This is why I am actually pretty angry with CSD.

So I kinda semi-read the final post, and then I quickly looked at the lynches and stuff, and I'm a little confused without having looked too far into the mafia game.

Day 1, no lynch happens
Day 2, lynch a townie
Day 3, lynch an indie
Day 4, lynch a mafia, game over?

What? I don't get how that happened since I didn't see any mafia deaths at the start of any days. Can someone explain to me why the mafia had basically already lost by day 4, when it looks like no mafia had died up to that point?

Or just a summary of what happened, or a link to a post explaining what happened, cuz I don't really have that much time right now to look at all of this and figure out what happened.

day kills. i didn't understand much either. too fast D:

And a suicide...

Typho day killed Silver on Day 3 and Nebnebben suicided on Night 4.

And CSD kinda suicided himself, too. Well, he voted for himself, not suicided. Basically he got lynched.

Silver, are you always evil...

We pretty much lost on Day 3 when everybody was confirmed except for the mafia and Jell (and this happened even though both cops died on the first night -- yeah, both cops). I would still like to know whether or not Typho blocked me on N3 or whether the kill just 50% failed. If I wasn't blocked, then we had a 25% chance to win on N3 (but I'm thinking I was probably blocked). The only other thing Neb and I could have done was to have both been less suspicious than Jell all game, so that he would be the one blocked on N3 or lynched on D4. I couldn't get that guy lynched when he WAS mafia.

Apparently the night actions are top secret.

I didn't think that was careful play though... So what I one of the more suspicious people and if so, how?

It sounds more like you want to stall time and not give reads and you know that didn't work very well for Silver... I don't see it that way. The way I see it is that you find scum, lynch them, look back at what they said/did in the past and find their partners based on that stuff and voting patterns and stuff. Scum already know how they can be caught too though so you aren't telling them how not to play.

Self-hammering as scum is actually okay to do because (1) There was pretty much no way people would go in another direction (plus CSD pretty much claimed scum before that) (2) It can help protect the identity of your partners because they won't have to state their thoughts on the wagon. Don't self-hammer as town though!

Then NK those who you can't mislynch. It will only leave those alive who you CAN mislynch.

Kooler was mislynched. Yuggy was attempted but he could prove his role. Shavey might have been attempted if Yuggy hadn't confirmed him. I wonder what would have happened if we'd left you alive, though. Would shos have counter-claimed you? If he had, you'd flip insane and Silver would be "confirmed". But it doesn't really matter since it was a pretty unanimous decision to kill you on the first night, lol.

Lol, Shos would've definitely won in an argument of who was actually a cop. It'd be based off unfair-bias of outside game behavior, but he'd win it.

If shos did counter claim then I'd look bad but he may have not done that because he was new and would think 2 cops in a 12 player game was normal. I still think NKing me was bad for you guys. You could have killed some obvtown player or jellsprout because he was suspicious of you and Jazz.

Damn, I need more respect.

"I still think NKing me was bad for you guys."
Maybe you should be thinking more about your own play more so than ours, eh?

My play wasn't bad. YOU were the lurker. If I'm not mafia in the next game then I'll be even more aggressive... but I'm never mafia. So what's so bad about my play?

In what kind of crazy universe is not killing a cop on the first night the right move. Seriously.

Anyway, your constant barrage of posts chokes out the activity of the other players, and your tunneling on just a few players (while your reads appear to be about as reliable as random.org's) combines to allow the mafia players to skate by unnoticed. And through all this you still managed to get yourself NK'd, which, since you were a cop (or at least thought you were), should have been a bad thing to have occur.

I was scum. Of course my behaviour was despicable, lol.

Lol, just playing one day this game, and you got half of your own side to hate you. You'll definitely get lynched by the town next game if you are one and you decide to be even crazier.

I'm still good at finding mafia but Yuggy looked so scummy. Not my fault. It was NOT unnoticed that you, Silver and Jazz were lurking. I asked Silver for reads and she says she doesn't know anything, everyone noticed you had no contribution and that Jazz was gone.  I was not tunneling on just a few players, I was tunneling on ALL players.

OK, if you're so good, then let's play a mini mafia game. 2 mafia, 6 town.

/in

Who's hosting?

If Silver joins, then make sure she's Mafia.

But I need to see if a mod's in with this first. I guess it would be game 3.5

Is this 2 mafia goons (no other power roles except kill) vs 6 VT's? The town should probably have at least a sane cop or a doctor.

Just butting in here, but part of the reason why you got lynched in the second mafia game was because you were too aggressive without having enough logical support to your claims. You may have figured it out definitively, but we hadn't eliminated you from our suspect list, and you never provided us with good reasons for why we shouldn't lynch you. If anything, you should be more passive and think things fully through before making accusations, both in terms of your suspicions, and how you can explain your suspicions to everyone without seeming to everyone like you're talking out of your rear end.

Aggressive =/= Anti-town
I have never seen an aggressive player flip mafia actually. I know that I am really good at finding mafia but I'm really bad at making cases. To add on to that, you were afraid to attack a staff member because that person was a staff member and that staff member's partner made a lot of scum slips and you ignored those. We were in mylo and you probably have not heard about this thing called WIFOM. If you had known what WIFOM was, you may have realized no mafia had been lynched yet because they (apparently) looked pro-town so you should start attacking those pro-town players more and there's a high chance they will be scum. Don't always go after the scummy players in mylo/lylo because there's a good chance the pro-town player(s) is/are scum. It looks like the lynch on me was a policy lynch.. in mylo. ??? You should probably read the last mafia game if you haven't (all 18 pages of D1) because I played differently.

You should play in the next game because I have a feeling your scum play won't be that good.