silver does not send action
Thomas protects successfully

~~
I did not write in the notepad file about the next nights, so meh.

you can read the QTs, the links are good.

good game
any comments on the balance will be appreciated >< I already got flamed by Isa correctly lol


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Sunday, November 11 2012, 9:48 am EST
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oh and I added pics to the role PMs lol



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