I think this is bad reasoning. What if scum targeted me N2 and not you? I think that's more likely, given how I was playing at the time.

I think we should see what jorster says. I'll explain why after, though I think you might be able to figure it out.

Has there seriously only been a single post since two days ago?

I guess I'll prod dodge. What else can I do right now? I think no one is doing the popcorn style claim anymore.

Does the fact that Flash and Darvince haven't claimed suggest that they are mafia and can't think of good cover role?

No it's because I haven't been asked yet.

actually I have claimed you unintelligent person
Removed for spam. /Isa

Well deadline is still there...

Well I think your crap is bad reasoning because you're trying to figure out the NK target on N2 when it really has no significance when it comes to scum hunting.

If FlashMarsh isn't gonna choose the next claimer then Darvince is going. Jorster is not here apparently after he was talking about how he's so active in the game while in high school.

I find it very peculiar that one the night I tried to kill Sniper, both Thomas and Sniper have claimed to stop that kill. I didn't think Sniper would be that obvious a target that night, so I'm surprised that both Sniper and Thomas decided that night would be perfect to stop a kill on Sniper.
I lost a lot of my trust in Thomas when it became clear he fake-claimed and I haven't trusted Sniper since D3, so I'm very fairly certain one of them, if not both is scum. So what I would like to know is why Thomas decided to protect Sniper that night and why Sniper decided to hide that night.

I am the other mason.

Now you're just outright lying. What part of that post suggested we try to figure out who the target was? I was pointing out that you were assuming you were the target to make yourself look town, even though there are many other options.

Also, Flash did claim.

The question is whether or not that's believable.

just reminding.

OKAY OKAY. Give a bloody vote count.

You lost trust in me due to my fake claim??? So I should have claimed doctor instead when I was in a position where I could make a decent claim which made me not be a NK target and give me a chance to try and prevent the NK? I already explained why I protected snipereborn on N3, too. I can also provide you a few quotes from a one-sided conversation I had with Isa after I voted myself on D3 (Isa only said "lol" or "we'll see," etc.):
then when the next day started...


Darvince, what did you talk about with soccerboy? Any breadcrumbs or anything? What do you think the scum team is?

Let's try and get this day over before I hit 2,000 posts, okay? I don't want to feel obliged to make some fancy post anytime soon. But I wanted to say you guys shouldn't trust Harumbai's VT crap. How many VTs would that be in the game? 4? 5? Jazz, Shavey Dave, Yuggy, "Harumbai"? I don't know. I don't believe scum is very powerful though. Some guy said a ditto means you don't have much power or something.

The first thing that's actually about the game in there is me saying I think you, jorster, hellsprout, and one of the 3000 replacements on D1 was scum (this from D1), soccer discovers we're masons. We then discover it's both night and day thing. Soccer complains that he's been screwed over by shos telling him that the mafia are dittos, and then gets nuked by the mafia.

Have there been any votes?

Actually I suppose since no one else claimed the other mason when they were free to Darvince probably is the other one.
And I'm sorry for missing your claim Flash, I looked on the first page briefly, but must have missed it because it was quite short. I still don't think there was any need for your reaction.

I can't get over thinking Thomas or Sniper is mafia. I don't know which though, and so much for Thomas for knowing that Jell and I were scum...

Ninja'd
Oh yeah Thomas that what I was thinking about the roles being weird when I saw some more VTs turning up and the Jorster being a semi doctor, I thought the town was seriously underpowered.

Well it's not Darvince, probably not jellsprout so it's a pool of snipereborn, Flashmarsh, Jorster and Harumbai. I'd have to go back and actually look at what little interactions those listed have had in the game but I would be fine with a lynch on snipereborn, that's for sure.

I'm lying? So it does help to find the NK target on N2? How so? From my POV, I know I'm town and can therefore make that assumption.

"even though there are many other options"
No there aren't. Your claim is fake, the other claimed doc protected me, I protected myself, so the only other option is that scum no killed but there's no reason for that. Nobody has claimed role blocker or anything. Oh yeah I guess jellsprout protected Harumbai on N2 if I remember correctly but who'd kill that guy? He's not even playing well.

"pointing out that you were assuming you were the target to make yourself look town"
So everybody is trying to look town. Why single me out? This is poor reasoning.

Vote: Thomas
He does nothing but lie. He lied about his role, he always lies about what I'm saying, even when he quotes me saying the exact opposite.






My claim isn't fake, you seem to just be remembering what you've done. I think you just saw jell say he tried to kill me N3 and said you protected me to look legit and you just claimed this magic self-protection-unvotable crap to explain why you havn't been the mafia hasn't killed you yet. More than that, our cop breadcrumbs me and yet you still just ignore it completely saying "oh, cops don't say probably". What's he going to say then? "Hey guys, I know sniper is town, just saying." Townies arn't the only ones who can pick up cop trail, so I think you just saw that at night and killed him so he couldn't lead the town today.

l-2 on Thomas

...soooo, nobody cares about what's happening? Four and a half days to go and we're in lylo.

That's because the three mafia are all trying to lynch you

Nice observations, buddy. Now what does this have to do with having an anti town alignment? I swear I have fake claimed as town in previous games or considered it and nothing has changed with that in this game. In this game on mafiascum, ZeekLTK, as town, fake claimed doctor and later claimed VT in a 3 player lylo situation. It threw me off for a while but then we ended up lynching the correct guy and that counts as one of my 3 player lylo wins. So there's times when I can lie and get away with it, as town. This is one of them. I have now come clean with my true role at a time when it is necessary and explained the reason for the fake claim (which ZeekLTK did in that game as well), it all adds up too yet you continue to pursue this for bogus reasons.

I think a doctor claim looks "legit" when you claim to have protected anyone. No, you're not that pro-town guy everybody wants alive. I already stated the reason for the fake claim so you can go back and read it. I made that post for a reason, you know. Gee, Yaya must have been really uncertain as to whether he was a sane cop or not to use the word "probably." Truth is, that's not a breadcrumb. A cop can still have a town read on someone they have not yet investigated and if they are using "probably" to describe one's alignment, I can guarantee they have not investigated that person. For that reason, it's not a breadcrumb, no.

Omg, are you serious? That's 100% WIFOM. Ridiculous.

Vote: snipereborn

I only decided to vote you after I read the part about the night kills.

Now you guys with all the "it's Thomas or snipereborn" crap, what do you believe the scum team as a whole is if I'm scum or if snipereborn is? At this point in the game, you can probably make a pretty good guess.


Darvince, you gave me who you thought was scum on D1 but what about at this present time? I know you thought jellsprout was or something. Do you still believe that?

I still believe that hellsprout, maybe jorster, sniper, and maybe harumbai are scum.
Vote: snipereborn
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One thing I meant to mention days ago was how Jorster claimed doc and said he does not receive a PM stating whether said protection was successful or not. I do as a doctor so I'm wondering if a mod would really mix things up like that. All protections were successful for me as far as I know expect for night 4 which I never received a result probably due to a show confusion moment. But scum is safer fake claiming doc if they don't have to give out information about whether the claimed protection was successful or not in case a town roleblocker counter claims or something.

Maybe in this setup scum are given free fake roles on request or names of pokemons not used in the setup because these claims sound legitimate but I have a hard time believing there's all these protective roles in the setup.