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Yuggy
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'Shavey Dave' said:
'Thomas' said:
Yuggy make a list with every player in the game and your stance on each player.


He might be able do this at lunch time.
Well it's break now, I'll see how far I can get but I can't promise a full list in this amount of time, if I can't finish I'll post what I've done and finish in lunch or after school.
Yuggy
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Ok here goes:

Shavey: Mistakes have been made here and there but on the whole he is getting better, and I do not get a scum feeling from him. Town

Shos: He is starting to annoy me and has done potentially harmful things. His logic also seems slightly off, and since he was only a one day stump it makes it a role which a scum could more easily have. Slight Scum

Quirvy: His lack of voting is slightly strange, but that's just probably just because his play style is different. I don't really get any feelings that he is scum. Town

Yaya: Not playing as well as he has in any of the other games and is less active than in them too. It might not mean anything and he might be just busy but I'm getting a very slight scum reading on him. Very Slight Scum

Soccer: Not much to say about him, not very active and I can't really get a very good reading from what he has done, but I'd say null leaning towards scum. Null

Break is over so that's it for now, but I'll do the remaining four at lunch (or after school)
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Well it's french in the language lab (computer room) so...

Thomas: Playing like he normally does, one strange incident with the bolded text and stuff, but to be honest I don't think if Thomas was mafia he would do something that obvious. Town

Jellsprout: Playing quite well, nothing very scummy. Town

Jorster: Not playing well at all. Not very active and even when he posts it is just not useful or paraphrasing what's already been said. This said, however, I do not think he is mafia, rather just an inexperienced townie. Null/Town

Harumbi: Not particually active but at least when he does post it has some content and reasoning. Town
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'Yuggy' said:

Thomas: Playing like he normally does, one strange incident with the bolded text and stuff, but to be honest I don't think if Thomas was mafia he would do something that obvious. Town

Jellsprout: Playing quite well, nothing very scummy. Town

Jorster: Not playing well at all. Not very active and even when he posts it is just not useful or paraphrasing what's already been said. This said, however, I do not think he is mafia, rather just an inexperienced townie. Null/Town

Harumbi: Not particually active but at least when he does post it has some content and reasoning. Town
bout thomas - was it obvious? has anyone other than me thought about how this can be a message to buddies BEFORE reading my posts? I know that jell didn't, and it doesn't look like anyone else who participated in the discussion even considered it.

bout jorster: lol @ you saying HE is not very active. oh, the hypocrity...



Yuggy
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'shos' said:
bout jorster: lol @ you saying HE is not very active. oh, the hypocrity...
Yah, but I've been away and he has just been not contributing. -_-
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I got lost on the last page on the whole 1,2,3,4 discussion between Shos and Thomas, but as far as I can see it seems like Shos is coming up with strange theories again. Though I can see where he got the thought it seems very unlikely that Thomas would start the lynch on a fellow mafia, particularly on Day 1. I mean there is bluffing like that, but a fellow mafia lynch that early I find quite unbelievable, I guess it could have gone wrong, but that still has a low chance IMO.

I realise this is meant to pair up with the previous theory of Shos' that Thomas was trying to get his mafia buddy to look at the mafia board, but both of these to me are circumstantial and are not particularly convincing. What I am finding increasingly convincing is the fact that Shos wants a lynch on anyone as soon as they say anything the slightest thing odd, but wont back down even when their defense is clearly stronger than his argument. I am alarmed by how fast his opinion of who is scum changes just in one post and thi suggests to me that he doesn't care who he gets lynched as long as it fits with his thoughts at the time.

I am going to look back on the posts tomorrow, but off the top of my head he has wanted Quirvy, Thomas, Me, dead all of a sudden so maybe there are some other people he wants alive but wants any other lynch.

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Also, I thought that it was obvious that if someone claims he has intention to hammer, he should actually have it.
The first thought that came to mind upon reading this: "Also, I thought that it was obvious that if someone claims he has a special ability that lasts throughout the game, he should actually have it."

I think that jell said that shos has been grasping at straws or something, and I completely agree. As unusual as that post by Thomas may be (he's usually more focused to the task at hand and doesn't like it when people do weird stuff like that), I still think it's a stretch to say that he's trying to communicate with his fellow mafia by ranting about Haily's inactivity on IC.net and the effects that it's going to have if he doesn't come online in time. I mean, where would he even get that idea? "Hmmm... I really need to inform my partner of something, but how? I know! I'll make a post where I'm really mad at Haily for being inactive when he needs to come online to do something for some competition we're holding! It will incorporate my message perfectly!"

Yeah, I'm just not feeling it. And that's without me considering that he was the first one to vote for jazz.



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Vote Count 2.12
Shos (3) - Soccerboy13542, Jellsprout, Harumbai
Harumbai (2) - Yaya, Thomas
Soccerboy13542 (1) - Jorster
Thomas (1) - Shos

Not voting (3) - Quirvy, Shavey Dave, Yuggy

With 10 alive, it's 6 to achieve a lynch.
Deadline is at June 30, 06:00 AM Interguild Standard Time.
shos
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the question is more, 'how can I inform my partner of something without the town members getting it/getting the fact that I am doing that?' and then the answer will be to invent some random story that the town will overlook.

@harumbai:
if the fact that once I think I spot scum I want to lynch them makes you think I'm scum(and btw, when did I *want you dead*? never even voted you) then I really have nothing to say. if you can go and lynch scum at the current state of the game without any of my thoughts, I'll take my hat off to you.

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on another note, just been ninja'd by votecount, and I seem to be the leading wagon. if I'm going to get lynched as a compromise because deadline is coming, I'm totally going to be mad in the dead topic hehe

oh and mod harumbai is no longer voting shavey


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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=21757

This is the last game I finished; we lost there with some nice scum play. it's quite short that game. I was lynched there on day 2 - when a role made me get lynched in only 3 votes, and one guy voted and 2 scum quickhammered. the third scum, did what I think thomas did for Jazz. he actually PROTECTED ME from a kill N1, earned himself a conftown status, and then survived to endgame.


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Mod: Prod Jorster please.
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Forgot about that: Consider it done.
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It must be annoying for Yuggy because everyone is like 'Oh you've been so in - active! Blah blah blah!' He hasn't phyisicaly been able to go on the IG.




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IT DOES NOT MATTER. the facts are that half the people in this game don't talk nearly enough. come on, on MS in a 13-player game we actually burned a thousand posts on day 1 once, lol. a thousand. here, both days together so far are less than 500 =\


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I'm sorry for not posting, I still haven't had access to my laptop. Expect a list later today or early tomorrow.


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I do agree that Shos is grasping straws at this point, but I don't think he's mafia. I'm with Quirvy in thinking that Shos, Thomas and Jell might be all town, explaining why Shos is grasping for straws.



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shos
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thomas, may I ask you how comes every time I come check in on the site you're online, but you never post here anything? you also never post anywhere else, hence the question and not lurk-call.


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Ok, Here goes my list:

Soccerboy: Very inactive, doesn't really participate all that much. Slight Scum

Jellsprout: Seems to actively scumhunt, but his play style seems slight scummy, but I don't know. Null/slight scum

Harumbai: Inactive, but has strong arguments as to why others are scum. Town

Yaya: Null I don't really have any arguments for or against him.

Thomas: playing aggressively, but that is apparently his normal play style. One of the only active members of the game. Town

Shos: Another active member. He is playing pretty badly, making arguments about nothing... Slight scum

Quirvy: Activley scumhunting, the only thing I have to say, is that he hasn't voted at all yet. Null

Shavey Dave: Inactive, not playing very strongly, but I don't have any arguments that prove he is obvscum. Null

Yuggy: Has posted 3 or 4 times the entire day 2. Not entirely his fault, but still, Inactivity is bad. Hasn't really scumhunted, or stated arguments about people. Scum


Shavey Dave
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You do know that soccer is on holiday? Anyways I personally think your list sounds quite reasonable. I think you should of included shos' fake claim though. Also, if I may ask, you said Jell's play style seem slightly scummy. Anything in particular?




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Nothing in particular, but just the way he's been posting, and the way he kinda Rage-voted Shos a bit ago.


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Ok. Seems fair.




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'shos' said:
thomas, may I ask you how comes every time I come check in on the site you're online, but you never post here anything? you also never post anywhere else, hence the question and not lurk-call.
Because I don't sit on a chair refreshing every two seconds waiting for someone to post.

Shos, jellsprout and others who didn't do this yet: make a list with every player and your stance on them.
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'Thomas' said:
'shos' said:
thomas, may I ask you how comes every time I come check in on the site you're online, but you never post here anything? you also never post anywhere else, hence the question and not lurk-call.
Because I don't sit on a chair refreshing every two seconds waiting for someone to post.

Shos, jellsprout and others who didn't do this yet: make a list with every player and your stance on them.

This


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Wednesday, June 27 2012, 5:27 am EST
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'Jorster' said:
Ok, Here goes my list:

Soccerboy: Very inactive, doesn't really participate all that much. Slight Scum

Jellsprout: Seems to actively scumhunt, but his play style seems slight scummy, but I don't know. Null/slight scum

Harumbai: Inactive, but has strong arguments as to why others are scum. Town

Yaya: Null I don't really have any arguments for or against him.

Thomas: playing aggressively, but that is apparently his normal play style. One of the only active members of the game. Town

Shos: Another active member. He is playing pretty badly, making arguments about nothing... Slight scum

Quirvy: Activley scumhunting, the only thing I have to say, is that he hasn't voted at all yet. Null

Shavey Dave: Inactive, not playing very strongly, but I don't have any arguments that prove he is obvscum. Null

Yuggy: Has posted 3 or 4 times the entire day 2. Not entirely his fault, but still, Inactivity is bad. Hasn't really scumhunted, or stated arguments about people. Scum
So I'm obvscum becuase I've had some school trips. Great reasoning Jorster.
And it's not like you've been active or scumhunted yourself, so stop being so hypocritical.
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That's not what I said. In the first day, you didn't really do anything. The second day, you haven't done anything. I've been actively lurking, and adding stuff in when I see fit.



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