Now what I find funny is that I was looking through the roles posted in the mafia sign up and I found everyones roles - EXCEPT Thomas' role you can look for yourself, but I will post some evidance:
My role in the list:
Harumbi's role:
Quirvy's role:
Jell's role:
Most roles are tweaked, but apart from DBX (who we know is town and probably has a special role for the theme) only Thomas' is not on the list. Suspicious? I think so. As if it were a special role created for the theme, it would fit in with it's name 'treasure chest', like DBX's special role fits in with the water tap name, NOT be a role that does not relate to the name.

Anyone else find this suspicious?

Hey jell, there's a variation of 3 you missed. Thomas is town, but neither mafia have voted yet because they needed to be sure that the other mafia would be there to vote immediately afterwards.

Yuggy already made himself a target of suspicion when he voted for Thomas in what appeared to be hopes of a fast lynch on him. People still don't entirely trust you.

If you and Yuggy were mafia, what would happen if you voted Thomas, and then someone unvoted in time to save him? My personal opinion, you'd get lynched. Same thing with Yuggy. If you two were mafia, you couldn't risk voting and then someone else unvote before the other has the chance to cast the final vote.


I find Thomas' actual role to be more suspicious than the lack of its presence in the list of roles.

It's suspicious in both ways, in fact also in the not making sense with the name thing, and I didn't vote for Thomas because I wanted to wait until the end of the day, not lead a early mis-lynch. Also I did not want to appear to be bandwagoning again, you guys think I'm suspicious already so I don't want to make myself any more suspicious.  

Swing and miss. I just looked at the list and I noticed "Vanilla Townie" right at the top. My post rule isn't a role. You should also note that Isa doesn't have to use roles on that list only but he can be creative and try to make his own. He tried for me and failed badly.

@Jellsprout

All your information is biased because you do not consider yourself to be mafia. I still believe you are mafia with Yuggy and this won't be changing.

Your post rule is a role. Anything that gives you any advantages or disadvantages is a role. If Isa failed badly, why does everyone else have sensible, non-fishy roles? (Besides the CSD role, but it makes more sense than yours)

And there you go again with not defending yourself properly (if you can) and shoving the attention on someone you KNOW won't be lynched today.

I would make a terrible mafiat.

We still have three days either way so lets wait. Saying that, it's probably around tomorrow or sunnday when we need to vote, so by the time some of you read this, it will be time to lynch someone

This has nothing to do with anything, but I notice Thomas using the phrase "Swing and miss" a lot today.


I wonder if he's imitating me, because he wants to mock me, because he sees me as having passed off as a town member very well and is trying to do things I'm doing, both, or if he just picked it up on his own.



Also, it's kind of amazing how with only half the members we had at the beginning of the game we've already got the most posts in a day topic in this game, and we're only about 10 posts away from breaking the 164 commented Day 1 topic from last game. Even if this day ends in a mislynch and we all lose except for the two of you that are mafia, at least we had a much more interesting end to our game than the last game.


Anyways, despite what I said about yuggy being easier to lynch than jellsprout, we shouldn't limit ourselves to just Yuggy or Thomas. Jellsprout could end up being our best decision to kill as I see the least likely partnership being Silver and Thomas, because of the way Yuggy jumped on Thomas and because of this exchange between silver and Thomas. I can't rule them out but I at least will say I think that Jell-Yuggy and Jell-Thomas are both more likely than Thomas-Yuggy.

And of course Harumbai could be mafia, too, but I'd tend to hope not because there is no way we'd be able to detect that or lynch him, so if Harumbai is mafia we're screwed anyways and it doesn't matter. The same thing applies to me, the three people we're not looking at are me, DBX and Harumbai, because we haven't drawn suspicion on ourselves with mistakes, like Jell's day 1 vote and lack of ideas on day 2 following the DBX/CSD vs Jell thing, Thomas' bandwagon voting, stupid arguments and brushing off arguments without validly countering them, and Silver's lack of contribution paired with Yuggy's Thomas vote.

Speaking of Harumbai, why hasn't Harumbai spoken? HARUMBAI! What do you make of the situation?


Also, the last protagonist. I wonder who it is. CSD or Shos? Hannah's Grandfather? Ruby the Brave?

I don't suspect DBX because of CSD's early claim and I don't suspect Thomas because his role claim is one that could very easily backfire if he actually were Mafia. I've made it clear that I still suspect Harumbai alongside Thomas and Yuggy.

And Quirvy, I want you to know how stupid I find you dismissing Harumbai as Mafia just because he is too good at hiding it to be.

I originally suggested Kanrik as third Mafia member. Ruby the Brave or Hugsy would also be great choices.

Something I forgot.



My, Yuggy and Isa all live in about the same timezone., a few hours earlier than DBX and Harumbai. If we actually were Mafia, we would have ended this day before you woke up.

I'm not dismissing him as possibly being mafia, I'm saying that unless he screws up big time we have no reason to and will not be able to lynch him. The chances that we're going to lynch him today, or at all, are extremely low. Has anybody been saying anything about him that makes him look suspicious? I would like you to elaborate on why you suspect that Harumbai might be mafia, besides that he hasn't been proven to be town.

I'm not saying that he's not mafia, I'm saying if he is we're screwed because from what I've seen so far no one (except apparently you) is looking at him as a suspect.

Still don't think you'd take the risk of getting lynched if Yuggy for whatever reason isn't able to show up. I at least wouldn't.

Vote/FoS count:

Votes:
1 - Yuggy (Thomas)
1 - Thomas (Harumbai)

FoS'es:
2 - Jellsprout (Thomas, Harumbai)
2 - Thomas (DeathBunni X, Harumbai)
1 - Harumbai (DeathBunni X)
2 - Yuggy (Harumbai, Thomas)

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
Deadline for the day phase: June 20th, 2011, 11:59PM Interguild Time

I still want you to send me your role PM's, as I wrote in the OP. Only two users have done it so far.

Hey Harumbai (Just to get your attention.)

You aren't going to unvote me are you? Well your probably not even going to post again today but just for you I can try to defend from Jellsprout's atrocious and 'swing and miss' accusations. Also assuming you aren't mafia, we'll probably need all 4 townies to make a lynch on a mafia.

Well I know you're mafia so should we wait and collect data if there's nothing left to collect? I am not interested in anything you are saying because all your information is biased like so:


On day 1 you were in on voting Bmwsu out too. I doubt Bmwsu was even planning on posting again. I don't need somebody to defend themselves I just do whatever Quirvy or CSD does. On day 2 I voted because there was no way guyguy would survive that. He was online before apparently and he had the opportunity to defend but he chose to die. On day 3 Jazz gave up by 2nd vote and I made 3rd vote then you voted after me. It's not my fault these people don't chose to defend so your information is invalid.

After nebnebben's mafia list the whole focus was on lynching. If the lynch wasn't so early perhaps your 3rd mafia (Silver) would have posted but she is known to fly under the radar.

Well it's good you guys didn't lynch me because lynching Jell will pay off.

I expected you to point that out sooner or later. I do it because it worked for you so people think you're town so maybe it will work for me? Not that I'm mafia.

It's my fault this day got so many posts. This will be a record breaking day in 2 ways:
- mosts posts
- thomas leads a mafia lynch?

I see my defense isn't working for Thomas, so let me instead try his approach.

I am not Mafia, lynch Thomas plox.

We need to start thinking about who to lynch around now, personly I would lynch Thomas. But I wont vote for him. Yet. I will vote tomorrow, but any time from now we should start voting. So my fellow townies, feel free to start voting for who you think is mafia. We have one last shot to lynch a mafia, unless the night kill fails, so lets all agree on who to lynch, we can't rush today and then lynch a townie as we would lose.

Yuggy you're right.

Unvote: Yuggy
Vote: Thomas

I think we should lynch Thomas even though you're way more suspicious than him.

Unvote: Thomas
Vote: Yuggy

So you're suspicious of me because of my role? Well even your mafia partner Jell defended me:
Everyone has been suspicious of me right? Well mafia won't do something to attract that much attention.

I'm torn between voting for Thomas or Yuggy. Ughhh...

Thomas is this what you call being defended? Because it looks very much like Jell wants to lynch you. He has even been kind enough to translate it into your own language.

Vote/FoS count:

Votes:
1 - Yuggy (Thomas)
1 - Thomas (Harumbai)

FoS'es:
2 - Jellsprout (Thomas, Harumbai)
2 - Thomas (DeathBunni X, Harumbai)
1 - Harumbai (DeathBunni X)
2 - Yuggy (Harumbai, Thomas)

With 6 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch.
Deadline for the day phase: June 20th, 2011, 11:59PM Interguild Time
Less than 48 hours left. If you haven't come to any conclusions by then, the day will end without a lynch.

First of all, it seems to me like you're just imitating everyone else in an attempt to look like you aren't mafia.

Secondly, Jellsprout was referring to me when he said that, he messed up, and it was clear that he did, except for the people who ignore things like following sentences. Observe the very next sentence in that post: "I've made it clear that I still suspect Harumbai alongside Thomas and Yuggy."

Thirdly, you'd make a great politician if you didn't suck at this so much. The part where you took jell's quote and twisted what he meant to say by leaving that one sentence out is something similar to what I see a lot in political commercials.

It seems to me that thomas is too... stupid, to be mafia. And we only have today and tomorrow. Decisions, decisions!

Vote: Yuggy

Well, the problem here is that on one hand, Yuggy made a bandwagon vote on Thomas, and the last person do something like that was guyguy(Before that I'd say Thomas, day 1)

But on the other hand, Thomas' role makes no sense, kind of like Harumbai in the last game.

Dando = Silencer == Treasure chest = Must post 5+ times each day

Sure, he's got that "at night only protagonists can kill me" thing going for him, but is that really enough to base a character and role off of?


Additionally I notice that both Yuggy and Thomas' arguments have been about equally as flat, the only difference is that Thomas is being more aggressive than Yuggy and has been posting more.

There is only one day left, so time to vote.

Vote: Thomas

Time to vote as well, Thomas is not getting out of his hole and refuses to properly defend himself. For this and also his fishy role I am now going to:
vote: Thomas

As I have to sleep, this will be my last post today. My final wish? That we -the town- lynch Thomas and stop another mafia win. I guess I will see the results in the morning.