Final Vote Count
Vote:
7 - Jorster23 (Isa, Thomas, DeathBunni X, Harumbai, Bmwsu, guyguyxtreme, Dando)
FoS:
5 - Jellsprout (Silver, Guyguyxtreme, Dando, Yaya, Jorster23)
5 - Thomas (Isa, Guyguyxtreme, Dando, Yaya, Woodstock)
4 - Isa (Harumbai, Soccerboy13542, Jorster23, Dando)
3 - Jorster23 (Isa, Yaya, guyguyxtreme)
2 - DeathBunni X (Harumbai, Dando)
1 - Silver (Thomas)
1 - Woodstock (Isa)
With 7 votes, Jorster23 is lynched.
It is now Night 1.
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Eww, school.
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From suspiciousness, yes. And I know what a vote is
| | FlashMarsh |
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FoS: Jellsprout
I know he takes very little on the Interguild seriously, but come on? A FoS on themselves? This seems like an attempt to become the 'joker' of the game, so no-one takes him seriously. Of course, as I said, Jellsprout is often pulling stunts like this anyway so... | | Yaya |
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UnFoS: Guyguyxtreme
Yeah.... Maybe I was a little jumpy to accuse of mafia/town, I mean you haven't done that much, for now....
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Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | Silver |
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UnFoS: Thomas
I was too quick to jump to the conclusion... | | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
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'guyguyxtreme' said: FoS: Jellsprout
I know he takes very little on the Interguild seriously, but come on? A FoS on themselves? This seems like an attempt to become the 'joker' of the game, so no-one takes him seriously. Of course, as I said, Jellsprout is often pulling stunts like this anyway so...
Actually, I'd say Jell takes a lot of things seriously, your image of that may have been altered by his old weekly updates. | | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
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'DeathBunni X' said: From suspiciousness, yes.
What's your suspiciousness based on? Nobody has made it clear why he or she finds me suspicious and I'm curious as of why. | | Sefro |
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The people who don't say much and refuse to explain their suspicions probably won't last long.
By refusing to explain your thoughts and your suspicions, you're denying everybody else the chance to pick apart what you say. You can say you're waiting to see what happens before you accuse anybody, but the problem is that you're a part of what happens. Isa and Thomas may both seem a bit suspicious, but at least Isa is risking exposing himself and giving the rest of us something to work with.
FoS: Thomas.
FoS: Deathbunni.
That said, it's entirely likely that they are Town and are just being overly cautious. Don't be! The best way to prove you're innocent is to prove you have nothing to hide; if you really are Town, there's no chance of you slipping up and saying something that proves you're Mafia. Meanwhile, the Mafia always have to watch what they say. Therefore, being more open with your suspicions and explanations makes it harder for them to fit in with the crowd. I encourage everyone to do this, because otherwise we won't make any progress and probably end up voting at random. Anyway, moving on.
FoS: Jellsprout.
This isn't because he isn't saying enough, but because of what he's saying and how he's acting.
I pointed this out before, but I'll expand on it.
'Jellsprout on page 2' said: Why would Isa be so quick to cast a FoS, when his reasoning is in contradiction with the gamemaster's rules? The easiest way to convince people you are innocent, is by accusing others, correct?
FoS: Isa
He explains what he thinks the best way to appear innocent would be, and then he follows through with it. This would suggest that he's trying to appear innocent, wouldn't it? It's essentially him saying, "If I were Mafia, I would act like this," followed by him acting just how he described. It also shows that appearing innocent is something that is on his mind. That point is reinforced by this:
'Jellsprout on page 3' said: The best way to avoid suspicions is to make people forget you. Draw as little attention as possible to yourself, and nobody will even consider you when voting.
Sort of like how Jell is trying to divert all suspicion to Isa. Remember, Jell was the first person to accuse Isa, and everybody else just decided to go with it. When you think about it, his case against Isa is really rather weak, and it does seem like he's just trying to keep attention on someone else (and succeeding). At this point, it looks like Jell is the person I'm voting for, but I'll wait to see his response before I cast it. It looks like he realized how suspicious he's making himself look, and his FoS was to make a joke out of it.
Guyguy, Yaya, Silver, Harumbai, and Isa (by association with Jell) seem innocent to me so far, but that may change. Jorster and Woodstock have yet to say anything substantial, so I can't comment on them.
| | DeathBunni X |
Eww, school.
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Un-vote Isa
Un-FoS Bwmsu
I just wanted to make something happen. But Isa's history of Mafia and overall knowledge of the game (even if we had to read the rules) does seem pretty suspicious. Plus his thinking...
I'll go with a
FoS: Isa
Bwmsu talked his way into innocence.
| | DeathBunni X |
Eww, school.
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Plus with the length of isa's posts and the skims I've made over them he's been very... Well making a short statement feel longer. Like what I do in science class. So it's a form of word manipulation paired with rhetorical questions.
| | soccerboy13542 |
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In the story someone named Farmer Dandovitch ends up kicking my head off or something is this Dando? Maybe CSD is secretly giving a hint towards the mafia? O:
'Livio' said: You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me. | | Thomas |
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'Dando' said: That said, it's entirely likely that they are Town and are just being overly cautious. Don't be! The best way to prove you're innocent is to prove you have nothing to hide; if you really are Town, there's no chance of you slipping up and saying something that proves you're Mafia. Meanwhile, the Mafia always have to watch what they say. Therefore, being more open with your suspicions and explanations makes it harder for them to fit in with the crowd. I encourage everyone to do this, because otherwise we won't make any progress and probably end up voting at random. Anyway, moving on. You're FoSing me then saying I'm likely town?
'Silver' said: UnFoS: Thomas
I was too quick to jump to the conclusion... I was originally suspicious of you because you FoSed Bmwsu when he was blaming Captain Obvious as a joke (or because he said he wanted to FoS all players). But I got even more suspicious after you FoSed me back and I had only made 1 post and I just have a feeling you're hiding something.
'guyguyxtreme' said: FoS: Silver
FoS: Thomas
One of these two is likely Mafia. Why? Because neither came up with a defence for their FoS. I am especially suspicious of Silver because of FoS'ing someone in self-defence. This could be to avoid a mafia lynch. As for Yaya's FoS on me, is agreeing with soemone not allowed? I got more suspicious of Silver because I think she decided to un-FoS me after reading that post where guyguyxtreme said you FoSed in self-defense.
When somebody quotes a post with an FoS/Vote it does not count for one of their FoS votes right? | | Sefro |
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'Thomas' said: You're FoSing me then saying I'm likely town?
Whoops. I meant to say "possible", not "likely". | | Silver |
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@Thomas: I don't think you've heard of jumping to the conclusion too quickly. I was considering very little facts at the time. I feel stupid now. But I FoSed you because you never gave a single inkling of explanation to WHY you FoS'd me and it made me suspicious. Then I felt like an idiot and un-FoSed you because I didn't feel like I gave enough suspicion towards your direction. | | Harumbai |
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Dando makes some good points...
I am less suspicious of Isa now, but I wont be as quick to unFoS as some people. To me at least once you become more aware of what someone is posting each thing they say seems to act against them just because you have become prejudiced. I still am still wary of Isa as he seems to understand the game very well so him being a mafia and disguising it by playing the innocent game beginner seems quite plausible.
FoS: Thomas
Thomas seems to be thinking quite a lot about who to vote for and not always explaining all that he is thinking. This makes him a dangerous player as some of his arguments seem slightly whimsical to me and possibly therefore made up (assuming he was in the mafia and was blaming random people).
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'Harumbai' said: I still am still wary of Isa as he seems to understand the game very well so him being a mafia and disguising it by playing the innocent game beginner seems quite plausible.
I'm still wary of Isa, too. That is pretty plausible indeed, and Jell's points certainly weren't without merit. I think it was just how aggressively he went after Isa, based on pretty insubstantial evidence, that makes him the more suspicious of the two. Isa is by no means off the hook, though, and to clarify, the list of people I think may be innocent is more based on general impressions than anything else. | | jellsprout |
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Isa's history does not imply that he is in the mafia. CSD picked the mafia members at random. To be honest, I think Isa would react that same way even if he was (or wasn't) in the maffia. It is still too early in the day for these FoS's to have any real impact, so I am just toying with him a bit. I know that he was just FoS'ing to put some discussion in this game, I was doing the same thing. To be honest, I think 10 days are too long for a day, say I was just trying to generate some activity in a fase that doesn't actually matter.
UnFoS: Isa
UnFoS: jellsprout
| | jellsprout |
Lord of Sprout Tower
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Sorry for the double post, but I forgot to say that I FoS'd Isa to toy with him a bit. As I said, this part of the game is completely unimportant. All of this will probably be forgotten once the actual voting starts. So I was just having a little fun.
| | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
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I agree with Dando's first few paragraphs but find Jell's post very plausible, and was about to write roughly the same thing in his defence.
I am certain that on Day 1, it is too early to accurately state who's a Mafia member or not. Regardless of what good theories one may have, we have no actions that we can use to aid our analysis. Therefore, I suggest that unless Jorster and Woodstock get active, we vote for one of those. Both DBX and Thomas contributes more than them right now.
FoS: Jorster23
FoS: Woodstock | | Yaya |
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UnFoS: Isa
I kinda see where Jell is going, I think Isa would've acted like this no matter what team they were on.
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Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | Jorster |
mfw
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I think that Isa Is trying to raise suspicions about other people so people will ignore him...
FoS: Isa
| | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
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How can I possibly be ignored if I post a lot? Posting a lot is a sure-fire way to remind others that you're still in the game, while I didn't even know that Woodstock was in it before I checked the first page. Who's trying to get people to ignore him/her? It sure isn't me.
Same goes for you. You're not posting, which makes people ignore you. This is suspicious, in my opinion. We'd also lose nothing from voting you out because of that. | | Yaya |
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FoS: Jorster
It seems like he pretty much said that statement to not seem suspicious for staying on the sidelines, blending in even better then just posting by accusing Isa...
FoS: Jellsprout
He's just trying to act goofy to get associated with goodness. And the last quote Dando put in her large post shows that Jellsprout if acting this way so nobody will take his affiliation seriously. At the moment, I see him as the mostly likely to be Mafia person whose posted.
COMING SOON: A giant meteor. Please.
Give me +karma. Give me +karma. | | Isa |
No. I'm an octopus.
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CSD, do you mind if I create a header post that us mods can update when new FoS'es show up? | | jellsprout |
Lord of Sprout Tower
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And votes too.
| | Woodstock |
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I'm not suspecting anybody yet because I think it's too early to suspect anybody of being in the mafia. There's not enough proof, and I don't want to falsely accuse somebody.
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