only thomas did that I think, like, evar. maybe isa too somewhen.


you're very much welcome


*sigh*
+1

firstly, you never called me out on it, secondly, *it* does not really exist(or did, lol). and BWs are some way to start a game, lol. in the game I'm currently playing that's how we started, I was in L-1 twice in a 13 player game by page 2 of the game lol..

anyway, having reread the last two pages(gee thanks jell) I noticed how I also previously linked soccerbawy and yaya as scum, and now soccer comes to defend him!

I have bought a new computer Thomas, I just haven't had the time to install it or whatever.

You claim that me and soccerboy are mafia for different reasons. From what I can tell, you pounced on SB because of his joking coin flip post. Do you really think he'll base his entire case off of a coin? That's what is called the random voting stage. And me for being inactive, which I don't agree with obviously. So you've pinned us as scum for pretty weak reasons, IMO. If you label us as scum (only you have claimed both of us, keep in mind), are we automatically not allowed to defend eachother? If one of us were at L-1, it be stupid to defend the other because that's automatic association, but this is just common sense defense. I'm not defending him because we're both scum, I'm defending him because I think there's reasonable things that make him look not guilty. I think you're being too eager to get this over with using a weak offense. you never even responded to my last post besides "linking" me/SB.

FoS: Shos

@Yaya
My only problem with your analysis is that I wouldn't defend anyone this early in the game, no mater how stupid the reasons against them are. We don't know anything yet, so it's better to let people deal with their own attackers. Soccer is as likely as anyone to be scum, and your defense deprives him of a chance to screw up.
Also, if a lot of people start a wagon for stupid reasons, maybe that tells us something about them. I don't think three votes is too much to worry about, it's when you start getting much higher that something super fishy is happening.
@Soccer
Are you and Yaya involved in a huge conspiracy designed by haily to destroy the Interguild for all us hard-working Interguildians? Do you hate babies and cute cuddly creatures? If there was a big red button in front of you that was labeled "Press for Evilness", how many times would you press it?

I'm in Devon right now. Chances are I won't hav much time to post but I'll try and follow. Then again I might have tons of free time.

FoS: Harumbai Post please.

Well, I have internet after all.

I don't know about Yaya, or why he defended soccer. Let people defend themselves. I will leave my vote as he is the most scummy player right now IMO.

I will make some more detailed posts later

I agree with jellsprout in that the shos' vote made following jell calling him out on not yet voting was questionable. And his claims of not being called out on it are silly considering that the post directly before him making the vote in question was jellsprout calling him out on it.

This I'm inclined to disagree with. If Thomas was town, he would be focusing more on correcting his behavior, after all of the criticism that he took last time. If he was mafia, he would want to act like his normal self, so he would continue to act aggressively and just try to not be to go overboard with it. And he's sticking to what he's done in the past from what I remember; making vague accusations/reads without listing any evidence to back them up, thinking that this will somehow affect anything.

Thomas thinks I'm slight scum, but for no apparent reason. Well, no need for me to get defensive about anything in that case, since there's nothing to get defensive about.
He thinks that soccerboy is scum, but for no apparent reason. Well, that's nice, but saying he hasn't provided any reasoning behind it, so my stance on soccerboy is completely unchanged.

So:
Effect it has on the people you're accusing: Nothing.
Effect on people off to the side: Nothing

I honestly don't get what the point in making scum reads without providing background explanations is. At best, you make the guy you're accusing be a little bit more careful in the future. And that's not really even a good thing, you want them to sloppily defend their actions, instead of quietly looking back upon them, and trying to correct bad behaviors.


Also, CONTRIBUTE JAZZ.

Oh please, you haven't said anything important yet today. Just because I haven't come on to say I won't coming on for a while doesn't mean that I have done less towards the game. Being 5 o'clock in the morning this will be a short post.

I completely understand what you are saying, but I just associate this the other way around. If you are a mafia you want to be especially careful. Thomas often gets lynched early just for being annoying so I would have expected that if he were part of the mafia he might make a little more effort to be liked. If there is a player you really like then I find you are often inclined not to vote for them which is why sometimes I am suspicious of them. The people with better arguments and longer posts just tend to seem more legitimate as players and this means they are sometimes overlooked (in my eye) as scum candidates. Thomas isn't that person and I might've thought that if he were a scum player he would try to be more likeable.

Having read your post though I can see that it goes both ways and this is quite an assumption to make based on his behaviour, butt there still isn't much to go on. Whilst we do need to find someone to lynch today the slips and evidence tends to come on later days when there is some ability evidence and some "Why are they dead?" evidence (although that is also pretty circumstantial).

At the moment I am getting a town read on you Quirvy as you seem to be acting in the best interests of the town and partially because of that liked players thing since you structure your posts in a way that is nice to read and makes sense. I'm getting a scum read on Shavey, not just because he is being a hypocrite, but also because he has a presence which doesn't present his view on anything. Until he says something worthwhile I think it is he that needs to post.

Ok, ok.

Un - FoS: Harumbai

I'm getting scum read on shos, as my vote on him says. I agree with Yaya as in the fact he seems in a awful hurry to 'get this over with'. I have not played as mafia but have played as the independent. Of course shos is a better player than me but I can see some of what I did in his actions. I was in a hurry for the first lynch. Again I jumped on every wagon I could whereas he is only reflecting my previous actions in a suttle way. Therefore IMO shos is the one to vote for. What are your thoughts on shos people?

Vote Count 1.4
Yaya (2) - Yuggy, Snipereborn
Thomas (1) - rocket guy2
Jazz (1) - Thomas
Snipereborn (1) - Jazz
Yuggy (1) - Harumbai
No Lynch (1) - Quirvy

Not voting (5) - soccerboy13542, Yaya, Shos, Shavey Dave, Jellsprout

With 12 alive, it's 7 to achieve a lynch.
Deadline is at June 14, 06:00 Interguild Standard Time.

Also, use FoS how much you want, but I won't track them. Just an FYI.

MOD ERROR: The votes cast on Shos by Jellsprout and Shavey Dave should not have been counted in the official vote count, and the vote cast on Yaya by Shos should not have been counted either.

Updating all prior vote counts to reflect this fact.

Sorry, everyone.

May I ask why?

FoS: Yaya
FoS: Thomas
FoS: rockey guy2
FoS: spipereborn
FoS: shos
FoS: Yuggy
FoS: Jellsprout
FoS: Shavey Dave
FoS: Harumbai
FoS: No Lynch
FoS: soccerboy13542
FoS: Jazz
FoS: Quirvy
Unvote

There. Covered all of the bases.

I don't think I've seen rocket guy2 since page 1, and he hasn't been online since noon, Thursday. If only we could ever have a game where everyone was active...

Wait, yeah, why don't those votes get cast? Shos clearly voted for Yaya, and I didn't see him unvote anywhere. Same for Shavey and Jellsprout's votes. Explanation?

I voted for Jazz if I recall (it wasn't counted). I'm also partially protecting SB because if I disprove there's a connection between us, it weakens both cases against us.

Yaya and I are involved in the WWII Turtle Conspiracy. Our goal is to jump on top of ALL THE KOOPAS. In fact, I love babies, but I do not think i should speak for yaya. i know for a fact from my countless hours of watching movies that the big red button is never a good button to press, so i would press it -2 times.

inb4 "scumslip" said by thomas



This was in a very lengthy post. I find this very hypocritical.
Not really enough to try to kill you but still.
FoS: Harumbai

Do I have to vote again? If so, Vote: shos

Shavey, whether or not your arguments are valid or not you've made two posts that make me unable to take you seriously about that....





so are you saying that he is mafia or independent?

Probably mafia. Either way he isn't town. Therefore, we need to get rid of him.

I'm going to wait how this ends up. This is a very odd situation.

I agree. I'm still sort of confused on what shavey means but at the same time, maybe shos is scum?
idk what to think of this.

I thought my reasoning was rather simple...

ohhh only now I see what you meant about jell's post, lol. that is raelly not quite a prod on jell's end~ me not voting does not have any secret meanings.

meh i'll keep reading later there's Sherlock

Well, s-o-r-r-y Quirvy, I was busy...

Anyways, I know that I might seem suspicious because I have been either lurking or just not on...
Unvote:Sniper
FoS: Shavey
Like me, he's not posting much, and he's contributing as much as I am (i.e. not enough). Accusing someone of being inactive when you're inactive yourself seems to be... kinda hypocritical.
Ok, I have to admit that was some pretty crappy reasoning but it's the best I can do for now, I won't have time for a while because of some... life problems...