Why do you think he's pretty scummy all of the sudden? This is the 1st time you've mentioned it, and putting IMO in an accusation doesn't exempt you from laying down reasoning.

I've mentioned him being scummy multiple times before, for basically the same reasons as everyone else.

you totally ignored all the other actions against you though.
the reason why no one went along with the jell idea is because it is as weak as the claim you say against me.

@Jorster

No, you haven't. You started posting on page 9. Out of all your posts, I'm pretty sure I've seen you directly mention Soccerboy being scummy once. Right here. And there's no reasoning there, you just say you can't deny it.
Vote: Jorster
Please correct me if you mention him anywhere else.

I'll just unvote and wait until I have more reasoning to vote someone.

Unvote, Vote: Jorster
L-2.

We still have a week till deadline, are there any merits in ending early? On the one hand, jorster seems scummy to me. On the other, if we force a roleclaim with this much time left, we're looking at three roleclaims D-1, or two and a no-lynch. I think if we arn't willing to lynch quickly, we should temporarily back off, but I'm not sure. Is this a good idea? Discuss, if you please. I mention this because of what happened the last day of last game, where a bunch of townies ended up claiming at once. I think we should avoid that if possible.

Forcing a roleclaim on me is just voting until I post my role? I'm not fully familiar with this yet.

So I have 5 votes against me, Thomas with no reasoning whatsoever. Thomas please explain.

Are you going to defend yourself if I take the time to post reasons?

Okay so you are really adamant that shos is town-aligned; you must have more information than the average town-aligned player (scum have more info). You attacked jellsprout because he attacked shos. If you truly believe that jellsprout is scum, is it a good idea to just let him off because people don't agree with you? You gave up on that and suddenly soccerboy13542 apparently became your top suspect and you voted him. You did this to save yourself. You are using your vote in a reckless manner.

Jorsters first posts were even more nothingish than now, bad or no reasoning. Just because he was aggressive earlier on (He's actually been much less aggressive I feel) does not mean he is mafia. In fact the mafia are more likely to be not that active, and definitely not that aggressive. And you are the master of assumptions.

You can't just assume that though. I agree it is most likely Shos is town, but you can't just assume that as of it's a fact.

I feel pretty much all your posts are paraphrasing stuff already said.

Do you really think we can be sure enough N1? Do you really want to risk killing the cop or the doctor?

But you seem to be forgetting, until then he's a hinderence. We need more votes to lynch effectively.

You do realise Shavey is scummy for two reasons which you also are? Both of you tend to just paraphrase, and do this 'active lurking', you post, but don't really contribute.

But when it's the only thing, it less of an example since it's your only one. This is the paraphrasing again. (Or 'sheeping' as Shos called it)

You're just trying to save yourself now, you were picking up votes so you give up on who you thought was scummy, and vote the only other person who could get lynched with no reasoning. Very scummy IMO.

Once and very briefly. Also for the same reasons as everyone else is a scummy thing to say, it's the easy excuse for a bandwagon vote.

This makes you seem even more scummy! You basically just admitted you had no reasoning and did it to try and save yourself!

Unvote
Vote: Jorster

Wow. I can't believe you voted soccer and then unvoted him, Jorster. You look so scummy right now. I would vote you but if your town, which I highly doubt you are, I'll look very scummy because I'll have been the one to finish you off. FoS: Jorster

I'll be happy to vote him because IMO is is by far the most scummy.

Unvote

I think L-1 is too risky for this stage of the day. I'm still not sold on the idea that Jorster is Town, but I don't think we want him lynched by accident.

You do realise that someone has to vote him off. I voted of Jazz in the last game because he was being a troll even though I didn't really have a clue what he was (other than annoying). Being afraid of looking scummy like this is pretty cowardly which could suggest you are scum. The town should have the least to fear if they have nothing to hide so it's like being afraid of being accused.

@Shos: I think your being very high and mighty considering quite a few people didn't notice your reveal of not being useless.

@quirvy: one mustn't tell his role until they actually need to. itis not pro-town to claim everything, you know. so the evolution of my claim went along as you guys kept pushing more and more. Also, at the start, when Isa practically claimed me stump for D1 at least, I actually thought I could get along wiith that just right, since mafia won't lynch me, and then I'll survive, and when I *can* vote, nobody will know, so that in case of a mafiateam counting on the fact that I can't vote to force a nolynch or somethng, VOILA!! me has votes! and mafia is all exposed etc etc.

@Jorster: Your actions really do shout scum. if I could vote, I'd ask for a claim if you were in L-1.

@Shavey - that was a bad post as well. it's not your first game, and you know how these things work. as a start, you said that you'd vote but you don't want to be the hammer? that's 100% distancing from a buddy without bussing from the book.(Quirvy - bussing is to vote your scumpartner). and you didn't even ask for a claim?

Shavey&Jorster&Jell team game ovah

I dont understand the point. there was practically one thing to talk about in this game so far; if you actually read the thread, there's no reason for you not to remember such a valuable detail.

Whatever. I give up.

We've got about 6 days left, I find it suspicious that Yuggy brought it to L-1, where anyone could have just ended the day then and there.

Yeah, I was a little nervous because I thought somebody might lynch Jorster when I was sleeping.  He's obviously the best choice right now, but we shouldn't rush it. I was scrolling down to unvote when I saw Yuggy vote until I saw Harumbai unvoted. It is bad that Yuggy just carelessly put L-1 on him, but there's not much I can say due to him putting a hefty amount of evidence in his post.

Roleclaiming is pretty much a no-no from D1 if I recall, so how should we double-check to see if he deserves to be lynched? I really doubt he has any astounding defense. (I guess we can make him role claim if we really need to, but like Snipereborn said, that'd probably be bad for the town).

why suspicious? it would be suspicious if there was a quickhammer, but bringing to L-1 is not bad~

when he's at L-1, then someone who has intent to hammer should ask for a claim. then, after the claim, it's up for us to decide if we lynch or not.

So I guess it's bad that Shavey didn't ask him to claim then.

If the mafia decided to hammer then it is too late to stop them. They may not have a good reason but it is still risky. Especially so if like in this case Yuggy did not state that it was L-1 so someone could have lynched without realising.

We have inexperienced players, and it's very possible that someone could foolishly be like "yeah! Vote: " and end the day right then. I know that in the game I played a year ago, bmwsu got lynched way before the deadline, and CSD was not very pleased because it happened so fast that he didn't have a chance to prevent it from happening

if mafia hammer it so quickly and without notice, they're 90% likely to get lynched for doing so.

Inexperienced players might not think about that, though.