I don't think that attempted murder deserves a life sentence. Part of that might be because I can't even fathom the amount of incompetence it takes to fail to murder someone when you premeditate the thing. I can understand not getting away with it, but failing to do the deed? It's one thing if you change your mind and don't want to commit murder anymore, but to actually try and fail?

Ehem. Cough.
Don't get me wrong, I think attempted murder should have a pretty hefty sentence, but life seems a little extreme. After all, if you give him life in prison, you're taking his life from him, mostly. He didn't take anyone's life, even though he tried. It seems like that is an unfair penalty. So even if you follow an eye for an eye, probably the most unforgiving penalty system out there, life seems extreme.

lol sniper, some people are thsi dumb/unlucky. either way - if you attempt murder after planning it ahead - life sentence it should be, since you have thought about it and planned it and decided to murder anyway - even if your gun stopped, or you stabbed the person and they were so lucky that the stab missed practically anything important.

in israel there is a difference between murder and manslaughter. the first is life(25y) and the second is around 10y, that's it.

@Thomas

The reason that man got such a low sentence is because accidental deaths involving a car have extremely low sentences, probably because the people making the laws and handing out the sentences are scared that it could happen to them.

I downrated Shos because I disagree with what he wrote but I didn't/don't have time to post my thoughts.

Check out this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_investigations
Justice can be done without killing people.

Isa, I don't understand how this can possibly be related to the topic.
that link is about people who committed crimes against humanity.? and the investigations against them?

it doesn't look like anything is actually being done there. I mean, yes, you can hold a guy in custody for 8 years while he is being investigated, but seriously, what???

also, please respond to the Osama bin Laden thingie~

This was not an accident. This guy intentionally drove his truck towards three men and hit one man before he drove away. It all started when the suspect was driving really slowly on a road. The truck behind attempted to pass on many occasions but the suspect would speed up and ram the victim's truck to stop them from passing. Eventually the suspect rammed the victim's truck and knocked in into the ditch on the side of the road. The suspect continued down the road as the victims got out of their truck. The suspect came back and then drove at the victims. Two of the victims jumped out of the way but one victim was hit, thrown 9 metres and killed. I don't see how this was an accident. The suspect had 64 previous driving offences before this incident and he was caught speeding on this same road exactly two years after the incident. This shows he was an agitator behind the wheel because he only drove slowly to annoy others.

Point is: All of them are horrible criminals. None of them will be sentenced to death.

okay...so?
I'm not sure I'm following your point. and still about our dear Osama there?

...actually I'm a bit drunk right now, but why are you using Osama as an example when he got killed and not sentenced to death in a trial

You've been hit by, you've been struck by, a smooth criminal.

if you captured Osama Bin Laden, would you have sent him to jail for life? that's the question.

I can give you much more examples you know, not necessarily world-wide known terrorists but still, Israelis get killed often =\

Why not just use Saddam Hussein?

Yes I would.

same thing~
so you think that putting him in jail would somehow cure his madness or something, and therapy might some day make him a possible Merry Poppins?

You're probably using a bad appeal to make you case here, since I have little respect for international powers. When the UN is investigating the US for our voter registration laws, out of all the evil in the world, I feel like they have no legitimate authority.

To the general form of you argument, justice can be done without killing people, this is true, but that doesn't make it right. You can do a lot of things a lot of ways; that doesn't mean that you should. Maybe this is just the yankee in me talking, but I'd rather be executed than sent to jail forever. I mean, what's the point of living if you do it in a ten by ten cell without any hope of it ever changing? Freedom or death is the battle-cry for so many causes; maybe there's a reasoning to that.

EDIT:
Lol, the most hilarious thing just happened. I hit submit for this post, and the add on the "finished" page was one for getting a free concealed carry permit. I was laughing for a solid 45 seconds.

No, and that's why I thought your original post was bad, because you believe that I believe that everyone can be "cured". It's the harshest punishment that I can give out within my boundaries, but I'm not gonna step over those.

Sniper, are you arguing that because you think that death might be preferable for you rather than life in prison, that goes for everyone?

well it was Jell then that needs to answer this more.

I really think there is nothing much to be said tho. people who don't live those cases just don't know. if someone you don't know and who doesn't know you came into your home, killed everybody except you, and ran away, would you be satisfied to just put him in jail? where he gets medical treatment, food, entertainment, vacations, maybe even sex?

Yes.

okay. I have to say I'm pretty shocked.

We haven't had the death penalty in Sweden for roughly 100 years. Nobody except the right-wing extremists wants it back (and they don't have any support from their voters on that specific issue).

Yes. No need to reduce myself to his level.

and do you think it will help? because you're just trying to make him see what's wrong in his religion?

Murder is murder, no matter what.

That is correct!

Thanks Captain Obvious for appearing in a non-humourous topic.

That's true, but lawful executions aren't murder, as I've already shown.

I'm saying I don't care. Clearly, some people would rather stick it to the families of their victims, but I don't think that means we should allow it.