Alright then. I have just given my views on everyone a few days ago. Could you also make a list of every player still in the game and say what you suspect they are?

Trying to rally a wagon for Yaya at this stage isn't helping anyone.

I'll do that in the near future. You must push people like Yuggy and soccerboy13542 to do this though because they won't give any info at all.

But why do you think that, Shos? Why are you so dead sure Jorster is town and Harumbai is scum?

Vote Count 2.5
Yaya (2) - Shos, Thomas
Harumbai (1) - Yaya
Quirvy (1) - Jellsprout

Not voting (6) - Harumbai, Quirvy, Shavey Dave, Soccerboy13542, Yuggy, Jorster

With 10 alive, it's 6 to achieve a lynch.
Deadline is at June 30, 06:00 AM Interguild Standard Time.

well obviously I'm not 100% sure. I think that Jorster is town because the wagon on him jumped on very very quickly and for reasons that are very similar to what Yaya is accused of, in a way. Yaya's wagon is just...not growing. this means scum aren't voting, where in jorster the wagon piled up like fire. I really don't know how we managed to remove the lynch from him and lynch scum instead, frankly.

about harumbai - we'll deal with that when time comes.

As I recall Isa, I unvoted. Whoops. Fixed. /mod
Also, Shos logic makes sense, as it is all true. I'm going to go with Shos, and Vote: Yaya

Shos, have you considered it may be my wagon isn't growing because either

A.people have learned from Jorster's wagon
B.nobody is here to vote
C.people believe I'm innocent

Just food for thought.

A wagon built on jorster mostly because he once he got himself into a hole, he kept on making it deeper by not providing good arguments. Yaya, despite still being suspicious looking, has defended himself pretty well, so people aren't as willing to just blindly go after him.

Additionally, the mafia doesn't have Jazz, who would be pulling for a mislynch, and we don't have sniper, who would be involved in voting for people at such a stage. So I'm not sure how much it means that there isn't a bandwagon growing on Yaya like there was on Jorster.

If you want people to join your bandwagon, perhaps you should consider acknowledging Yaya's defense. It makes your argument for lynching him look stronger if you make Yaya's defense look weak. But instead, you just did this (again):

yaya's best defense was 'oh I did not mean for him to claim'. if he is sincere, that's for us to decide.

about yaya's three points:

a) Jorster's wagon did not happen. there really was nothing to be learnt, except 'do not ask for a claim if you do not intend to hammer'.
b) people *do* post in other topics
c) well then say so.

???

And also in sorta response for B., for the last few days, 4 of 10 players have been pretty much inactive (Shavey, Yuggy, Harumbai, Soccerboy). Some of them have posted 1-2 times, but nothing that's moving the game along. They can't all obviously be scum trying to hold up a lynch on me or whatever.

And you and Thomas don't look innocent either for trying to shove a quick wagon on me without many 2nd thoughts (I'm aware Thomas is making some players-thoughts post in the near future). I'd probably say Thomas is more likely town than you, since his behavior hasn't been consistently this crass for the whole game. The way you approach every case, whether you're right or wrong has made you look  pretty bad because of how you've handled it. I can't even say that you've handled them "like a scum" as the best description, but more like "unprofessionally". Yeah, I know this mafia game is taking place on a site about a treasure collecting squirrel mostly populated with under-age members, but in-depth arguments go a long way.

rephrasing self:
'jorster's wagon did not make a lynch'.

and I am not saying that everyone not voting is scum, I'm saying that the wagon doesn't build quickly. for example, I'm sure thatshavey, regardless of alignment, wants to be in a group of voters, and not initiate a lynch on his own. so if there were 4 or 5 votes already, maybe he'll add another. but now with 2, I'd guess he wouldn't.

thomas' innocence is correct in a completely independent way. about me - what do you mean handle it professionally? as town, you really can't do anything if you have nothing to work with. so far, the activity level in this game is so bad that my dog could probably type a better game faster. with nobody talking here at all, we have absolutely nothing to do. it's like getting back to RVS, just that people like quirvy and jell keep complaining about how I don't post walls about everyone.

if people seem so adamant about you being town, fine; let's NOT lynch yaya. who DO you want to lynch? I think Saddam Hussain was already lynched?

Mod: Prod soccerboy13542 please.

Also Harumbai will be due for a prod in about 7 hours.

Right now, I'd still prefer Harumbai. To me, his defence of his Day 1 actions seemed kinda weak, and he's been inactive this week. I don't want to inactivity lynch, but I think Harumbai was suspicious before he went inactive, so that makes it better to me. I mean, I imagine he's been inactive for legitimate reasons, but his behavior before so doesn't help him.

I'm curious whether you have outed suspicions against harumbai earlier, or you're just saying this to me since you know I suspect harumbai as well. I can't be bothered to check, if you or anyone else can do so I'll be glad

What if he didn't out suspicions earlier, but he's also not just saying that to you because you suspect Harumbai?

Soccerboy has sent me a PM explaining that he'll be in Europe for two weeks. I've said that if he can find WiFi and post every (other) day or so, he's fine - but if he goes too long without posting (say, Thursday) I'm replacing him if I can find a replacement.
Soccerboy is aware of this - we had a pretty lengthy discussion about it.

if he didn't post about it earlier, then it is suspicious, doesn't matter if he did or didn't think that way.  

Can I hear Shos suspicions of me? I'm sick of listening to Shos' grammar fail reasons and a picture saying band wagon so this better be good.

I'm sorry I haven't been on recently. I had my Chemistry exam this morning and I would have come on to tell you why I'd be away, but I thought I would have some time to post as well, but since I found out that I needed to study basically all the time I have not come on internet to do anything other than check Email and Facebook messages.

Also I'm trying to be more active today and I was coming on more often at the start of today. I don't have another exam for a while so I should be able to be on a little bit more in the next few days (real life).

Not much has progressed without me anyway it doesn't seem. I am not prepared to vote Yaya unless someone gives me some good reasons why.

For me Shos is still the most suspicious. I still think the grammar argument was weirdly aggressive and I don't like the fact that he lied about his role.  

Unvote, Vote: Yuggy

This guy is BSing his way through the day. Don't worry though, Yaya is still top suspect.

Ok what I find scummy about this exchange is that Yaya still pushes to know more even when Shavey has practically roleclaimed for two people, and it is only later after Shavey kinda roleclaims again/restates his role with a little more info where Yaya says "I wasn't asking you to roleclaim." He was almost pushing for as much info as he could get and then quickly trying to cover it up.
FoS: Yaya

Stupid school. I will post more later today, but then I've got another trip Thursday to Sunday >_< After that I'm pretty free again though.

I'm finding it quite suspicious that the moment Thomas mentions your name you come up.