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Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:10 pm EST
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He's putting jellsprout in the area where he says he's a suspect, but he won't attack him. It's like you distancing yourself from FlashMarsh.
Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:14 pm EST
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How am I distancing myself from Flash?


Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:15 pm EST
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http://www.interguild.org/members/forums/jump.php?to=1346961368

You completely ignored that post by jellsprout. Stop ignoring the thread.
Harumbai
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:17 pm EST
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Is the only argument against Jazz inactivity?

I know I haven't posted recently, but there hasn't really been anything to comment on. You could consider me lurking too, I haven't logged in, but I've spent quite a bit of time looking at what has been posted and deciding whether there was any point in adding anything.

'Isa' said:
I believe him, yes. Lying about receiving a PM like that is a very, very ballsy move that I really doubt he'd make as scum.

I believe that he was so sure about the Mafia being Dittos because his own idea for a game revolved around that. Seems soccer-y.
I think I remember thinking that maybe Soccer was mafia and thought that everyone would already know that mafia were dittos so he had to make up the PM thing to cover the fact that he was mafia. I don't know whether that is likely or not given it could be a fairly stupid thing to be sure about.

'Darvince' said:
You want to gore? What is gore?
'Darvince' said:
'shos' said:
Ahoy, I'm sorry for not quite being here lol, I'll p[ost a VC later today or tomorrow morning.

nooooo
'Darvince' said:
'jorster' said:
If you only lurk. I lurk, and post. I post more than other people (Darvince, Yuggy, Jazz, etc.)

Wait so do I need to post 20+ posts a day now?

I would like to hear some more from Darvince as these posts have no content. I don't whether that was accidental, but in my eyes it doesn't look good.

'Jorster' said:
'Thomas' said:
Mod: Prod Jorster, Yuggy, Silver and jazz please.
...

Jorster is now ignoring the thread apparently after people began attacking him. Scum points for that.


And, you know that I'm ignoring the thread, how? Oh, that's right, you assumed that I'm ignoring everything. This seems to be you "Pulling BS out of your Rear end".
You hadn't posted for 2 days even though you were voted so if you had had something you wanted to explain in your reasoning it might have been good to do that rather than just pretend it didn't happen. I don't think flaming valid points is going to get you very far...

I don't like it but I guess a lynch of an inactive is better than no-lynch.

Town players IMO;
Snipereborn, Isa

Although having said that, I thought Isa was town the time when he wasn't so I'm still not taking my eyes off him...


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Harumbai
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:17 pm EST
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Btw I was ninja'd so that post of Thomas makes part of mine obsolete.


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Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:24 pm EST
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Yeah I screwed up there. But you kept your vote in FlashMarsh for so long (distancing) and then the buddying which was what jellsprout was talking about. Now what do you have to say about jellsprout's post?
Isa
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:29 pm EST
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I have this really strong urge to vote Jorster right now.

OK, everyone! Since "everyone I vote for gets lynched" (source: FlashMarsh and someone from the last game I played), here's a list of people you should NOT vote for today:

Yuggy
Shavey Dave
Soccerboy13542

These three are decently solid town reads of mine.

The ??? category:

Jellsprout
Harumbai
Silver
Snipereborn (I do not think this guy is as town as everyone else seems to think)
FlashMarsh

The "fine votes" category:

Jorster
Jazz
Darvince
Thomas

Vote for any of the latter four and life is good.
I'll probably make a case tomorrow on why Snipereborn isn't as townie as it seems, but right now it would only distract, since I'll freely admit my case wouldn't be strong enough to merit a lynch, and spread-out votes at this point in time is useless.

I honestly don't know who I am voting for right now, but I think it is Jorster, but just in case;

Unvote: Whoever
Vote: Jorster
Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:32 pm EST
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I honestly Don't know why People think we are buddies. I unvoted Flash because It was a vote I put when he Self-Voted, which was a stupid thing to do. I also don't know why Flash says he thinks I'm scum but never tries to lynch me. I suspect it's because he would rather a Thomas Lynch through.

Ninja'd:
You were already voting for me -_-
Why are you voting me? No reasoning....



FlashMarsh
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:34 pm EST

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Thomas is just groupibg us and attacking us together to try and get me lynched from your bad play.
Isa
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:35 pm EST
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'Isa' said:
'snipereborn' said:
So, wait, Thomas, Isa, and Jell are voting jorster? This feels odd considering how at least thomas and isa behaved towards shavey at the beginning of the day. Sure, jorster's play is terrible, but it doesn't look any different from before. What gives, guys? I'ver reread the past few pages several times now, and I'm just not seeing this super scumslip that keeps being referred to.
'Jorster' said:
I agree with Thomas being scummy, and my vote I forgot to change from flash is doing nothing, so
Unvote: Flash
Vote: Thomas
This was awful, but I didn't see anyone ramming a wagon on rocketguy for this:
'rocket guy2' said:
Unvote
Vote: Shavey Dave

Definitley acting suspicious
And only isa did anything about this:
'Conzy' said:
vote shavey dave
he has been acting suspicus latley

So, once again, what gives? More over, Jazz has been questioned by lots of people and is still crazy inactive and even less informative than jorster. Jorster's play seems consistent, but I don't know anything about jazz's play, and that makes me cranky. What I'm getting at is that we should get something from all the players before we push a lynch on jorster. In any case, unless there's a better reason that I'm not seeing, I don't think I'll be participating in a jorster lynch because he's probably just a VI.
Now, since all these heavy weight names seem to be in agreement on jorster, it makes my confidence in my reads wavier. So, seriously, am I missing something?


The main problem is how easily set up his vote was. He comes out with a bandwagon vote that states Thomas is being scummy. Alright...so we expect him to have a decent case if nothing else. Thomas comes out and says "Hey man, why did you vote me?", Jorster says "well you're aggressive, you search for scum and you're inactive despite being one of the players with the most posts in the game (to be fair, there's not too much content in there compared to...say my posts, but it's pretty standard Thomas)", which is pretty much the weakest accusation of being scum I've seen. It sounds like he joined a bandwagon, and when pressured, had to make something up and instead of doing research on what's ACTUALLY scummy in his behavior, he just pulled something out of his rear.
Immediately unvoting doesn't really help as the explanation provided by Thomas, while sufficient, should have been obvious to anyone thinking more than three seconds. In order to not look like a complete fool, Jorster could have stepped up his attacks by countering Thomas with some kind of argument why he's wrong when answering that, but nope.


Yes, I have reasoning.

You're also extremely low on analysis - even Shavey Dave has surpassed you. You're strictly reacting, AT BEST. Usually, you don't even do that.

Let any possible vigilante kill Jazz during the night, should he survive the day.
Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:38 pm EST
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I still feel that imediately unvoting isn't scummy. I go to my previous argument:

"If you're in a  fight against someone with a gun, and you have a Graham Cracker, Do you back off?"


Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:38 pm EST
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Actually I'm trying to get jazz lynched.

About snipereborn, he's really inactive this game so that's the case on him.
FlashMarsh
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:39 pm EST

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Isa, I think your vote would be better used on Thomas since he is by far the strongest player of the four (and the most likely to get town lynched).
Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:39 pm EST
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Is there anything else you did that you consider scummy then?
FlashMarsh
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:40 pm EST

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What. Who are you even talking to.  
Isa
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:43 pm EST
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'Jorster' said:
I still feel that imediately unvoting isn't scummy. I go to my previous argument:

"If you're in a  fight against someone with a gun, and you have a Graham Cracker, Do you back off?"

My argument against that is that you didn't think through your attack at all, and just went with the overall flow but tried to be original in order to avoid copying someone else. Do you disagree?
Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:46 pm EST
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'Isa' said:
'Jorster' said:
I still feel that imediately unvoting isn't scummy. I go to my previous argument:

"If you're in a  fight against someone with a gun, and you have a Graham Cracker, Do you back off?"

My argument against that is that you didn't think through your attack at all, and just went with the overall flow but tried to be original in order to avoid copying someone else. Do you disagree?


I did try to be original, but If I wasn't, and said stuff other people had said, then People would have voted me for not bein Original. IMO it's a Lose/Lose situation.


Isa
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:54 pm EST
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So, Jorster - why did you vote for Thomas in the first place?
Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:55 pm EST
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I still think jazz should be lynched. If there is no vig or the vig does not kill jazz then we'll be on D2 with jazz and Darvince not helping us. Lynching Darvince is also an option but jazz is worse than Darvince and, thus far, jazz has been lynched in every game he's joined.
Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:57 pm EST
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I voted for Thomas, because He is being Incredibly Aggressive, mostly. During the begining, he was also fairly inactive.


Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:58 pm EST
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Thomas
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 6:59 pm EST
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Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 7:06 pm EST
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EBWOP?


Isa
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 7:07 pm EST
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Edit By Way Of Post.
Jorster
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Saturday, September 8 2012, 7:09 pm EST
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Ah. I said those reasons because I wanted to have some original ideas, Albeit, they were not very good reasons, but still original reasons.



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