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Yimmy is banking on no one coming online.
are you kidding
do you seriously think i'd expect nobody to come online for the next 13 hours? do you seriously think stalling for 3 of those is going to change anything?
lying about situations outside the game is against the spirit of the game and im honestly a little insulted that you'd think id do that
(it was a church event about apologetics if you must know)
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Almost anyone at an "event" would be sending these messages using their phone. Yimmy, what device are you on that doesn't have autocorrect?
my phone lol
autocorrect on my sony phone is incredibly obtrusive and hard to deal with so i disabled it
Soccer: why didn't you crumb day one? since you did crumb d2, why did you crumb the result separately? the benefit of crumbing lies in people being able to know your results if you get killed without a chance to tell people them explicitly. the crumb in this case could never be noticed by anyone without you pointing it out, only benefiting the legitimacy of your claim, doing far less for the town
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Also, yimmy was the one to bring up the idea that there was likely a cop, but it would not be in the cop's best interest to do so AFAIK.
soccer expressed near-certainty that there was a cop (here)
i investigated soccer because he was the scummiest person who hadn't claimed to be a miller
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meaning that there is a roleblocker
note the certainty here. there are definitely other roles that can cause no result (jailkeeper comes to mind). even if he didn't know such roles exist i would expect far less certainty unless he actually knew there was a roleblocker (him or his scumbuddy)
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Sorry for my recent inactivity.
Soccer's hidden messages were really impressive and I feel dumb for not noticing them before he pointed them out. They lend credence to Soccer's claim, and now my opinion of Yimmy has flipped.
'Soccer' said:
On mymop's readlist:
I think your readlist is pretty fair. I am curious as to who you would believe to be next in line for scum out of HB/Jorster.
Based on recent events concerning Yimmy, I dunno if either HB or Jorster is scum at all; a Yimmy-Kro scum team is a possibility. Although your hidden messages have caused me to trust you, so I'm not as certain about Kro anymore. Something Kro recently said also sums up my thoughts precisely, which also leads me to trust him a bit more:
'Kro' said:
This does support that your cop claim isn't just a reaction to recent circumstances, such as HB and I asking the cop to investigate you. It seems more that yimmy is the one claiming to be cop in order to prevent himself from getting lynched. However, you could have always foreseen something like this happening and put the message there without actually being cop; this isn't proof.
Aside from that:
'Yimmy' said:
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Almost anyone at an "event" would be sending these messages using their phone. Yimmy, what device are you on that doesn't have autocorrect?
my phone lol
autocorrect on my sony phone is incredibly obtrusive and hard to deal with so i disabled it
I can sympathize with that— I haven't used autocorrect on my phone in years. However, I think this is a pretty weak justification.
Should we go ahead with a lynch? I'll check back here in a couple of hours (still 5.5 left until the deadline).
For the record, I never said anything about your event. I believe you in saying that you were unable to access the site.
I didn't crumb day one because I had originally thought that it fell under the rule of no encryptions. This, however, is not the case, and when I had come to that conclusion, Kro had already hammered RG and the day had ended, so I had no chance.
I crumbed the result separately because I was hoping that the 13542 order could be figured out. I tried to make this only noticeable at second glance, after it would become known that I am cop (whether it is through claim or if I flipped after getting killed). People would ideally look for clues, and the strange typos I made in that post would hopefully lead to someone picking up on it.
The problem with crumbing an important role is that if it is too obvious, then the mafia would know. So, I wanted to make it out of character (particularly the second post), enough so that people could look back at it and presumably figure it out. Thus, my goal was that no one would notice it UNTIL I claimed/flipped. In my opinion, the risk of mafia knowing that I was the cop greatly outweighed the information that town would receive from knowing that Jory had no result.
Would you prefer I say there is someone who blocks roles?
'mafiascum' said:
Because it is a combination Doctor and Roleblocker, Jailkeeper has a myriad of uses while not allowing broken combinations or exactly confirming anyone as Town or scum. Thus, it has risen to prominence as a very popular power role.
Your argument seems pretty contrived. You are correct in that I don't know what alignment it is, but I definitely did have my role blocked.
ninja'd
'yimmy' said:
nah the last time i tried to crumb (back on mafiascum) it was way too obvious and got me killed so i didnt want to risk it
exactly why i didn't want to make it too obvious
ninja'd again.
Nice work everyone!
'Livio' said:
You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
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Ok, nevermind that checking back in a couple of hours thing. I can't wait to see the result.
'Yimmy' said:
Soccer: why didn't you crumb day one? since you did crumb d2, why did you crumb the result separately? the benefit of crumbing lies in people being able to know your results if you get killed without a chance to tell people them explicitly. the crumb in this case could never be noticed by anyone without you pointing it out, only benefiting the legitimacy of your claim, doing far less for the town
One more thing: what exactly does it mean to "crumb"?
Mymop, what I will say is this: continue to think independently. When Yimmy flips, my role as cop will basically be confirmed, but that doesn't necessarily mean all my guesses are correct. My intuition on Kro is that he is town, but this is not related to my role. I cannot be certain of something unless I get it through inspection, so take everything with a grain of salt.
'mymop' said:
Soccer's hidden messages were really impressive and I feel dumb for not noticing them before he pointed them out.
As for this, don't worry about missing it. That was the point. I didn't want it to be obvious.
Breadcrumbing is essentially what I just did. Mine was admittedly not the best example, since it is slightly hard to figure out, but again, that's kind of the point, so eh.
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'yimmy' said:
for the record i hardly expected the claim to save me, just to fish out power roles
I'm not entirely sure why you decided to claim, but at least you got a pr outed from it I guess.
'Livio' said:
You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
As an aside in case anyone else is wondering, those two posts were the only ones where I laid down any messages. Unfortunately, I don't have that much information to share. Hopefully, I'll survive the night and be able to get you something
'Livio' said:
You know, I was thinking of getting an internship at Microsoft, but I'm not sure I want their lameness to rub off on me.
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Since Yimmy turned out to be scum, we can now say with a high degree of confidence that Soccer is the cop, and therefore that Jorster is also town. I'm personally of the opinion that Kro is town as well, which leaves the remaining member of the mafia team as either Aych Bee or Mymop. My current guess is that it's Mymop, but not on much evidence.
What reason could scum have for not lynching anyone tonight? Doesn't that make their chance of winning the game much harder? Perhaps they intend to draw out the game so that we become more suspicious of each other. It seems like a pretty bad move on their part, though. Maybe just a mistake?
'jellsprout' said:
As a kid I always thought tennisballs looked delicious and I liked biting them. I still remember the feel of the fuzz on my teeth and tongue.