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Thursday, October 1 2009, 1:42 pm EST
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Applied Physics.
And you did math or something, correct?


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did? yeah, i'm doing a degree in Math and Physics. not applied, but uh...how do you say it in english...mm dunno...so let's call it, uh, theoretical?


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I think theoretical is the correct term. That is at least the term we use in Dutch.


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what do you do with theoretical math and physics? research and experiment looking for new equations?

btw, I just saw a news report that says that scientists have calculated that real talent comes from nothing else but practice. ground-breaking discovery.....
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well, these are nothing but random fraudlents!..you can't practice something that has never been done; and that's the only thing you can become a 'tallent'  - do something that hasn't been done. the 5 theorems i've invented? or thought i invented? these are good. my friend is the same - he has invented 3 theorems and 1 subject - or thought he had.

by the way, he used to play hatpc too >_>


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The logic behind that is clear: To be good at math, you must have played HatPC.
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....or the contrary, you know, that's more likely and stuff. you know Euler? he was just around a God in math?...don't think he visited the Interguild so often. see, he died around 1700  


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'Livio' said:
btw, I just saw a news report that says that scientists have calculated that real talent comes from nothing else but practice. ground-breaking discovery.....


That is not true. To become a talent, you must have a natural skill and that subject. To actually develop that skill to professional level, you do need many years of practice. But saying that the only factor in talent is practice, that is simply not true.

The difference between Theoretical and Applied Physics is very little. It is not much more than Physics at Amsterdam and Physics at Rotterdam, to give an example. The main difference is that with Theoretical Physics you learn stuff that can't be proven and thus have no practical use, such as the string theory. In Applied Physics, you use those extra hours to learn how to use the physics you know and turn them into practical use. Like using magnetism to design a fridge. Or designing a radio on nano-scale.
But the real difference is that I get the title engineer, which you don't get with Theoretical Physics.


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'Livio' said:
btw, I just saw a news report that says that scientists have calculated that real talent comes from nothing else but practice. ground-breaking discovery.....


That is not true. To become a talent, you must have a natural skill and that subject. To actually develop that skill to professional level, you do need many years of practice. But saying that the only factor in talent is practice, that is simply not true.

The difference between Theoretical and Applied Physics is very little. It is not much more than Physics at Amsterdam and Physics at Rotterdam, to give an example. The main difference is that with Theoretical Physics you learn stuff that can't be proven and thus have no practical use, such as the string theory. In Applied Physics, you use those extra hours to learn how to use the physics you know and turn them into practical use. Like using magnetism to design a fridge. Or designing a radio on nano-scale.
But the real difference is that I get the title engineer, which you don't get with Theoretical Physics.
yea, that's somewhat true - but it can be proved. i mean, some. my friend and I, have proved what we call his theorems, which are N-dimensional theorems. this means, our theorems work for 4 dimensions, 10 dimensions, and in general, whatever dimension you want. it's more abstract with 1 dimennsion than in 4 dimensions, for example. but when we showed these stuff to the Professor who is the head of the Math department at the university, he told us that these stuff have been already proved, and there is a whole theory about these stuff, called 'Simplexes'. this was quite annoying, cuz well, obviously simplex comes from the word simple.

anyways, my theorems have also been found earlier, and they don't have anything iwth physics.


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I don't like the excessive need for proving stuff in Math. When in every single case theory A appears to be true, I consider it to be true. I don't need a 20 page proof to realise it is true for every instance.


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'Dando' said:
It takes about ten years in total to become a judge, including the time you must spend as a lawyer. I'm not even a fifth of the way there. =( Then you need to go back to school and take an intensive five-year course in the wielding of gavels.

But the years of memorization pays off in the end, because judges on average make more money than any other group in Canada, including doctors. Some judges make over $215000 per year, which is pretty crazy.


Heh, I took Law at AS-level and I must admit that it was one of the most painful experiences I've ever had. Our teacher has been a solicitor for 25 years and thought she'd give teaching a go, which was unfortunate for me. The case that I'll never forget is the one called 'Cheeseman'. We then had to study the details of this case for a week. The only other one I remember is 'Donoghue vs Stevenson', which involved a snail in a bottle of ginger beer - something about companies owing a duty of care to the consumer (am I right???). Now I think of it, I did actually learn something. I hate to say it though, but a career in law would be the last thing on Earth that I'd do - if I had a thousand lives to spend, I wouldn't even bother trying it. The pay's good, but money isn't everything... Good luck with your career though - please don't become a tedious law teacher when you reach your 50s.
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'jellsprout' said:
That is not true. To become a talent, you must have a natural skill and that subject. To actually develop that skill to professional level, you do need many years of practice. But saying that the only factor in talent is practice, that is simply not true.
well, they found that the more you use certain parts of your brain, the more of this kind of substance builds up around those specific nerves, which insulate the nerves, and improves the accuracy and speed of the signals. So to have a talent at something, you could probably have done things in your daily life that have set your brain up correctly to that task, and practice is what improves it and really makes it into a true skill. something like that...

speaking of Law, I remember when I was in middle school nearly everyone said that they wanted to be a lawyer when they grew up. maybe it had something to do because I was in the East coast? Here in the west, people don't really want to go to college.

Btw, I heard the 2016 olympics was going to be in Rio de Janeiro, which is pretty cool. I still can't believe I saw people in Chicago crying over it. I also just found out that there was an entire group called "No Games Chicago", who heavily opposed the idea of having the Olympic games there. I've looked in numerous places, including all over the "No Games Chicago" official website, and I just can't seem to find why the heck they oppose the idea. 0_o

But apparently they did say: "If you're a Chicagoan, Rio's budget deficit does not matter." Deficit? Maybe in the immediate terms, but they're going to make crazy tourism money from hosting the Olympics, aren't they? I hate it when people keep opposing ideas b/c they don't think it's worth making any investment to help pay off our crazy deficit. I mean, that's supposedly the main reason Obama's going all out on health care reform because the current system is draining all our money, and yet people just can't seem to comprehend the fact that you can spend money now to save money later. But then again, that's probably why everyone got hit so hard by the economic crisis....
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LOL I was on hulu when I got this 1-minute-and-10-second ad for some medicine that's for depressed people. 15 seconds into the ad, it started talking about possible dangers and side effects. After about 55 seconds of telling you about dangers and side effects, all I could think of was how dangerous that medicine was.

advertisement fail...
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jeb. gosh jebby, you british are freaks of nature. who would learn THAT? can't you get a better example with some woman driving without license or something~

jell. yeah, that's physicists. in Math, you have to prove everything. in physics, you just assume it's true if it seems true. so what we do is combine them somehow. etc etc.

livio. yeah. Rio.

csd. heh.


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'jebby' said:
'Dando' said:
It takes about ten years in total to become a judge, including the time you must spend as a lawyer. I'm not even a fifth of the way there. =( Then you need to go back to school and take an intensive five-year course in the wielding of gavels.

But the years of memorization pays off in the end, because judges on average make more money than any other group in Canada, including doctors. Some judges make over $215000 per year, which is pretty crazy.


Heh, I took Law at AS-level and I must admit that it was one of the most painful experiences I've ever had. Our teacher has been a solicitor for 25 years and thought she'd give teaching a go, which was unfortunate for me. The case that I'll never forget is the one called 'Cheeseman'. We then had to study the details of this case for a week. The only other one I remember is 'Donoghue vs Stevenson', which involved a snail in a bottle of ginger beer - something about companies owing a duty of care to the consumer (am I right???). Now I think of it, I did actually learn something. I hate to say it though, but a career in law would be the last thing on Earth that I'd do - if I had a thousand lives to spend, I wouldn't even bother trying it. The pay's good, but money isn't everything... Good luck with your career though - please don't become a tedious law teacher when you reach your 50s.

I've never heard of Donoghue v Stevenson (likely because it's a British case), but yeah, if it's about something like people finding something gross stuff in their food, it'd fall within the duty of care. There was a recent one about some person who found a chunk of rat in her fries at McDonald's. Blahh.

But yeah, I can see why some people would find Law painful. I absolutely hated it the first year I took it in high school (I didn't drop it because I had a crush on my teacher), but I began to like taking a case and deciding what is right and wrong with it. In my current class, we have one big debate every week and it's actually really fun. It's hyped up as a big competition, kind of, and the memorization of laws and past verdicts becomes necessary for you to win it, so it doesn't really feel much like homework. Also, for the record, general law is quite a bit less interesting than specialized practices, like criminal law.

As for not becoming a tedious teacher... I promise nothing.
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ha! The sheriff here, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who has been accused countless times of racial profiling for conducting raids to hunt for illegal Mexican immigrants (which he has no authority over), has had a federal investigation on him for a while for these laws that he's been breaking, and he just said that this is all a big conspiracy where the federal government is doing this for political advantages.

And there's actually a ton of crime here in Phoenix, most of which is probably from drugs, rather than illegals. So he's been wasting a ton of time and resources (and our police is actually low in manpower too) on all this immigration stuff.
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The Nobel Prize has become a joke.


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Because Obama won, when he hasn't done anything yet? That's why?
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How Obama gets a Nobel Prize simply because he is not Bush, while the leading person behind optic fibers had to wait over 40 years and the people who discovered telomeres had to wait over 20 before they got their Nobel Prizes is just ridiculous.
This just enforces my view on Obama. Overrated. He hasn't done anything yet except making empty promises. Yet every person is hyping over him as if he were Jesus himself.


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It's hard to not like Obama. I live in a highlly democratic area. If I simply say "I'm not crazy about Obama", 99% of people will call me racist. There a hell lot more to not liking him, though. (Not saying I don't like him cause of his color)



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Whoa! this nobel peace prize thing came out of no where!

they said they gave it to Obama because of his international policies, efforts to unite the U.S. with its enemies, his vision for the world, and for being a giant symbol of hope, basically. And actually, President Woodrow Wilson was also awarded the peace prize because of his vision for the world after WWI. We all know that failed, but he still got the prize...

I wouldn't say they gave it to him for not being Bush, but more for the effects of his existence.

About what yaya was saying, I'm also really annoyed with the really intense biases about Obama, from both the people who love him, and the people who hate him. And when these two groups of people get together, things just get ugly.... It's almost as if the more people love him, the more other people start to hate him, and vice versa.

In terms of my opinion on his policies and stuff, I generally agree with what he does.

But everyone has their own values. For example, in the whole public option debate, some people care more about the very possibility that giant corporations may not adapt to the existence of a public option and may end in the loss of some money or jobs in that industry. Meanwhile, others do not prioritize that risk over the risk of having no sure way for people to have access to health care. And also probably because it's not an entirely new idea, and that it has proven to work in other industries, such as schools, mail, and even water, for crying out loud! (you know, tap water vs. bottled water... yeah....) now I'm just on a tangent....


great. Now this news story will overlap NASA'S BOMBING OF THE MOON

I know it wasn't a bomb that they threw at the moon, but it sounds cooler that way
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So, the Nobel committee handles out one (1) Nobel Prize that they know is highly controversial.

It is not in Physics, Chemistry, Medicine, Literature or Economics, where the winners all say that their scientific progress slowed down after they were awarded. Therefore it usually takes years for those to be awarded, to let them keep on doing research on related subjects. No, instead this is awarded because of the focus on the Middle East conflict, the nuclear disarmament, increased human rights for homosexuals, and especially because of the focus on solving the conflict between Christians/Jews and Muslims - and it is awarded in an area where the Nobel Prize could actually do something, by marking that "This is good, keep on doing this" - in science, that's not as important.

There was a scientist that got the Nobel Prize when he was, I dunno, 35? Point is, he got it quickly after his discoveries were published. Nowadays he studies mind transferring and is regarded as a weirdo.

Also - would you mind telling me three other cases of Nobel Prize jokes from the last ten years?

Finally, I have to defend my country - The Norwegian Academy of somethingsomething chooses the Nobel Prize winner when it comes to the Peace Prize. The Swedish Academy chooses the rest of the winners.
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Al Gore is one of them. I can't think off the other two right now, but I know they were also Nobel Peace Prizes.

And if intention is all that matters for a Nobel Prize, Miss Universe should get a Nobel Prize for Peace.


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that would probably be Marie Curie(probably spelling mistakes in her name..). she got 2 nobels for chemistry, one of those being the discovery of the Radium, which caused her death, coincidentally.

now, who else would be given a Nobel for peace? i don't think that one should actually exist~


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I don't see Miss Universe starting a conversation with Palestine and actually having the guts to criticize Israel, I don't see Miss Universe actually talking to the leader in Iran (forgot the name).

The Peace Prize might not have been suitable for Al Gore. However, I claim that Obama totally is because he actually started things up. Granted, it might have been too early to handle it to him but I still don't think it was the wrong decision.

And don't criticize Obama for winning it, whatever you do. Not saying you have done that, but that's just stupid.

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