Rocketguy was a Platform, i.e., a Vanilla Townie.

The goal of my vote against rocketguy was to draw attention to aych bee and Jorster if rocketguy was found to be town, or to show that they were town if he was found to be scum; rocketguy was pretty suspicious after all, despite him not being my top suspect. Rocketguy turned out to be town, which is why I now consider HB and Jorster to be even more suspicious, especially HB who was by a significant margin the most in support of lynching rocketguy during the first day. I was hoping that if Rocketguy turned out to be town, this would maximize the pressure put on HB and Jorster; and while my decision has obviously backfired towards me and it may have been better to be more patient, I am still hoping for pressure on HB and Jorster to be the end result.

Vote: aych bee

I understand that my actions have brought attention to myself, but I feel that considering rocketguy was just lynched and was a vanilla townie, that there should be far more suspicion towards the strongest supporter of lynching rocketguy, which would be HB.


Every post where you describe your suspicions of rocketguy, or in another way paint him negatively:
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Every post where you don't:
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You talked about how suspicious you are of rocketguy more often than you didn't. You can say that you weren't that strongly suspicious of him, but that's hardly consistent with your previous posts. I was very generous with coming up with this list, by the way, and put your posts that discussed rocketguy's scumminess without necessarily making him seem worse in the second list. If I hadn't done that, the ratio would be something along the lines of 14:3 instead of 11:6.




Fair point. I was definitely very rash, and my decision was not the best. I'll avoid taking such drastic action like this going forward.




Sort of. It's not just that I personally wouldn't have asked the question, it's also that the question was asked over such a normal statement, and in such a bizarrely accusatory way. It felt an attempt to artificially direct suspicion towards rocketguy. I get the idea behind putting pressure on rocketguy, but I can't see how his response to the question could have provided any useful information.




Huh? How? I said it was weird that HB thought rocketguy was suspicious, but then was willing to switch her vote to mymop, despite HB concluding that they couldn't both be scum. HB saying that decision would be based off of rocketguy's response doesn't change how suspicious it is for her to suddenly flip-flop as soon as mymop started getting close to five votes. However, I will concede that my point is made more obsolete by HB's readlist on page 6, where she states...

Unfortunately I failed to take in this part of her comment when making my post. This statement makes her considering to switch her vote to mymop much less suspicious to me. In fact, my reasoning for lynching rocketguy was similar, though obviously the outcome was more extreme.




...Is your argument that it's scummy to provide a justification for your actions? What are you even saying here?




Can you explain this further?




There are two attempts that stood out to me; point 2 in this post and her paragraph on Jorster in her readlist. In both instances, HB claims that she was sympathetic towards Jorster towards the beginning, but that she became more wary of him later. These are clearly attempts to distance herself from Jorster: HB wants the reader to understand that despite them taking similar actions, that she is suspicious of him and doesn't know his intentions. It seems paranoid, and I cannot think of a justification for behaving this way other than that they are both scum, and HB wants to prevent them being associated with each other.




Lol... Sure, my "entire case" against HB is based off of taking random sentences out of context if you completely ignore my first paragraph (funny from someone who accuses me of cherry-picking), and assume the context you provide changes anything (I already showed it doesn't). And my case against Jorster is "that he voted rg and also asked him a question" if, ironically, you remove the context I provide for my argument, which is how unreasonable the question was and how little evidence there was to justify a vote.




You're twisting my words here. There are plenty of other people who voted for rocketguy as well (lol). What caught my attention was the lack of a legitimate reason for suspicion early on when & before you and HB placed your votes, combined with the other points I stated.




Once again, atvelonis has managed to write a lot while adding nothing. The thing about allowing for more discussion was already brought up by Yimmy, and the point about the miller was already brought up by Jorster. I'm excited to see something from atvelonis that isn't just a regurgitation of statements made by others.




While I did feel a bit pressured to follow the opinion of others, my vote against rocketguy was primarily done for the reasons I already stated. If I wanted to take the go-with-the-flow approach, I would just take the atvelonis route and pretend to say things. This would be a pretty safe route for me as well considering how trusted Isa was already.




I was going to write a more detailed response, but shos locked the topic before I had the chance. And that was literally first Mafia post ever; I don't understand why pointing that out is unreasonable.




I said that much of what he mymop said was "filler." I also said that the subject matter of the filler was not inconsistent with his personality, but this wasn't me saying that he did nothing out of the ordinary. I still think that having so much filler is suspicious enough to justify "mildly scum," but I wanted to clarify that I wasn't really all that surprised by what the filler contained; simply that it was there at all.





These two are such blatant misinterpretations of my post that I feel like they are there only for misdirection. I had a lot of people down as "mildly scum" simply because I found them to be suspicious. And I never said anything about you being scum with mymop.




Firstly, you were considering doing just that, by your own admission. Second, even if most people trusted you, it would be a questionable decision to draw suspicion to yourself like that. I already thought that it was suspicious that you even considered switching your vote.



Also, some final other informative stuff:

When I replaced Isa, I took his role as the miller. I didn't feel the need to clarify this, because I assumed it was obvious.


Nope, I was just tossed in here. I generally take bolder actions when I'm new to a game, because I find that experimentation helps me learn them faster. I didn't feel emboldened by the fact that I took Isa's role, I think the pressure actually had the opposite effect.




I can't possibly know what Isa's motivations behind voting for mymop were. Soccerboy did suggest that Isa was drawing suspicion towards mymop as bait to see who would switch their vote, and though Isa did deny this, it could be that was his intention after all.




I'll remember this.



Let me know if there's something you feel I didn't address.