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| HatXC Mafia - Day 2 |
| Harumbai | ||
| [|]-X-[|] Age: 30 Karma: 260 Posts: 1743 Location: New Zealand pm | email |
Well, I don't have anything unincriminating to say right now to make you realise I'm innocent, but I'm not bothered. How do you know Nebneb carried out the kill? He could of been killed by the Independant, which I think is likely actually and any one of the mafia could have killed Yaya. That is just my take. Ok CSD wasn't sure, but he said that Nebneb would of been who he'd lynch today so I don't see what is wrong with not being completely sure he didn't kill him. To me my logic still makes sense. Upcoming HatPC level: Sanctuary, coming soon to an internet browser near you... | |
| jellsprout | ||
| Lord of Sprout Tower Karma: -2147482799 Posts: 6445 Gender: Male pm | email |
I don't know if we should look too deep into Isa's descriptions of the night actions. They are probably just meaningless flavor text. I see no reason to assume anything other than the Independent killing Nebnebben and the Protagonists killing Yaya Also, with the Crates' Detective dead, the only threat to the Protagonists now appears to be the Serial Killer. Spoiler: | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
We shouldn't look too deeply into them, but I still think that the description does hold some meaning. If Isa was doing meaningless flavor, then had Armin would have found the gem and then discovered hannah's dead body. There would be no reason for Isa to have some unknown taking away the gem in the distance. "On a lesser note, I saw a precious gem in the distance, glowing like a beacon, but it abruptly stopped after a while. I think I heard footsteps afterwards, but I am not sure." This tells me that: 1. Armin(/the protagonist group) didn't have anything to do with yaya 2. Armin(/the protagonist group) has no clue who killed yaya ("I think I heard footsteps afterwards, but I am not sure.") "Ok CSD wasn't sure, but he said that Nebneb would of been who he'd lynch today so I don't see what is wrong with not being completely sure he didn't kill him. To me my logic still makes sense." That's a valid point but what you fail to realize is that if CSD was independent and was onto nebneb, he would kill someone else and then try to get nebneb lynched the next day. He managed to get bm lynched without even trying, so I'm sure after seeing that, he'd have little reason to think he couldn't get someone lynched when it's he's intending to and actually has evidence behind it. Of course, it is possible that he didn't want to go through the trouble of getting him lynched, and just decided to take matters into his own hands. We shouldn't conclude that anyone is or is not the independent, or at least declare it to all of us. Think about it like this, or if you're lazy and don't want to make sure that you agree with this, only read the summary below the spoiler: Spoiler: Long story short: Keep completely quiet about independents. If you suspect someone is an independent, keep it to yourself for now. So yeah, basically what I'm saying is that on this subject of independents, you should think about it independently(sorry I had to). Also if you are the independent, your best chance at winning and surviving longer in general is to not kill someone tonight.  spooky secret | |
| Thomas | ||
| the clique shall prevail Karma: 111 Posts: 2503 Gender: Female Location: clique pm | email |
Why are people no longer suspicious of CSD? I thought it was suspicious how he argued against how Quirvy said nebnebben's mafia list is likely all town. I'll be going away tomorrow and I won't be back until the 27th after 11:59 pm EST so I won't be able to vote today but I will read all missed posts when I return. | |
| soccerboy13542 | ||
| ~*~Soccer~*~ Karma: 450 Posts: 4466 Gender: Male Location: 1945 pm | email |
Sorry guys, my dad cleared my cookies on me and i forgot my pw and stuff. back lol. wait what? my character really limits me it's quite annoying. derp. what's going on here? really killing the mood. WHY AM I HERE?!?!?! 'Livio' said: You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me. | |
| jellsprout | ||
| Lord of Sprout Tower Karma: -2147482799 Posts: 6445 Gender: Male pm | email |
I am first waiting for CSD to respond to my post before making any solid accusations. I have made it clear in my previous post that I find his accusations to be very odd. Spoiler: | |
| Thomas | ||
| the clique shall prevail Karma: 111 Posts: 2503 Gender: Female Location: clique pm | email |
@Jellsprout Yep that's why I think he mafia. He should go back on Quirvy's list of people to investigate further in my opinion. | |
| jazz | ||
Karma: 108 Posts: 3050 pm | email |
Ok, now that I am back, I really don't know who to suspect. I think that Jell, Quirvy, Silver, and Thomas are innocent because Neb suspected them. Or maybe he snuck in a few of his comrades with them. And I made such a fuss about 'I'm gonna be away' so I wouldn't get lynched for inactivity. | |
| Thomas | ||
| the clique shall prevail Karma: 111 Posts: 2503 Gender: Female Location: clique pm | email |
'Jazz' said: Ok, now that I am back, I really don't know who to suspect. I think that Jell, Quirvy, Silver, and Thomas are innocent because Neb suspected them. Or maybe he snuck in a few of his comrades with them. This will be my last post now until the next day. Bye! | |
| Thomas | ||
| the clique shall prevail Karma: 111 Posts: 2503 Gender: Female Location: clique pm | email |
Nevermind that's not my last post I made a typo. I meant to say "nebnebben is new to the game" not "CSD is new to the game". Bye guys! | |
| jazz | ||
Karma: 108 Posts: 3050 pm | email |
But still, the mafia are tricky fellows. There could be a chance that he snuck in every mafioso with them... | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
'Jazz' said: But still, the mafia are tricky fellows. There could be a chance that he snuck in every mafioso with them... nebneb was trying to throw us off track by making accusations at non-mafia(specifically me and Thomas). And he wasn't doing a very good job of it and was not giving up. I don't think he was planning on getting caught any time soon, and as a result didn't think to place mafia in his list so that no one would focus on the real mafia. The very last thing I think that he would do is put 2 mafia in his list. I still consider the possibility that there's a mafia snuck into his list, but I'm focusing my attention to those not on the list and are not CSD. But that's only me. I personally find myself interested in who DBX, Jazz, guyguy, Harumbai and soccerboy think is the most likely to be a member of the mafia and why. spooky secret | |
| DeathBunni X | ||
| Eww, school. Age: 26 Karma: 87 Posts: 690 Gender: Female Location: Midwest pm | email |
Well I think Jell is the mafiat. Vote: Jellsprout I explained my reason previously. It's more of a hunch than anything, really.  | |
| Silver | ||
Karma: 121 Posts: 3581 Gender: Female pm | email |
I want to wait for a bit more evidence first before deciding. I wonder where CSD has gone? | |
| jazz | ||
Karma: 108 Posts: 3050 pm | email |
I think Neb was killed by the serial killer, and Yaya was killed by the mafia. I don't know how that will help, though. | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
hai guyz. just a reminder: This is the part where you don't vote for jellsprout yet, because we've got 5-6 days left to vote, and because there are people who are much more suspicious then jell anyways spooky secret | |
| Quirvy | ||
| Â Â Karma: 655 Posts: 7753 Gender: Male pm | email |
Oh, also: 'Jazz' said: I think Neb was killed by the serial killer, and Yaya was killed by the mafia. I don't know how that will help, though. 'Earlier this page, Quirvy, in response to jell disagreeing with him and claiming that we should assume the mafia killed Yaya,' said: If Isa was doing meaningless flavor, then had Armin would have found the gem and then discovered hannah's dead body. There would be no reason for Isa to have some unknown taking away the gem in the distance. "On a lesser note, I saw a precious gem in the distance, glowing like a beacon, but it abruptly stopped after a while. I think I heard footsteps afterwards, but I am not sure." This tells me that: 1. Armin(/the protagonist group) didn't have anything to do with yaya 2. Armin(/the protagonist group) has no clue who killed yaya ("I think I heard footsteps afterwards, but I am not sure.") If you get the time you might want to read up on some posts. spooky secret | |
| jazz | ||
Karma: 108 Posts: 3050 pm | email |
So maybe it's a Jack of all Trades? | |
| Harumbai | ||
| [|]-X-[|] Age: 30 Karma: 260 Posts: 1743 Location: New Zealand pm | email |
I'm most suspicious of DBX and CSD. DBX has had plenty of opportunities to say things, but hasn't really disclosed anything. CSD has been acting odd it seems to me, even since the first post of guessing who the mafia which immediately gave the appearance that he is not one. Upcoming HatPC level: Sanctuary, coming soon to an internet browser near you... | |
| Isa | ||
| No. I'm an octopus. Age: 31 Karma: 686 Posts: 7833 Gender: Male Location: Uppsala, Sweden - GMT +1 pm | email |
Vote/FoS count: Votes: 2 - Jellsprout (canadianstickdeath, DeathBunni X) FoS'es: 1 - Jazz (guyguyxtreme) 1 - Jellsprout (DeathBunni X) 1 - canadianstickdeath (Thomas) 1 - Harumbai (Thomas) With 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch. Deadline for the day phase: May 27th, 2010, 11:59PM Interguild Time Word of God is that flavour is tricky to write. I wish I wrote it simpler. | |
| canadianstickdeath | ||
Age: 35 Karma: 350 Posts: 2990 Gender: Male pm | email |
"CSD, I am not playing as logically as last time?" There's a difference between not playing seriously and not playing logically. Quirvy seemed (and I say "seemed", because it's still very possible that he "knew") to have picked up that lynching Bmwsu was a wrong decision (and it was obvious to me as well, but, as I said, it was too late to stop) but it seemed like it was completely lost on you. When you had your chance to stop it, you instead ensured it would go though. "It is also the end of the school year, and mentally I am starting to get drained, so my posts probably have less energy put into them than the previous time." I don't buy these types of excuses and I feel that the mafia are more likely to attempt to use them. Maybe it's true that you're drained, but what I think it's doing is it's causing you to do a poorer job keeping up your disguise. "Every time we lynched someone for proper reasons, they turned out to be Townies." OK, so let's lynch people for improper reasons? "so I'll just tag along and [vote]" Shameless bandwagoning. You're mafia, right? "I'd rather lynch inactive people this early in the game than active people I find suspicious, for the simple reason that lynching those active people makes the game less fun." Lynching inactives when there are clearly more suspicious alternatives? Right. "This is the part where you don't vote for jellsprout yet, because we've got 5-6 days left to vote" The only problem that could arise from voting for Jell is if somebody goes and ends the day too early. If somebody does do that, it'll come off as mighty suspicious. Just, be aware, when you vote, of how many votes somebody has and how much time is left in the day. If you think Jellsprout is suspicious, then a little more pressure shouldn't hurt. | |
| FlashMarsh | ||
Age: 25 Karma: 99 Posts: 2727 Gender: Male Location: UK pm | email |
I don't think we have solid enough reasons to lynch Jell, so I'll go with a FoS: Jellsprout. | |
| jellsprout | ||
| Lord of Sprout Tower Karma: -2147482799 Posts: 6445 Gender: Male pm | email |
There were no suspicious alternatives. It was Day 1. With no actions done yet and nobody having been killed, any "suspicion" is as meaningless as throwing a dice. I would rather lynch a person who doesn't contribute to the game who might be a Townie than to lynch nobody at all and have the game end up dead later on. I have never made this a secret, not this game not the previous game. And I am not the only one to play like this either. Quirvy plays like this, Isa played like this the previous time. Are their actions also illogical? Are they also as suspicious as me? Your accusations are as empty as they were before. Vote: DeathBunni X Your reasoning is even worse than CSD's. How exactly is it beneficial for the mafia to stall the game? It is best for them to rush the lynching before anyone has any time to think anything through. And how exactly am I stalling for time? I stated in that post you quoted that we should to lynch. It would appear you and CSD are trying to get rid of me. What could this possibly mean? Spoiler: | |
| FlashMarsh | ||
Age: 25 Karma: 99 Posts: 2727 Gender: Male Location: UK pm | email |
Jellsprout, you have persuaded me. Vote: DBX | |
| DeathBunni X | ||
| Eww, school. Age: 26 Karma: 87 Posts: 690 Gender: Female Location: Midwest pm | email |
Ok, here we go... 'jellsprout' said: That is interesting. Do you have any motivation for these predictions are are they just a gut feeling? You're being a hypocrite here. Here you say that you're going with a gut feeling as well. There's no need to bite your tongue if you mean to be honest. 'jellsprout' said: Especially at this point in the game there isn't really any certainty on who to lynch, so it would be best to lynch just a random guy for the Crates, while it would be best to lynch specific people for the Protagonists. We should also remember that there probably are Neutrals who want to get rid of us. There is more than just the Protagonists to worry about? Although he was the independent last game, he knows how much of a force they are. Although they are not working together (coining independent), he knows they are a force. But how much of the force he has not predicted. If he has experience, shouldn't he be telling us all he knows about being the indy to further town's domination. 'jellsprout' said: It is too early to know who is suspicious and who isn't. We haven't actually had the time to properly judge anyone. And look how it went last time. Every time we lynched someone for proper reasons, they turned out to be Townies. At this point in the game it is easy for the Mafia to act normal. Furthermore, you need to lynch someone, or else the Mafia will get the initiative. The Mafia don't know the roles, but they know the people. They know who could be threats and who couldn't. It should also be noted that putting the suspicion on other people is the best way to make yourself safe. I never find the first day to be very interesting, and with 4 votes I don't think Bmwsu's odds to survive are too high to begin with, so I'll just tag along and Vote: Bmwsu Although he is slightly panicky, which everyone expects of everyone, he bites his tounge again and joins the headhunt. Why be a hypocrite? And, well at least to me, it seems as if he was thinking in a mafia mind. And he has made many suspicions known, so he defends himself as "safe". 'jellsprout' said: Quirvy, you have convinced me. Unvote: Bmwsu Vote: Quirvy Unvote: Quirvy Vote: Bmwsu Never mind that. Bmwsu has already 8 votes by my counting, so it wouldn't matter anyway, and I wouldn't want it to happen that other people will also start unvoting Bmwsu and voting Quirvy. I am suspicious of Quirvy, mostly because he is smarter than most people in this game, partly because of his previous post, but to be honest I'd rather remove Bmw than Quirvy. Quirvy is simpy more interesting to have around. Like how inactivity struck after Dando, Isa and I got killed previous game. What was the point of that? To prove he had a point in the headhunt? And if he is mafia, he knows Bmw isn't mafia, and since he has no point to vote anymore, it's just proof against him. And what is with switching from voting to Quirvy to voting for me? And that is what I have from Day 1. | |
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