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Sorry
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'Quirvy' said: Okay, here are my thoughts on everyone still alive
Jellsprout - Thomas pointed out that he forgot to put Jazz in his list when he went through everyone; I don't think that he would have made that oversight if he was partners in crime with Jazz. Town
Shos - As stated in previous post, town
Thomas - As someone said a while ago, he was one of the first people to push for Jazz' lynch, while everyone else was ready to put the 7th vote on jorster. Town.
Jorster - It's possible that we could have had 2 mafia simultaneously on the brink of being lynched, but jorster to me just seems like genuine town guy.
Soccerboy13542 - He's acted pretty strange and hasn't contributed much. I put him in yesterday as one of the people I most genuinely believed was town. I'm not as confident in that currently, but for now I still have him as leaning town/independent
Shavey Dave - Before today he'd be further down on the list; it seems like he's been mostly talking without saying much, as if he was just posting so that he wouldn't be yelled at for being inactive and lurking and such. But he basically roleclaimed without being asked. So to me he's leaning town
Yaya - the thing with him and shavey definitely seemed suspicious, but I still feel like it was a misunderstanding, and if he was scum, I think he might have backed off sooner than he did. He's leaning town, but not by much.
And then there are suddenly only 2 people left on my list: Yuggy and Harumbai
Neither of which I feel much of anything about. Harumbai's posts have been pretty much flawless. Perhaps even too flawless. Yuggy on the other hand, I just don't have a feel for. He's posted here and there. I remember that he voted for me because he thought I was acting "uber-defensive", but apart from that, not much else comes to mind. He had an active role in the momentum shift from the jorster bandwagon to the Jazz bandwagon, changing the vote counts from 5-3 to a 4-4 tie. Harumbai on the other hand abstained from being part of the Jazz bandwagon until it was pretty much inevitable that he was going to be lynched. But Jazz was playing pretty horrifically in this game, so it wouldn't surprise me if his teammate decided that Jazz probably wasn't going to make it to sunset, and wanted to get in ahead of the curve to make himself look better. So Yuggy doesn't gain too much of an edge from that.
My view on Harumbai is a bit hypocritical; if I had to choose one person to lynch right now, no questions asked, it would be a tough decision, but I'd probably choose Harumbai. Yet at the same time, I don't feel that I could ever win an argument against him where I accused him of being scum. There's just no solid evidence pointing to it. But then again, there's not really any solid evidence pointing to anyone right now and I don't think I could win that argument against anyone. And I had the same feeling (albeit stronger) about jellsprout on the final day in the last game I played, and he was indeed scum.
Harumbai is my lead suspect, Yuggy runner up. Anyone below jorster I wouldn't be shocked if they turned out to be scum. Anyone Jorster and above would be a surprise to me, though.
Just my .
Ok, my role claim was kind of pointless but I'm glad that I'm 'leaning towards town'. I think Quirvy summed me up perfectly. I'm still unsure on who to vote as IMO no one ATM stands out as scum.
'jellsprout' said: Quirvy, I agree with you about Yuggy and Harumbai. There isn't anything particularly scummy about them, but something just irks me.
I'd also like to know a little more. Is there anything in particular that gives you this feeling? I can understand what you mean though...
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Both of them are very bland, which makes them stand out. They aren't doing anything overly scummy, but they aren't as actively participating in the discussions as the rest of us either.
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But should we build a case on them because of this, or encourage them to actively discuss more? And if it comes down to it, which one is the bigger offender of this blandness?
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Vote Count 2.8
Yuggy (1) - Thomas
Harumbai (1) - Yaya
Quirvy (1) - Jellsprout
Soccerboy13542 (1) - Shos
Not voting (5) - Harumbai, Quirvy, Shavey Dave, Yuggy, Jorster, Soccerboy13542
With 10 alive, it's 6 to achieve a lynch.
Deadline is at June 30, 06:00 AM Interguild Standard Time. | | Quirvy |
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I don't think that there's much of a case to be built solely on "they don't stand out one way or the other"
Harumbai seems to me to be acting very neutrally in general; As in I don't feel like he's really gone after anyone very hard, and that he seems to have been lurking in the shadows, staying out of view, up until he rightfully called out shos for his behavior, which got my attention. I don't have much to comment on Yuggy. I guess I should read up on all of his posts, as well as Harumbai's, if I want to get a solid opinion on them, but I'll leave that for later.
I don't particularly like shos' play in general. I think that voting for people without giving any explanations just so that he can see how they react is scummy, not in the sense that it makes him look like he's mafia, but that's it's just a scummy thing to do in general. It's like he's Troll Detective Shoval or something. It irks me, but that's just about it.
I don't think that you can really analyze soccerboy's few posts because they're clearly rushed and he hasn't had enough time to thoroughly read any of these posts and make a big post about his thoughts. Perhaps he wanted to contribute, but because of his time constraints, the best he thought he could do was help move the vote count up on someone who appears to be suspicious.
It's not that I'm not suspicious of him, it's just that I think you can't really make a judgement like shos' based on his rushed posts.
spooky secret | | Thomas |
the clique shall prevail
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Okay so I know I was going to make that post tonight but then I got called to mow a lawn but I got extra cash for doing it without 24 hour's notice anyway. I just finished writing the analysis of two players (in the mod's roster order) and then somebody from IC.net wanted to talk to me about the Interguild and my history here. So that took a while. So I apologize for screwing around just like Yuggy, Shavey Dave and soccerboy13542. Analysis coming later today I guess. | | shos |
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'Quirvy' said: I don't particularly like shos' play in general. I think that voting for people without giving any explanations just so that he can see how they react is scummy, not in the sense that it makes him look like he's mafia, but that's it's just a scummy thing to do in general. It's like he's Troll Detective Shoval or something. It irks me, but that's just about it.
How is that scummy? gathering information helps scum..?
| | shos |
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Also, I thought about it, and I find it quite wierd that nobody has anything to say(DO NOT CLAIM DAMMIT) from their roles. I mean,there's 10 of us, all of which have *some* powers..
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'Shavey Dave' said: Ok, my role claim was kind of pointless but I'm glad that I'm 'leaning towards town'. I think Quirvy summed me up perfectly. I'm still unsure on who to vote as IMO no one ATM stands out as scum. Firstly, Rather than posting the whole quote and highlighting, why not only post the relevant part of the quote?
Secondly, this post seems pretty scummy to me. As in "look at how Quirvy thinks I'm town, you should listen to him and take it for granted that I'm town while I do nothing to search for the scum". Maybe the reason no one else seems scummy is that you are the last one... I don't know, but that one post to me seemed pretty bad.
The only reason you could be pleased for being thought to be town and have no motivation to scum hunt is that you are scum. A town should continue helping because otherwise the town is lacking valuable discussion of what people know.
'shos' said: Also, I thought about it, and I find it quite wierd that nobody has anything to say(DO NOT CLAIM DAMMIT) from their roles. I mean,there's 10 of us, all of which have *some* powers.. I don't get what you want us to say? Info from our roles without claiming? Is there any way to do that?
Also if someone can tell me what we're 'actively' discussing then I can post about it, but I don't have much of a response to me being bland. I guess I try not to be too opinionated and to look at facts and suspicions that I think are kind of clear one way or the other rather than those which could prove someone either way.
I kind of typed the first bit of this a few hours ago, but must have forgotten to click post so this may not be as well phrased as the first time. I hope I don't open up the wrath of Shos the grammar god .
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We aren't really actively discussing anything. Feel free to find something for us to talk about.
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Suppose that the deadline were tomorrow. Who would you be willing to lynch?
I would be willing to support a Soccerboy and Yuggy wagon. I don't trust Shavey Dave, Harumbai, Quirvy and Shos very much either, but I don't think I will lynch them without any solid arguments.
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'shos' said: 'Quirvy' said: I don't particularly like shos' play in general. I think that voting for people without giving any explanations just so that he can see how they react is scummy, not in the sense that it makes him look like he's mafia, but that's it's just a scummy thing to do in general. It's like he's Troll Detective Shoval or something. It irks me, but that's just about it.
How is that scummy? gathering information helps scum..? I specifically said that I wasn't referring to scummy to mean that you're associated with the mafia. I'm saying that it's kind of douche baggery.
'shos' said: Also, I thought about it, and I find it quite wierd that nobody has anything to say(DO NOT CLAIM DAMMIT) from their roles. I mean,there's 10 of us, all of which have *some* powers.. Why would we say something that our roles have taught us? That would sort of be risking the security of our roles. If you're a detective, and you investigate someone, you're not going to flat out say "My role has informed me that _____ is town/mafia" for obvious reasons.
I'd be willing to lynch anyone below soccerboy in my analysis post.
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'jellsprout' said: Both of them are very bland, which makes them stand out. They aren't doing anything overly scummy, but they aren't as actively participating in the discussions as the rest of us either.
To be honest I have not been 'actively participating' in discussions either.
| | jellsprout |
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But unlike Harumbai and Yuggy, you have some scummy actions. Such as hopping on certain bandwagons without giving it a second thought, but completely ignoring others. You don't fall in the "so neutral, it's scummy" category.
| | Yaya |
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Out of the two people you're willing to lynch, Jell. I was going to say Yuggy, because I thought Soccerboy had been on even less, but it appears Yuggy has pretty much disappeared also. It doesn't matter; their both ridiculously inactive and one of them is probably scum. I have a feeling it'd be easier to get a Yuggy wagon, though.
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Quarrel Yaya, for I will back thee.
| | Yaya |
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Can you possibly rephrase that in a more understandable way?
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He's saying "Try to lynch Yaya, and I will be supportive"
I'd hope that Jorster would be willing to lynch more than one person...
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I said try to lynch someone Yaya, and ill back you. The way Q said it it kinda sounded like I wanted to lynch Yaya.
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By "Quarrel Yaya" I thought you meant "Go after Yaya"
You might want to avoid making posts like that in the future, Jorster, and instead be a little bit more straightforward.
spooky secret | | Yaya |
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At first I thought of the villain from the first Harry Potter book, then I remembered that quarrel meant to fight, but I wasn't sure if he wanted to fight me or fight with me.
Ninja'd by Jorster: Do not back me for no apparent reason, are you trying to make me look bad, lol? You better at least agree on the person before you vote. Sorry if that came off as harsh, but seriously; each to their own opinions.
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Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | Jorster |
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Actually, I don't really have any opinions on anyone yet, but whatever people start to agree on, I'll go with, unless I get my own opinion.
Ninja'd - Yeah, in hindsight, I think that was a terrible way to say it.
Double Ninja'd - ... Ok
| | shos |
~Jack of all trades~
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'Quirvy' said: 'shos' said: 'Quirvy' said: I don't particularly like shos' play in general. I think that voting for people without giving any explanations just so that he can see how they react is scummy, not in the sense that it makes him look like he's mafia, but that's it's just a scummy thing to do in general. It's like he's Troll Detective Shoval or something. It irks me, but that's just about it.
How is that scummy? gathering information helps scum..? I specifically said that I wasn't referring to scummy to mean that you're associated with the mafia. I'm saying that it's kind of douche baggery. provoking discussion.
'Yaya' said: We aren't really actively discussing anything. Feel free to find something for us to talk about. there.
'jellsprout' said: Suppose that the deadline were tomorrow. Who would you be willing to lynch?
I would be willing to support a Soccerboy and Yuggy wagon. I don't trust Shavey Dave, Harumbai, Quirvy and Shos very much either, but I don't think I will lynch them without any solid arguments. I'd support a Shavey wagon, a Soccerboy wagon, and a Harumbai wagon. 'Quirvy' said: By "Quarrel Yaya" I thought you meant "Go after Yaya"
You might want to avoid making posts like that in the future, Jorster, and instead be a little bit more straightforward. you might want to avoid posts like that, since it looks like you're trying to communicate with a scumbuddy in an agreed way.
You're lucky I believe your claim.
'Jorster' said: Actually, I don't really have any opinions on anyone yet, but whatever people start to agree on, I'll go with, unless I get my own opinion.
Ninja'd - Yeah, in hindsight, I think that was a terrible way to say it.
Double Ninja'd - ... Ok and that was a terrible thing to say.
not sure what to do about this.
I think I'll also support a jorster lynch if such wagon happens. but mostly soccerboy and shavey.
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'shos' said: provoking discussion.
Yaya: [big defensive post]
shos: moar votes on yaya plox
Yaya: Thanks for the rebuttal, Shos.
Great discussion your methods provoked there.
I still firmly believe such tactics to be douche baggery. Stuff like that, and posting only picture of a band wagon and inquiring people hop on, is not going to provoke any discussions apart from the ones about how ineffective your methods are.
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