To what Isa said, I'm not refusing to post here. Until recently, the only posts on this board were people talking about the lack of posts and some thin air accusations. I had no reason to. I'm not gonna hold that against you though, because I think you were just making a point, which was well made. I just back on after about 2 hours (Avatar extended edition) and found +5 new posts so I didn't have time to rebutt (verb format of rebuttal?).

As for my suspicions, I don't have any at the moment, now that the 1st week is over, everyones acting pretty indifferent towards the deaths. I'm just seeing how others react for now, so I'll sit back and eat popcorn till something happens.

DAMN! I unintentionally spent my 2000th post defending my indifferent ass, and I can't even edit this footnote into my post because of the rules, so I'll put some victory smiley in this post.

But that's not how the game is played.

I think Isa said last thread 'Reading =/= Posting'

Something along those lines.

Ninja'd. Happy 2000th post.

Yes, well, the reason I didn't post at all really yesterday is because I didn't have the time to type up a 500 word post summing up what I thought of the 3.5-ish pages that I read.  I didn't post between them, either, because I never read them until the very end.  It's not like I didn't read any of it, and then just say what I said on my own ideas.  I did listen, and people said exactly what I would have said, so if I had actually posted my opinions at the time, it would have been redundant.  My thoughts on that.

There really wasn't much to post about yesterday, and I wasn't feeling risky and starting the conversation, like Isa.

I am a bit suspicious of Thomas. He hasn't really done anything to redeem himself after the suspicions of yesterday and he is the only person who would benefit with Woodstock being removed from the game. It is a weak suspicion, which is why I haven't FoS'd him, but I still find him suspicious.

There's not much to say yet the day just started! When people say yesterday is this yesterday in IG time or mafia time?

I mean mafia time.

I am also suspicious of Thomas, but it's a rather weak suspicion, although reading other people's comments makes me agree slightly, plus you never gave a proper reason for FoS'ing me yesterday...

But I will FoS if things start getting up a bit more, after all the day has pretty much just started.

The previous day, 22 FoS were already given by this time.

There's no extra lead this time, though.

HUGE post coming up





You guys need me over here, because right now, nobody has any theories except that Thomas is acting slightly suspicious. Other than that, we got zilch, zero, nothing.

I do NOT want to be suspected for being Mafia for this post, because if so, then...well, you haven't learned your lesson. Suspecting people because they come up with theories is a very good way to kill the game, because after all, why would you take the risk? We've already heard people say the same thing:
See what I am talking about? It should NOT have to be considered dangerous to post your thoughts on something. We're missing out on a lot by doing that. We'd know a lot more about Guyguy than we do now, and also more about the participants that would respond to him.
Related to that, is this:
We know close nothing about Bmwsu's train of thoughts, because he felt like it would be redundant to post his thoughts on certain things after everyone else. It is NOT redundant. It is a necessity for us to know what you're thinking, but if everyone just thinks that "Well, he/she summed up my thoughts perfectly, no need for me to take the risk to act in the open and state my opinion", you're not only denying the rest of us a chance to analyse you, you're also refusing to help others act up. If only one person attacks me, it may not be very urgent for me to defend myself, but should two or three persons cast a FoS or vote on me, I have no choice but to defend myself. Please, everyone, don't refrain from posting.


While this seems innocent enough, it certainly makes the game harder to play for the rest of us. Up until the point that this was posted (and frankly, afterwards as well), we know nothing about your potential suspicions and reactions to the voting phase, the night killings, and what has happened so far on this day. Simply posting that you haven't observed anything special is good enough, but if we have to provoke you to say it, then this game will turn out annoying. We still don't know anything about what roughly 50% of the remaining participants think this day.

Finally, accusations and theories.

I have a theory about Soccerboy. He has posted four times so far - first, to FoS Thomas with the motivation that he thought Thomas was spreading accusations in order to make people forget about himself (a very weak reasoning, by the way, as I posted in the other thread), he then un-FoS'ed Thomas and FoS'ed me, saying "No reason really, Isa just seems suspicious...". His final post Mafia-yesterday was a joke, not relating to our discussion. Now, his last post Mafia-today was a new FoS towards me because I hadn't posted.

Nobody has thrown any suspicions towards him previously, which is most probably part of the reason why he hasn't posted more, nevertheless I think that all he does is throwing theories out there once in a while with a very simple reasoning to back it up, in order to avoid the discussion of being too inactive, while not taking any huge risks - ideal for a Mafia member. I'd cast a FoS at him, if it weren't for the fact that he started the actual FoS'ing this day. I think that alone nullifies my theory of him potentially being a Mafia, because being the first to FoS someone will draw attention towards you, which is contra-productive in this scenario, considering that my theory revolves around him not wanting any attention at all.  Of course he may have thought of that and therefore decided to start the accusing, but I honestly doubt that. To sum it up, I think Soccerboy is a townie who's just slightly afraid to draw attention to himself.

Thomas, though...first post was a FoS towards Silver with nothing to back it up. Second post was him saying that it wasn't needed to back up your theories. Only in his third post did he state his reasoning behind his FoS - essentially, because Silver FoS'ed Bmwsu, and later because Silver FoS'ed him after he FoS'ed her, and even later, because she un-FoS'ed him (lots of FoS here...).

If we stop right there, I think all of that is utter bullcrap, especially getting more suspicious of her when she FoS'ed him right back seems very odd - I would have done the same, and Soccerboy was in fact FoS'ing Thomas prior to Silver.

Continuing, his fourth post is informing Woodstock about FoS, fifth post is him saying that he thinks I'm a Mafia member because I write long posts about people to make everyone forget about me (I've already countered that multiple times, check other thread), and when I replied to it, he didn't write anything about, so I can't tell if he still thinks the same. Last post yesterday was a vote towards Jorster. Today, we have what's essentially a joke post, and finally the post four posts above this one, saying that it's too early to suspect people.

Keeping in mind the pretty large amount of FoS'es he got yesterday (5!) and that none of his posts defend himself from them except for possibly one, the fact that he was very unwilling to back up his FoS and that when he did, it was to me a very poor reasoning, and his unwillingness to communicate, I think that there's a very high chance that Thomas is a part of the Mafia.

FoS: Thomas

Arrgh, dammit Isa, I hate it when you post really good evidence, because then I'm tempted to agree with it, and seem like a rubber stamper, but rubber-stamp-haters be damned: Thomas is really the only member who has not been able to legibly defend himself throughout the game. Everytime he's tried, it's pretty much been hot air defense, or I-don't-need-to-explain stuff. Also, he's posted on this thread once, only to half-jokingly blame another member. I think he's realized that's he's said too much/too little, so he's laying low, thus not coming on to defend anyone's minor suspicions of him. So....
FoS: Thomas

And I am interested to hear Bmwsu's "theory", he's been talking about it, and says it's pretty big, so some good evidence might be in there....

Un-FoS: Isa
FoS: Thomas
Dang Isa's good. I totally agree that Thomas is looking suspicious. Also, CSD, how could we know that Thomas is not getting help from Icecave members?

FoS: Thomas

^What Isa said. Btw, he's really influential^

Damn you Isa, you're so full of influence you're dragging me in.

Of course I would still be suspicious of Thomas, with the no-reasoned FoS against me. Come on, guy, what's your reason? It's not gonna bring across the end of the world (unfortunately most people believe this will happen).

FoS: Thomas

So, I'm going to be gone until next Saturday or Sunday, so I will not be posting this day. (Maybe the day before it ends.)

Isa I still think your Mafia and you're trying to take attention off yourself. You just got 5 people FoSing me. Your objective is to kill the town so your convincing people to FoS me. I am suspicious of jellsprout. Yesterday he FoSed himself and Isa just to stir stuff up I think he said. Isa didn't comment on that afterwards because he knew that if he did it would bring attention back to both of them. I also think Harumbai is Mafia because he doesn't post much and you don't talk about him or try to convince people he's mafia. Why is that?


IC is inactive?

Thomas, you didn't do anything at all to get the suspicion off of yourself. Plus, you just named 3 possible mafia. I do agree jell might be suspicious, and I haven't remembered much from Harumbai, but Isa is being very active. And, unlike you, he gives reason for being town. Note the sudden change in subject. (Plus, do you always talk in simple sentences?)

And with that,

Vote: Thomas    

Yeah I am pretty inactive . I have just been camping with no reception for cellphones let alone internet...

I don't know that you can make an argument out of thinking I'm mafia because most people don't think I'm mafia Thomas, it seems a little far fetched...

Today not much has happened other than the FoSing of Thomas. The only thing that strikes me as odd is that 4 people suddenly agreed with Isa about this. It could mean that the mafia are backing each other up eg. Yaya is mafia and so DBX and Silver jump in to try and quickly lynch a townie.

I shant be swayed by Isa's post, I don't think there is enough evidence... yet.

The thing is when will there ever be enough evidence?

Plus that'd be a rather large mafia. Shall I unleash the numbers  again?

Lots of people were already suspicious of Thomas from the last day. I think Isa just reminded them.

With Jorster and Woodstock gone, I had a feeling Thomas would end up being the main suspect this time around, since he has definitely behaved the shadiest. Thomas, if you're Town, then the best way to save yourself would be to write a big post defending yourself and explaining your thoughts. The reason everybody is suspicious of you is because you aren't sharing much, and what you do share is pretty flimsy. It's hard to tell if you're Mafia or if you're just having a hard time grasping the idea of the game, but as it stands it looks like you're the person I'll end up voting for, too.


How is that?

The rules state that there is to be no outside communication. If you have evidence that anybody is receiving help from anyone, let me know about it.

Vote Count

Vote:
1 - Thomas (DeathBunni X)

FoS:
5 - Thomas (Isa, Thomas, Soccerboy13542, DeathBunni X, Silver)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
Deadline for the day phase: Jan 8th, 2010, 11:59PM Interguild Time

Just because Isa is active here does not mean he can't be mafia. Mafia try's to blend in here and convince town people to vote other town people out of the game. I will make another post later because I want to see what Isa has to say and it's late at night.