Everyone here except Jorster has played at least once before...

He was in the first game.

I don't remember anything about it though, and as I recall I was lynched first day

As you might be this time...

Ok then, so does Jorster roleclaim now?

Lol, don't make it up like what I did last time. Geez, that was a horrible claim.      

only at L-1 when there's someoone with intent to hammer. currently he's at L-2. so no.
that is a bad post. a really bad post imo.

have I suspected you before?

When I am at L-1 how would I go about roleclaiming?

if you are in L-1, and there's someone who says they have intent to hammer, you claim. nothing simpler than that.

Yes, but do I say my role, or do I say my role and its special stuff, or do I say my alignment and role etc?

Well, if you're being forced to claim, your alignment SHOULD be a no brainer . An RC usually involves saying the name of your role, and what it does, while keeping in mind you can't repeat your PM word for word.  Asking these sort of questions about RCing isn't really helping your situation, I hope you realize...

You're rules are way too black and white. If I recall you have role claimed and you weren't at L-1. The only reason jorster is not at L-1 anymore is because I unvoted and I get the feeling that unless he starts sounding less shifty then at some point he will have to claim and I don't think one vote makes too much difference to his position in the eyes of the voters.  

Lol, shos, that was supposed to be a casual nod to my horrible play last time.

I want to see Jorater role claim. Couldn't he just do it now if we ask for it?

Why do you want him to claim? Do you think it will help? What are the pros and cons of him claiming at this stage?

I'm pretty sure he's scum and will have to fake claim. I'm interested to see what he will come up with. Also of he claims and it's obviously fake it will make me sure he's scum not just pretty sure.

Soccerboy, you still haven't responded to this:



I would like to know your reasoning behind this statement. Why is it scummy to hunt for scum?


If we want Jorster to role claim, we should force him to do so as soon as possible. The more we talk about this, the more time we give him to come up with a reasonable role to claim. So either he claims now, or he doesn't claim at all.
The main question to consider here is what use would it do? What role could Jorster possibly claim to avoid the lynch? And if his roleclaim does manage to proof his Towniness without any shred of doubt, won't that just help the Mafia more? They will then know that Jorster is either very powerful and will NK him immediately before he gets the chance to use this role, or they will know he is completely useless and can focus their attention on the other Townies. I think Jorster shouldn't role claim right now and instead try to proof his innocence in some other way. Only when the day is ending and his lynch is certain, then Jorster should role claim as a last defense.

But until that time we should also focus on the other members of the Mafia. Even if Jorster turns out to be Mafia, there are still two others. It is also possible that there is an Independent. So who could they be?
-Soccerboy seems Town to me, but his quote at the beginning of this post is still very odd to me. So I really want him to clarify this and I hope I can draw a conclusion from that.
-Shavey Dave still plays very impulsively. His actions aren't thought through really well. This could just be Shavey Dave playing like he always plays, but it is still somewhat scummy.
-Yaya doesn't vote. At all. Even if he suspects a person of being scum and that person has barely any votes yet, he still gives a FoS instead of vote. Why do you refuse to vote?
-Why did Shos bring up the role claim?

Why does it matter if Jorster is in L-1 or L-2 for him to role claim? Why can't you ask for a claim if you can't vote? If you suspect that Jorster is scum and that a role claim will help to either clear him or seal his fate, why wouldn't you role claim?
-Harumbai removed his vote when Jorster was a L-1. I understand that there would be a high risk of a premature lynch, but why even bother to vote if you don't want a lynch? You are just telling him that your votes don't matter, no matter if he tries to clear himself or not, you will still prevent the lynch any way you can. In my opinion, you should never vote if you don't to risk a lynch. Only exception is the Random Voting Stage. Also, look at the people who hadn't voted at that point. Quirvy would never do something as stupid as a premature lynch unless he had a very good reason to. Yaya doesn't vote. Shos can't vote. Shavey already said he doesn't want to be the one to hammer Jorster. That only leaves Soccerboy as potential voter, but I think Soccerboy is smart enough not to hammer Jorster at this point. So I think it was reasonably safe to let Jorster sweat for a little longer and hope that either he (or his scum buddies, if he has them) would let something slip.

Remember people, the reason we don't want an early lynch isn't just because we want to make sure the lynchee isn't town. It is primarily so we can get more information on everyone else in the game. So if you are all just going to focus on Jorster for the entire day, we may as well finish it now. We won't gain any more information that way.

And Jorster, at this point the best way to safe yourself is by finding someone who is even more scummy than you. Find a scum and convince everyone that it would be a better idea to lynch him instead of you. But don't role claim unless you have no other option to safe yourself. If you are Town, it will just help the scum. If you are scum, it won't do you any good anyway.

I haven't!

Jorster replaced you because you were so in - active.

I prefer to play with FoSs like this if there's no clear choice for lynching. It allows me to funnel my suspicions and eventually pick one. When I FoS'd Soccerboy, and Jorster, I didn't really find one more suspicious than the other, so an FoS was perfect. And it's easier than changing my vote everyday when someone new starts acting scummy.

I was a bit hesitant to vote after I voted for Jazz and Isa never counted it, even after I mentioned it again. I doubled checked that I was able to vote (no worries, I can). And by the time that was over, we kinda slid into the period of no clear scum for a while until Soccerboy/Jorster period. I'll probably start voting more often once the pool of players goes down, because the scum-hunting efforts will be more concentrated.

I was on holiday! it wasn't my choice!

Either way, you really shouldn't be posting on this thread any more.

have I claimed? really? where?

last time I checked, the mod claimed for me, and I only gave you the official name of the role, and that too, is not my full role, remember?

of course the reason he's not at L-1 anymore is you unvoted, that's captain obvious's line. one vote makes VERY much difference if it's the difference between L-2 and L-1, or L-1 and a hammer, of course.

when a person is at L-1, and there is ANOTHER person willing to vote, then instead of instahammer, you ask for a claim. then the lynchee claims, and game continues with that info that might or might not be correct, and that one may be lynched, or not.

@Jellsprout: i don't really think that what i said was correct anymore.
i guess i was thinking that a respected mafia member would be able to build a wagon pretty easily to beat the town.



only one of the three options involved your alignment...
i feel like your hiding something or at least want to hide something.

i read day 3.5. you act sort of like bmwsu on day 1.
you threw out a few wild accusations, then when no one followed along, you just went with the wagon.
since you took a break during that time, you couldn't have learned from his mistake.

for this: Vote: Jorster

you have 1 more vote until you're lynched.

eeh Isa, I just noticed my post above here got screwed with the quotes. can you kindly fix them for me? lol