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'canadianstickdeath' said: This is something I do in a lot of games. I call out somebody for doing legitimately scummy things, and go from there. Bmwsu was mislynched, but it lead me to you and nebneb. The mafia will have to take sides, and from there you can judge who you think is the scum. Did I think Yuggy was scum... maybe? He was my best guess after the first couple of pages. I wouldn't call somebody out who I didn't have reason to suspect, but it's the discussion that follows that I'm most interested in. A lynch on Bmwsu gave you information? I knew Bmwsu would flip town before I even voted. A Yuggy lynch would give a lot of information in this game because if Yuggy flips mafia then we can see jell and shos defending Yuggy and if Yuggy flips town then you can see jell and shos defending Yuggy. Yuggy has 2 people defending him and nobody is defending me... those guys are obvscum. Lynching an inactive gives no information because I can just see the green text the says "town-aligned" in my head before the flip. | | shos |
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'Thomas' said: 'canadianstickdeath' said: Yuggy has 2 people defending him and nobody is defending me... those guys are obvscum.
dude, this is because you are he obvious one -_-;
also, you seriously need to learn the meaning of 'back this up'. | | shos |
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uh yes, I meant thta post o look like this 'shos' said: 'Thomas' said: Yuggy has 2 people defending him and nobody is defending me... those guys are obvscum.
dude, this is because you are he obvious one -_-;
also, you seriously need to learn the meaning of 'back this up'.
| | shos |
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so uh, what's with everybody's inactivity? the fact that jell and thomas are sort of arguing doesn't mean we can't post lol.
unless you're *still* reading, lol
| | Shavey Dave |
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Nah I'm not still reading justa doing other things.
| | jellsprout |
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'canadianstickdeath' said: Actually, I have a question for Jell. Jell, you claimed, after the end of last game, that you believe you would have acted much the same way as town as you did as scum (or at least that's what you said about the Bmwsu vote, but I got the feeling you felt it applied to more aspects of your game). Do you now believe that to be the case? Are you noticing any differences in your play style, thus far, between this and the previous games?
Yes, I am playing very differently. I learned a lot during and after last game and I am trying to use this.
And I am definitely a lot more relaxed now that I am Town. Last game I was basically the leader of the Mafia. I felt I needed to come up with strategies and protect my fellow Mafia members. Trying to pick out scum when you already know who all the Mafia members are doesn't help either. I like playing as Town far better than playing as scum.
'Thomas' said: A lynch on Bmwsu gave you information? I knew Bmwsu would flip town before I even voted. A Yuggy lynch would give a lot of information in this game because if Yuggy flips mafia then we can see jell and shos defending Yuggy and if Yuggy flips town then you can see jell and shos defending Yuggy. Yuggy has 2 people defending him and nobody is defending me... those guys are obvscum. Lynching an inactive gives no information because I can just see the green text the says "town-aligned" in my head before the flip.
It wasn't the Bmwsu lynch itself, but more how Nebnebben, Silver and I were the 3rd, 4th and 5th voters for Bmwsu. Being 3rd or 4th is a scumtell (20% i believe), voting 2nd or 5th is a lighter scumtell (I think 10%). But what probably condemned me was my second final post for the day, where I've shown that I thought Bmwsu wasn't actually scum, but still went through with my vote when I potentially could have saved him.
Guyguy, this reminds me, I have a question. What if a person gets the majority of the votes, but some people unvote him again to bring his total votes to under the threshold again before you can tally the votes and end the day. Does he still get lynched or will the day continue?
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Kooler and Silver haven't said anything in a while despite being on last night. For now, Kooler is in the clear with me cuz he's been pretty obv. town/ a dumb mafia member since the start (but still come on and post). But Silver, right now, you're the most semi-inactive, suspicious player I can think of (besides Jazz, but he/she's/his replacement/her replacement isn't coming on anytime soon, lol). Post! I will not hesitate to vote for you before the deadline if you continue to not comment like this.
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I have prodded Kooler and DBX.
Jell, in regards to that question, most likely they will still be lynched because the day should have already technically ended. | | jellsprout |
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All right, good to know. Last time I didn't know if that was the case and it almost cost me the game.
| | shos |
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prodded? does that mean they're not playing anymore?
does that mean that we need 1 less vote to lynch? does that mean thomas will be lynched if we have 1 extra vote?
can we have a recount? just update?
| | Yaya |
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By briefly reading the mafiascumwiki entry, I think it's when a mod PMs a player, telling them to be more active or they'll be replaced.
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Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | jellsprout |
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Generally the day ends directly after a modkill.
| | shos |
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modkill? what's that? ><
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i'm still trying to catch up in my reading :/
'Livio' said: You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me. | | Thomas |
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Is the deadline tonight...? I can role claim if it is. | | Thomas |
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I'm just gonna request a 2-3 day deadline extension because if/when I claim, scum hunting will start all over again. | | Thomas |
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'jellsprout' said: 'Thomas' said: 'Yaya' said: Shos, you seem to be trying to defend Yuggy a bit too crazily. For me, this makes you look like you're a scum trying to save a scum. If you are town, I understand you don't want to lose a townie in Day 1 like we have in the past, but there's only so much you can do once momentum gains for a lynching. Your defense for Yuggy was basically reinterpreting one of his posts and his overall behavior, along with making a case against Thomas. Yuggy isn't getting accused just because of 1 post, he's also getting accused for trying to make Kooler the scapegoat (sorry, Shos, there's a new goat in town, lol) of all this, similar to what you're doing to Thomas. I agree with this. If you are town then you would know that you aren't always right so then you would know that you could be wrong but you are acting like you think Yuggy is 100% town and you have not provided anything to back this up. This sounds like you are trying to save a scum partner. So because you are acting like you have more information than a pro-town player does, this suggests you are scum. Shos is to die after Yuggy.
It is not certain that Yuggy is scum. In fact, based on the evidence you have provided these chances are actually very slim. I don't want to waste the entire first day putting a witch hunt on a Townie and ignore everybody else in the game. You should realize that the chances of guessing the entire Mafia team this early in the game are very slim. Yet you are so bat crazy convinced in your accusations that you absolutely refuse to look at anybody else. You even prevent the rest of the Town to look at anybody else. What if Yuggy isn't scum? What then? We have almost no other leads because you have forced us to waste this entire day on Yuggy. We start the game over again, except now at least two Townies are dead. Shos probably feels the same way.I did not say I am CERTAIN Yuggy is scum. No, with the evidence on the Yuggy case, I am 80 - 85% sure that Yuggy is scum. In the last game on day four, I was 99.9% sure you were scum and 90% sure Yuggy was so it's not quite like the last game. Stop calling Yuggy a townie because it makes YOU look like you have more information than you should have. In other words, it means you're scum. But no, Yuggy isn't a townie, you are attempting to protect a scum partner. Maybe for you the chances of predicting the whole mafia team are bad (you have done horrible thus far), but I am professional at this stuff so I take on the impossible. I don't refuse to look at anyone else unless I'm 95% or higher sure that someone is scum like demonstrated in the last game, so no, you are putting words in my mouth. I don't prevent anyone from looking at anyone else. If Yuggy isn't scum (unlikely) then that gives some huge leads for day 2 and I would begin accusing Silver. There are PLENTY of leads, look at the Yuggy case FOR ONCE. YOU ARE IGNORING IT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR SCUM PARTNER. Also, a lot of leads come FROM a lynch so by lynching Yuggy, THAT'S where LOTS of leads come from.
'jellsprout' said: 'Thomas' said: 'Silver' said: Seriously, if you think you can do that, then why don't you sprout wings and fly? I don't think I can do that, I know I can do that. It can't be very hard to vote you. And because the votes are based mainly for pressure, anybody who does lynch you is scum unless YOU are scum...
'Shavey Dave' said: I'm holding off my suspicions about Thomas. I think everyones eyes are pointing straight at Yuggy. I said I'd wait, and Yuggy does seem odd. For that reason...
FoS Yuggy FoSing is sssoooooooooooooooo 3 real life days ago. Vote him. Yuggy is to die.
So these votes on Yuggy aren't to lynch him, but to put pressure on him, yet you don't want to put pressure on him, but lynch him?
Yuggy changes his mind after being pressured for several posts. You change your mind for absolutely no reason at all in one single post.No, my vote on Yuggy was ORIGINALLY placed for pressure but by that point I wanted him dead.
'jellsprout' said: 'Thomas' said: 'Yuggy' said: All I can say is that a made a mistake, and a poor defence. I admit it, I am not good at defending myself, especially to Thomas, who is, I must admit, a very good mafia game player. I really think that if you can look through the mistakes, and bad playing, you can see a townie, not a very bad mafia, and do what's best for the town, if it's lynching me, so be it, but especially later in the game my role could come useful to the rest of the town. You have every reason to lynch me, but just be sure about it. I don't care if you admit your actions. IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU ANY LESS SCUMMY. If I look at your posts I see scum who make a small mistake and once accused make many more. I may ask for a role claim soon if your role is apparently going to be useful...
Early role-claims are anti-Town. It helps the Mafia to figure out who is a threat and who isn't, while the Town still can't know what is true and what isn't.Role claims are fine when someone is close to a lynch because then if people believe the claim then they can unvote and have another shot at lynching mafia. I never wanted a mass-claim, I only wanted Yuggy to claim but then some other people did. After Yuggy's claim though, I am still up for lynching him.
'jellsprout' said: 'Thomas' said: 'Shavey Dave' said: Thomas, what do you have against Yuggy? You should've posted a defence. The more you post the more suspicious I get.
Vote: Thomas
if, IF your NOT mafia defend this. Shavey Dave, explain your vote. I don't understand why you would vote for someone for attacking someone else.
So when Dave votes for Yuggy without explanation, it is fine, but when he votes for you he suddenly needs to explain himself? Double standards, much.No, I asked Dave if he was voting Yuggy because other people did or because of the case. Because he said he found him suspicious (from the case), I knew he was talking about the case. I do not understand why he withdrew his 'suspicions' for little reasoning and believed Yuggy defended himself. Shavey Dave voted for me for only one's opinion which is unreliable. Those are 2 different things. | | Thomas |
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Jell, I will probably finish responding to your accusations and stuff later.
I have requested a 2-3 day deadline extension as well. | | shos |
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Vote/FoS Count
DBX (3 FoS, Soccerboy, Shos, ShaveyDave)
CSD (2 FoS, Jellsprout, Shos)
Thomas (1 FoS, Jellsprout, 4 Votes, Soccerboy, Shos, Silver, ShaveyDave)
Silver (1 FoS, Yuggy)
Yuggy (6 FoS, Thomas, Silver, Yaya, Shos, Silver, ShaveyDave, 2 Votes, Thomas, CSD)
Jazz (3 FoS, Shos, Yuggy, Jellsprout)
Shos (1 FoS, Thomas)
Kooler (2 FoS, Yuggy, ShaveyDave)
ShaveyDave (2 FoS, Yuggy, Yaya, 1 Vote, Jellsprout)
Jellsprout (2 FoS, Shos, Thomas)
| | shos |
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so once again, what happens if we don't get to 7 votes on anyone? this starts to seem likely. from my understanding, a no-lynch is good for mafia. so what do you think about, if we don't reach a decision, we take the 2 closest candidates and decide between them?..
| | Thomas |
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Guyguy said that the person with the most votes at the deadline is lynched. I requested an extension though... if an extension is not granted then I'm gonna role claim tomorrow after school. | | shos |
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jell asked about the 'majority' of the votes. does that mean that it's the most voted, or that it's mroe than a half? that's my question.. anyways, gnight.
| | Silver |
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Oh, sorry for not commenting much! Homestuck is so goddamn addicting, you have no idea.
Anyways, a quick suspicious person's list...
Thomas
Yuggy
Kooler
CSD
I will make a better one later. | | Thomas |
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'shos' said: jell asked about the 'majority' of the votes. does that mean that it's the most voted, or that it's mroe than a half? that's my question.. anyways, gnight. Person with the most votes. | | |
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